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03-03-2005, 05:16 PM | #1 |
YT Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Louisville, Kentucky
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| AKC, CKC, Whats the difference? I am looking for a puppy, in my area there are alot of CKC registered. My Shelbie was AKC registered and someone told me not to buy CKC registered. I don't know what the difference is in how it is registered as long as it is a yorkie. Should I be careful or are they both fine? |
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03-03-2005, 05:17 PM | #2 |
Owned by Fred Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dallas, TX
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| I heard that you only need papers in general if you plan on breeding. So if you just keep him for a pet, I'm sure it won't matter if it was AKC or CKC. |
03-03-2005, 05:54 PM | #3 |
YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sardis TN
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| I have heard the same thing about "don't get a pup that is CKC Registered". But, IMHO, CKC is cheaper, less complicated, and being CKC Registered does not make the pup any less full-blooded. All of my dogs are CKC Registered and there are a lot of irresponsible AKC Breeders as there is CKC & other registries. That is just my take on the matter. Yorkease Last edited by Yorkease; 03-04-2005 at 05:31 PM. |
03-03-2005, 05:57 PM | #4 |
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| AKC has existed since the 1800's ACA is 20 years old CKC - not sure AKC has very strick standards and will not register a litter AKC if one parent is an ACA or a CKC. AKC will not accept ACA or a CKC registration. AKC tracks by pedigree ONLY. AKC has show quality standards. ACA will accept a picture and letter from the owner of the animal or written information from a vet (stating your dog is a purebed) a pedigree is not necessary, thus allowing a non-papered animal to become papered. ACA will accept AKC registration. ACA has no defined show quality standard. There is no past pedigree required.... CKC Dogs over 6 months of age which have no previous Registration history may be registered by providing 2 witness signatures attesting to the purebred status of the dog along with 3 photos (front,left and right) of the dog to confirm it is ‘of proper breed type’ no past pedigree required...no defined show quality standard.
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03-03-2005, 08:33 PM | #5 | |
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03-03-2005, 09:56 PM | #6 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Texas USA
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| I have always opted for AKC registered when looking for a dog, but recently I came across a tiny CKC I could not resist. So I paid full price , papers or not she was perfect. So little, like a kitten. Well, now I realize that some Yorkie owners out there never bothered to register with AKC and may end up with a litter down the line like where mine came from. So ther is no where else to go if you nevered registered the parents with AKC when you had the chance. You can't force the ownerer to do it after never bothering before. That is why my Mandy is CKC. Her father is AKC and her mother was never registerd AKC as a pup. So, CKC is better than nothing. And it don't really make a difference to me. Now that I understand. |
03-03-2005, 10:31 PM | #7 |
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| AKC assures the consumer the breed is a purebred where as CKC and ACA doesnt monitor the past of their reg'd dogs. The problem with buying a NON AKC dog is only assuring you that your dog is a purebred. The other reg'ing agencies will acccept a picture of a dog as gospel. That as a breeder is a scary prospect because there are so many dishonest breeders and just as many uneducated buyers that get taken advantage of. Its refreshing to see there are many people on this forum that are educated buyers because they are lovers of the breed but many buy on impulse and if someone calls it a yorkie its a yorkie even if it is 3/4's yorkie and a 1/4 party mix (rover). Buying AKC assures and protects the buyer "that puppy in the window" is a real Yorkie where as the other reg'ing agencies hope that the reg'ing party submitting the documents are true. Buying AKC in most cases is a more expensive venture but at least you know when your puppy purchase is all said and done ITS A YORKIE!
