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lovespandp · 07-04-2011, 04:03 PM

I feel so sorry for those two dogs. That poor pom has done nothing to deserve this, it honeslty sounds like you should start looking for a better home for Tikka as well. Obviously those dogs are not part of your family.

Rhetts_mama · 07-04-2011, 04:20 PM

Getting up off my hands...

In your first post you said it was either Pooter or Tikka that had to go, and it might as well be Pooter. Your reasoning for choosing to give up the Pom is questionable at best.
That sure makes it sound like you can't be bothered with two dogs, so I wonder why you even added a second to your life in the first place.

I agree with Woogie, taking ANY small breed dog into the woods is courting disaster.

Do the right thing and turn both dogs over to a reputable rescue who will put a real effort in to finding homes that can accommodate them for the rest of their lives. You owe both of them that much.

cowgirlc · 07-04-2011, 04:22 PM

You know I have to say this, there have been so many times things have come up or events have come up where I could not go because of my Gizmo. And every thing I do in my day to day life I have to think about how Gizmo fits in the situation or how long I will have to be away, or if I plan something I have to make plans that either include him or I have to make arrangements for him. My life litterally revolves around my baby, I could not even live in a place that would not accept him. I do for him before I do for myself or my husband, and that is because we as humans beings can do for ourselves Gizmo has to depend on me for everything. And I would not change a thing, people laugh, family laugh, or some just say with supprise...''what...you can't go because of you DOG''. They just don't understand that I chose to take in this little furball 5 yrs ago, and he is like my child. SO wether it be a new job, or new home or whatever, Gizmo is a part of my family and that is just the way it is.

I won't judge you because, there is always a back story and a reason for everything, I just hope and pray that you have a happy outcome for both dogs. One of the reasons I only have one yorkie is because, it is a huge responsibility to care for the one and I do not think I would want to care for 2, and Gizmo does not do well with other little dogs at this time, he tends to shy away. I do have 2 large dogs that are outdoor dogs mostly, and although I care for them as well they do not require the hands on attention the little one requires.

I hope one of the web sites that have been offered will be able to help you.

Good luck!!

Cynthia

Wylie's Mom · 07-04-2011, 04:48 PM

Private message me for help. I'm sure between all of us, we can find a solution that works best for Pooter. You need to put Pooter first, and instead of looking for money - let someone else use that money to fly this kiddo (via escort in a plane's cabin) to them. It's the right thing, and the only thing, you should do if you truly love this little baby.

There is a member here who flies puppies around the country for breeders.

Jinger · 07-04-2011, 05:16 PM

While I know you want help, and you want to find Pooter a new home, I'm still confused even after your explanation. I do wish you and your dogs the best, and hope and pray that the best solution possible for Pooter AND Tikka is found.
It seems there are many rescue options that members have found for you...did you find those as well or did you look for them? Have you contacted them, and have you had any luck?
Where did Pooter, and Tikka, stay when you were gone for 12-14 hour days for a week or two at a time as you described the previous situation?
Are their house/dog sitters who would be available to stay with both Pooter and Tikka while you are away for weeks at a time? That way they would have each other and it would help with their sadness. There are many unemployed people out there, I'm sure you could interview and find someone who would love that job and be good at it.
While Tikka sounds like an active and somewhat larger yorkie, I still do not have an easy time imagining that mountain life on hunts is any more appropriate for Tikka than Pooter--how could it possibly be as it sounds like it involves strangers, mountains, rough terrain, firearms, shooting and injured and dying animals?
If this was a child, perhap small or disabled in some way (heaven forbid) with a younger sibling, I can't imagine that you would only take the second child with you on vacations, to a new home, etc. because that first child didn't fit well with your new plans? Please try to remember that to Pooter and Tikka you ARE family and they trust you just as children would.
Many apartments allow two small dogs, and many men go to work without their wives going along, especially if it means they would have to get rid of a family member in order to join him.
It really does sound like there are options available to you that you're not considering strongly enough: 1) keeping both dogs and staying home to care for them, which in my opinion is your obligation with both pets and family, or 2) Consider keeping the two of them together and giving them both a chance at a homelife that is suitable, loving and forever, as difficult as I know that would be for you.
I will be anxious to hear about your decisions, and do hope for the very best.