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03-03-2005, 11:02 PM | #8 |
YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Canada, mississauga
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| I got this information from an other sit. but in canada CKC = Canadian Kennel Club The Canadian Kennel Club or the Continental Kennel Club? Both use the abbreviation "CKC". The Canadian Kennel Club is very reputable, like AKC in the US. The Continental Kennel Club has only been in existence since 1991 and is one of the most well known puppy mill registries. Pedigrees may be falsified and if registration papers are supplied, they are typically through various organizations formed by puppy millers when the AKC's DNA requirements and inspection process (of kennels and records) made it impossible for them to continue registering their dogs with the AKC. Some of these "puppy mill registeries" include: APR (American Purebred Registry), APRI (America's Pet Registry, Inc.), CKC (Continental Kennel Club), UKC (Universal Kennel Club), ACA (American Canine Association). You should note that these registeries often have the same acronym as LEGITIMATE registeries such as the Canadian Kennel Club (CKC) and the United Kennel Club (UKC). |
03-04-2005, 04:15 AM | #9 |
Donating Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto
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| Lol NOW I understand my confusion. Here I was thinking my CKC registered puppy wasn't as "pure" as an AKC puppy. BUT I kept thinking "my Canadian Kennel Club registered yorkie is just as legit as the American Kennel Club yorkies. I'm surprised the had the gaul to use CKC, maybe to add to the confusion. I know the Canadian Kennel Club has been around much longer than the "other" CKC. |
03-04-2005, 04:29 AM | #10 |
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| Granted I believe AKC is a better club because it is much stricter and do make it harder for people to be dishonest. I know two of my CKC female yorkies parents where AKC eligible but where never registered with AKC, so now it would be difficult and expensive to get them AKC papered. AKC charges to register a litter plus charges for each puppy in the litter where CKC doesnt. So that is some of the reason why breeders went to ckc. If my dogs are AKC eligible I register them. As far as the puppy mill comment, I raise yorkies and some are ckc but I assure you I am not a puppy mill. Lets face it AKC may make it harder to falisfy information but Once someone has those papers, a dishonest breeder could do some creative paper work. 90% of the people who contact me for a puppy dont care, they just want a purebred yorkie to love in their home. SOme never register their dog period. So for those of you who own a ckc registered yorkie, your yorkie was probably registered with AKC at one time. Doesnt mean your dog is lesser, just the registry is less admired. Its really a shame there are so many dishonest breeders out there. |
03-04-2005, 06:58 AM | #11 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2005
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| To me... i don't care where my pups is register at.. they are pure breed and that is that. But in reading the AKC website..I come to the conclusion that AKC is just one big monopoly. Everyone else will accept AKC registered pups but they won't accept anyone else.?? come on... AKC is big because they have been around and have the money to be in the public's eye. That is the only difference. They can afford to hold shows. Best in show this and best in show that... if they are so perfect, why can't they allow an ACA or CKC or any other registry dog compete???? To me dog show is a sport and in any sport... you are NOT the best until you compete against everyone. You have the best yorkie AKC vs the best yorkie of other registry compete and you'll find it hard to judge as they all might be of the same caliber....cus they all are "pure breed". I think the reason why now alot of people register with CKC is because they work fast. I just recently register my yorkie (Hercules) with them and it take them a week to complete it. Where as I sent in the same time the registration of my other yorkies (Mercy and Sadie) it takes AKC almost two months to complete. All in all it boils down to how much you love your dog.... so it shouldn't matter if they are with AKC or CKC... |
03-04-2005, 07:04 AM | #12 |
YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sardis TN
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| BRAVO! Sexcbrucelee. I couldn't have said it better. Great choice of words and brutal honesty. I argree with you 100%!
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03-04-2005, 07:19 AM | #13 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2005
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| since i'm on a roll here... another thing that make me so mad is this.. I watch alot of AKC dog show.. and you know what?? they always seem to choose the same dog.. sure there is a great looking yorkie there and they seem to want to pick this cotton ball looking poodle instead. I mean the yorkie was just as comform to its stand plus the yorkie was glimming in the lights looking like it has been sent down from heaven... but NO the judge still go for that cotton ball..... errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!! make me so mad. |
03-04-2005, 07:23 AM | #14 |
BANNED! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois
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| Too funny! Its confirmed........everyone loves their yorkies! |
03-04-2005, 07:32 AM | #15 |
Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Mar 2005
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| yeah when they tell those handlers to run around the stupid ring... my wife and I had our fingers cross....hoping that that old lady would choose the yorkie... but NOPE...her eye glass must got fogged up or something as she chooses the white cotton poddle... I almost through the remote at the T.V..... errrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!! they yorkie didn't even make it top 3... |
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