Taryn0405 · 07-04-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

Getting up off my hands...

In your first post you said it was either Pooter or Tikka that had to go, and it might as well be Pooter. Your reasoning for choosing to give up the Pom is questionable at best.
That sure makes it sound like you can't be bothered with two dogs, so I wonder why you even added a second to your life in the first place.

I agree with Woogie, taking ANY small breed dog into the woods is courting disaster.

Do the right thing and turn both dogs over to a reputable rescue who will put a real effort in to finding homes that can accommodate them for the rest of their lives. You owe both of them that much.

Was wondering when you were going to get up off your hands!

Rhetts_mama · 07-04-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Taryn0405

Was wondering when you were going to get up off your hands!

LOL. Let me tell you, it was hard to do for so long!

capt_noonie · 07-04-2011, 07:41 PM

Both those dogs deserve much much better. So sad.

Taryn0405 · 07-04-2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sweet_tikka

...I don't want to make money off him,but for $150 here the spca will give a dog to any home... they take the dog home on a "trial" and after 3 days if they like him they can keep him. They dont do extensive interviews or home visits. The conditions at the only rescue here in town aren't the best either, over crowded and not enough funds, living in kennels being fed ol' roy and not getting daily attention because the lack the money to pay for workers and volunteers are few and far. Of course I'd give him for free if I find the right home where I think he'd be perfectly off.

...She's been around gunshots, boats, horses, etc and she runs ALL day. Pooter however tires after a 20 minute slow walk, he loves to sleep and lay at someone's feet and cuddle in bed...
...He's slept with me while my husband been gone, he's cuddled me to sleep when I've had a bad day/night, you don't think that makes me sad to think about...

I left him with a friend for a month while I went to Iowa, when I came back he barked at me for a good 5 or more minutes and even tried nipping me when I went to pick him up, he's NEVER done that... you think that made me feel like a good owner? Being gone and leaving him alone so long he almost forgot who I was?...

Okay, since Rhett's Momma perked up, to H-E-double hockey sticks with being P.C. The following above really stood out to me. Well, it all did but the above most. So, like you tackled the comments, I'll tackle yours.

First off, you stated in your post regarding the $150 for I believe what you said is not alot regarding all the training that you have spent on him? Am I right? Well it came off as you did all this work and a mere $150 is not enough to cover for your time and energy. I'm guessing you wanted it to come off as any bonehead could purchase a dog for $150 and basically treat him like crap, however that's not how it came off when you added the whole time you put into traing poor Pooter.

Second bolded statement, I don't know about dear Canada, eh, but here you literally have to go though basically interrigation to get a rescue/humane society dog. They ask you so many personal questions that I sometimes think adopting an Amiercan child would be easier. So, you've been given alot of rescues that aren't simply in "your town" that feed dogs basically better meals that I'm serving my husband and myself. Use those to your advantage...

Third bolded statement. Wow, this one kind of blows my mind. But, in attempt to be friendly, let me say that Gizmo alot of times can't handle a hot day walking around whatever town were in. But there's this awesome new invention called a pet tote, pet carrier, pet purse, etc. That basically let syou tote the small dog around safely so that he or she can come with you and not slow you and your busy lifestyle down....Heaven forbid a tired dog be an inconvience enough to be gotten rid of.

Last bolded statement, and I'll tell you the same thing that I tell my sister-in-law that's always trying to get rid of my brother's dog...Dog's aren't dumb. They know darn well if you're not connecting with them or willing to give them up. The poor thing has been bounced around from place you place and you wonder why he has trust issues? How could he possibly miss someone that's so willing to give him up? And he senes it, don't think he doesn't know that you'll drop him.

I don't mean to sound harsh, granted my sympathy gauge seems always to be broken, but regardless of your husband's job circumstances, I'm sure you knew what would happen long before poor Pooter, and possibly Tika, came into the picture.
Do what you need to do, but know that simply brushing dog off as an inconvience like you would flick away at a misquito is not going to be condonned here. Hopefully you'll use the websites that have been provided for the sake of Pooter, and for my blood pressure.

Have a flippin' fantastic night cuddling next to the dog that has kept you so much company while your husband has been gone and who you'll discard for being an inconvience.

jrsygal37 · 07-04-2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Barney's mom

Here is a site that might be able to help you find a home for your Pomeranian. I don't know anything about them, but you can check them out. I work with Silky Terrier Rescue groups and not Poms, but I'm sure they will find him/her a good home as most rescue groups have the fur babies lives in minds. Good luck.

— New Jersey Pomeranian Rescue — ADOPTIONS —*RescueMe.Org

I'm confused, is she in Canada or NJ? If she is in NJ or coming to NJ I have a wonderful friend who is looking for another Pom. She has three rescued Shelties and One rescued Pom. She loves the breed and is a retired Correction's Officer and home all the time. She lives by herself so her dogs are her company and her family. Let me know if I can help. I do home visits for rescues in our area and can assure you she'd be a great home. They are all vetted and groomed regularly. Elaine

jeane · 07-04-2011, 08:33 PM

i feel sorry for pooter/ hopefully he will find a family that will love and care for him like he deserves

gidget529 · 07-05-2011, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jrsygal37

I'm confused, is she in Canada or NJ? If she is in NJ or coming to NJ I have a wonderful friend who is looking for another Pom. She has three rescued Shelties and One rescued Pom. She loves the breed and is a retired Correction's Officer and home all the time. She lives by herself so her dogs are her company and her family. Let me know if I can help. I do home visits for rescues in our area and can assure you she'd be a great home. They are all vetted and groomed regularly. Elaine

I think Wylie's Mom offered to get in touch w a member who flies dogs for breeders. Maybe you three could get in touch to get the pup to your friend in NJ?

yorkietalkjilly · 07-05-2011, 08:22 AM

Oh, yes, PM Wylie's Mom and let a rescue happen for this little doggie. Sounds like that would be best for Pooter and even if you need to rehome your other one.

sweet_tikka · 07-05-2011, 04:13 PM

Thanks Whylie's mom, I will pm you if I need. If the person in NJ is seriously interested I will glady get something set up for them. I'm getting intouch with a place here in AB. And I've had a retired couple that has been searching for a pair of small breed dogs as companions as they just lost there other two in feb. they owned from birth. I'm going to visit their home and talk with them and let them meet both dogs. I told them if they set up for Tikka to be spayed that I would gladly give them both dogs for free if they could spay here and keep in touch so that they can still have eachother.

I'm not going to respond to anything else, rip into me all you want.
I'm 21, thought I had my life planned out and yes, it included both dogs. But I've had a few curve balls thrown and being young and not settled in I made a mistake of taking on a responsibility I only thought I could handle... and yes it's sad for the dogs, and even myself, but I'm also learning. I wont be owning dogs for awhile... not because I don't think I'm a good owner, or that I dont deserve them... like most of you probably think. But because I realize I can't handle the responsibility while my life is so crazy/chaotic.
WE ALL make mistakes and have to learn... how many of you have bought from backyard breeders... and you're telling me NONE of you have ever had to rehome a dog in your life... I find that VERY hard to believe.
I think it took more courage for me to admit I needed to rehome even one of them to start... who wants to rehome a dog they love so much? But it's what's BEST for the DOGS. Not myself.

Thanks for those who offered help, and I'm sorry for you feel the way you do for those who ripped into me. I'll be leaving YT today because of the way I've been treated. Will I join a YT hate site? No, because you guys were awesome to start, you are just passionate and openly opinionated... and that's something that's both helpful and hurtful.
So thanks everyone, have a great day.

TxVicki · 07-05-2011, 05:26 PM

[QUOTE=sweet_tikka;3587395]

WE ALL make mistakes and have to learn... how many of you have bought from backyard breeders... and you're telling me NONE of you have ever had to rehome a dog in your life... I find that VERY hard to believe.
I can honestly say I bought my 1st Yorkie from a Pet Store in 1988, way before I knew about puppymills.
I know my Lizzie came from BYB, but I have adopted 7 that no one wanted. NO, I have never, ever had to rehome a dog in my life and never will.

07-04-2011, 04:03 PM	#46
lovespandp ♥Momma's Bambino♥ Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Ca Posts: 10,026	I feel so sorry for those two dogs. That poor pom has done nothing to deserve this, it honeslty sounds like you should start looking for a better home for Tikka as well. Obviously those dogs are not part of your family. __________________ "People with nothing to hide don't usually feel the need to say so."

07-04-2011, 04:20 PM	#47
Rhetts_mama Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,959 Blog Entries: 1	Getting up off my hands... In your first post you said it was either Pooter or Tikka that had to go, and it might as well be Pooter. Your reasoning for choosing to give up the Pom is questionable at best. That sure makes it sound like you can't be bothered with two dogs, so I wonder why you even added a second to your life in the first place. I agree with Woogie, taking ANY small breed dog into the woods is courting disaster. Do the right thing and turn both dogs over to a reputable rescue who will put a real effort in to finding homes that can accommodate them for the rest of their lives. You owe both of them that much. __________________ Don't get your knickers in a knot. Nothing is solved and it just makes you walk funny. Last edited by Rhetts_mama; 07-04-2011 at 04:22 PM.

07-04-2011, 04:22 PM	#48
cowgirlc YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 258 Blog Entries: 1	You know I have to say this, there have been so many times things have come up or events have come up where I could not go because of my Gizmo. And every thing I do in my day to day life I have to think about how Gizmo fits in the situation or how long I will have to be away, or if I plan something I have to make plans that either include him or I have to make arrangements for him. My life litterally revolves around my baby, I could not even live in a place that would not accept him. I do for him before I do for myself or my husband, and that is because we as humans beings can do for ourselves Gizmo has to depend on me for everything. And I would not change a thing, people laugh, family laugh, or some just say with supprise...''what...you can't go because of you DOG''. They just don't understand that I chose to take in this little furball 5 yrs ago, and he is like my child. SO wether it be a new job, or new home or whatever, Gizmo is a part of my family and that is just the way it is. I won't judge you because, there is always a back story and a reason for everything, I just hope and pray that you have a happy outcome for both dogs. One of the reasons I only have one yorkie is because, it is a huge responsibility to care for the one and I do not think I would want to care for 2, and Gizmo does not do well with other little dogs at this time, he tends to shy away. I do have 2 large dogs that are outdoor dogs mostly, and although I care for them as well they do not require the hands on attention the little one requires. I hope one of the web sites that have been offered will be able to help you. Good luck!! Cynthia __________________ Cowgirlc & Gizmo...Inseperable........

07-04-2011, 04:48 PM	#49
Wylie's Mom Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 35,889 Blog Entries: 2	Private message me for help. I'm sure between all of us, we can find a solution that works best for Pooter. You need to put Pooter first, and instead of looking for money - let someone else use that money to fly this kiddo (via escort in a plane's cabin) to them. It's the right thing, and the only thing, you should do if you truly love this little baby. There is a member here who flies puppies around the country for breeders. __________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann \| Pfeiffer \| Marcel Verdel Purcell \| Wylie \| Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨°

07-04-2011, 05:16 PM	#50
Jinger Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 2,213	While I know you want help, and you want to find Pooter a new home, I'm still confused even after your explanation. I do wish you and your dogs the best, and hope and pray that the best solution possible for Pooter AND Tikka is found. It seems there are many rescue options that members have found for you...did you find those as well or did you look for them? Have you contacted them, and have you had any luck? Where did Pooter, and Tikka, stay when you were gone for 12-14 hour days for a week or two at a time as you described the previous situation? Are their house/dog sitters who would be available to stay with both Pooter and Tikka while you are away for weeks at a time? That way they would have each other and it would help with their sadness. There are many unemployed people out there, I'm sure you could interview and find someone who would love that job and be good at it. While Tikka sounds like an active and somewhat larger yorkie, I still do not have an easy time imagining that mountain life on hunts is any more appropriate for Tikka than Pooter--how could it possibly be as it sounds like it involves strangers, mountains, rough terrain, firearms, shooting and injured and dying animals? If this was a child, perhap small or disabled in some way (heaven forbid) with a younger sibling, I can't imagine that you would only take the second child with you on vacations, to a new home, etc. because that first child didn't fit well with your new plans? Please try to remember that to Pooter and Tikka you ARE family and they trust you just as children would. Many apartments allow two small dogs, and many men go to work without their wives going along, especially if it means they would have to get rid of a family member in order to join him. It really does sound like there are options available to you that you're not considering strongly enough: 1) keeping both dogs and staying home to care for them, which in my opinion is your obligation with both pets and family, or 2) Consider keeping the two of them together and giving them both a chance at a homelife that is suitable, loving and forever, as difficult as I know that would be for you. I will be anxious to hear about your decisions, and do hope for the very best. __________________ Jen and Zoe

07-04-2011, 07:41 PM	#53
capt_noonie www.yorkierescue.com Donating Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas & Orange County Posts: 17,408	Both those dogs deserve much much better. So sad. __________________ The T.U.B. Pack! Toto, Uni, & Bindi RIP Lord Scrappington Montgomery McLimpybottom aka El Lenguo the Handicapped Ninja 10-12-12

07-04-2011, 08:33 PM	#56
jeane Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: montana Posts: 2,945	i feel sorry for pooter/ hopefully he will find a family that will love and care for him like he deserves

07-05-2011, 08:22 AM	#58
yorkietalkjilly ♥ Love My Tibbe! ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: D/FW, Texas Posts: 22,140	Oh, yes, PM Wylie's Mom and let a rescue happen for this little doggie. Sounds like that would be best for Pooter and even if you need to rehome your other one. __________________ Jeanie and Tibbe One must do the best one can. You may get some marks for a very imperfect answer: you will certainly get none for leaving the question alone. C. S. Lewis

07-05-2011, 04:13 PM	#59
sweet_tikka YT Addict Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Peace River, Alberta Posts: 322 Blog Entries: 3	Thanks Whylie's mom, I will pm you if I need. If the person in NJ is seriously interested I will glady get something set up for them. I'm getting intouch with a place here in AB. And I've had a retired couple that has been searching for a pair of small breed dogs as companions as they just lost there other two in feb. they owned from birth. I'm going to visit their home and talk with them and let them meet both dogs. I told them if they set up for Tikka to be spayed that I would gladly give them both dogs for free if they could spay here and keep in touch so that they can still have eachother. I'm not going to respond to anything else, rip into me all you want. I'm 21, thought I had my life planned out and yes, it included both dogs. But I've had a few curve balls thrown and being young and not settled in I made a mistake of taking on a responsibility I only thought I could handle... and yes it's sad for the dogs, and even myself, but I'm also learning. I wont be owning dogs for awhile... not because I don't think I'm a good owner, or that I dont deserve them... like most of you probably think. But because I realize I can't handle the responsibility while my life is so crazy/chaotic. WE ALL make mistakes and have to learn... how many of you have bought from backyard breeders... and you're telling me NONE of you have ever had to rehome a dog in your life... I find that VERY hard to believe. I think it took more courage for me to admit I needed to rehome even one of them to start... who wants to rehome a dog they love so much? But it's what's BEST for the DOGS. Not myself. Thanks for those who offered help, and I'm sorry for you feel the way you do for those who ripped into me. I'll be leaving YT today because of the way I've been treated. Will I join a YT hate site? No, because you guys were awesome to start, you are just passionate and openly opinionated... and that's something that's both helpful and hurtful. So thanks everyone, have a great day. __________________ Tikka&Pooter Dogs>Other Humans. Any day.

07-05-2011, 05:26 PM	#60
TxVicki Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: At Home Posts: 8,386	[QUOTE=sweet_tikka;3587395] WE ALL make mistakes and have to learn... how many of you have bought from backyard breeders... and you're telling me NONE of you have ever had to rehome a dog in your life... I find that VERY hard to believe. I can honestly say I bought my 1st Yorkie from a Pet Store in 1988, way before I knew about puppymills. I know my Lizzie came from BYB, but I have adopted 7 that no one wanted. NO, I have never, ever had to rehome a dog in my life and never will. __________________ [SIZE="3"VICKI & ALLIE[/SIZE]