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mustangbee · 11-20-2005, 10:06 AM

Have you tried giving her puppy milk?
Also I heard Comfort Zone works for little puppies.
You can find it at PetsMart & PetCo.

chattiesmom · 11-20-2005, 10:09 AM

Amanda, I would take the pup to the vet asap for a professional appraisal...

In the mean time, keep the baby warm, and be sure she is geting nutrition and hydration and is eliminating.

I have used Goats milk --- it has helped save many animals on the farm, no dogs so far, but if I were in a pinch, I would try the goat's milk/pedylite first. Be very careful not to overload the baby or cause diahrreah, and then have yet another problem on your hands. As added insurance against hypoglocemia, try nutrical or if you don't have that put a drop or two of corn syrup on your baby's gums

Good luck and please keep us posted.

catnayl · 11-20-2005, 04:47 PM

hello I want to help you and your new puppy.I live in ar and I am traveling to knoxville on tues. to pick up my son from college for thanksgiving. Ihave yoshi my 5 mos old yorky and I hope you will contact me pm and maybe we could think of something to make everything better for everyone. cathy and yoshi

YorkieRose · 11-20-2005, 06:05 PM

Amanda when we talked by phone I agreed with you to take the pup at 6 weeks. I wasn't in agreement with the breeder, but the pup was in a bad situation IMO...if you didn't the breeder was selling to someone else. At least you know how to care for a new baby. When a breeder sells at 6 weeks there is no reasoning with them...they purely care about money and all the work they have to do with each day they keep them...plus, they get them out early before any health problems pop up...most things show up between 8 and 12 weeks.

Returning it to the breed to keep for a few weeks will not make it better unless the breeder spends time with the pup..the littermates are gone and the mother is no doubt back in the kennel.

I would tough it out. Get a baby sling and carry her around when you are home. Put her in a small pen with a heating pad (HIDE THE CORD) and a teddy when you are gone.
This is no different then bringing home a new human baby...I wondered why we had a baby..I thought my life was over..then in a month it was the best idea we ever had.
Call me if you want...we all understand and are here for you.

amanda350 · 11-20-2005, 06:30 PM

Well I am starting to calm down a little bit and it's kind of getting better.. Maddie is definately peeing and pooping cause I am always cleaning it up. My neighbor gave me some stuffed animal with that thing inside that you heat up and it keeps them warm.. I have been putting her in her crate with 2 stuffed animals, her bed and an alarm clock.. Just like I did Tucker...I called the breeder this morning and left a message with her daughter and she never called me back... Point Taken....Anyways, I guess I was thinking that since they kept one of her sisters then atleast she could have one of her littermates a little longer.. I have been giving her Nutrical and today she has actually been playing and eating well.. Actually, she will only eat out of Tuckers bowl so it is funny when he tries to eat also, she will keep scooting in front of him so he can't get any...He just looks at me like "see what you've done". She still cries when she goes in the crate but not as long and she will eventually stop after awhile..I was totally wrong for assuming that she would be easy since Tucker was.. Lesson learned.. As for her age, I am positive that she is 6wks because I picked her out at 3days old and they made it clear that she would be going in the paper at 6wks so every friday for 6wks I went and visited her and held her for a while..I called my vet back, by the way she has a clean bill of health.. I took her right after I got her before I got her home so there were no signs yet.. I called him back and he said that alot of runts have a harder time leaving their littermates and mother and that it may take her longer to adjust.. Believe it or not, it is so common for any breed of puppy to go to a new home at 6wks.. Maybe I should find a vet that specializes in small breeds..Anyways, all is calm for now here and my husband is being super sweet to her and very supportive of us hanging in there...Thank you everyone for your help and concern.. I realize that she was not the best breeder, but someone had to love Maddie....

megan_kat22 · 11-20-2005, 06:47 PM

oh, ive just read this whole thread, and im so glad things are getting better. keep us posted on lil maddies progress

YorkyKids · 11-20-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by amanda350

..Thank you everyone for your help and concern.. I realize that she was not the best breeder, but someone had to love Maddie....

Oh Amanda,
I've been waiting all day for an update! I'm so glad YOU have Maddie and YOU are willing to go the extra mile for her. You are correct in that someone had to love her. It's still makes me mad.....cause breeders know they can pull your heart strings.....i.e. "if your not here at 6 weeks I'm gonna sell her". That is just so sad. But probably Maddie is very lucky to have landed in your care!!

I'm sure she will settle in quite nicely now that you are getting the hang of it. <G> Each day Maddie will be better. With lots and lots of attention/socializion from you and your family....she should develop quite normally both mentally and physically. Good luck and please post updates on Maddie often.
D

Patti · 11-20-2005, 07:08 PM

I'm so glad to hear you are all doing better. Each day she is getting older and stronger and your love will pull her through.

txshopper73 · 11-20-2005, 07:12 PM

Thanks for the update! I've been following this thread all day. It's a real shame that the breeder let her go at such a young age. I know that larger breeds dogs leave around 6 weeks but these yorkies are so small...same with toy poodles, malts, etc. They really shouldn't leave before 8 weeks of age. Glad that she's doing much better. Keep us updated!

Gracy · 11-20-2005, 07:43 PM

6 weeks is to to early, she hasn't been properly socialized.
I place my pups at 9 -10 weeks. My new families never have a problem.
6 weeks they still need their mommy.

Since you have her now, it just will take time.
The only excuse to return a dog is health reasons.
One should understand that just because things are not working out at the time.
Does not mean for one to get rid of the animal.
She is younger than the other dog you had, so it will take longer to adjust.

YorkyMommy · 11-20-2005, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanda350

Well I am starting to calm down a little bit and it's kind of getting better.. ..I called my vet back, by the way she has a clean bill of health.. ..Anyways, all is calm for now here and my husband is being super sweet to her and very supportive of us hanging in there...Thank you everyone for your help and concern.. I realize that she was not the best breeder, but someone had to love Maddie....

Oh Amanda - I am so happy that things are calming down and working out. Good for you (and your hubby) for keeping Maddie where she will get the one on one that she really needs right now!
Take care and best of luck,
Tracy

vviccles · 11-20-2005, 08:38 PM

Hi! I Feel So Bad For You! Thank God Tucker Is Fine, But I Think The Breeder Is Irresponsible,she Never Should Have Pressured You, Honey!in My Old Rescue Days, I Remember Taking In A 5 Week Old Pup, I Wrapped A Clock In A Blankie,hels Her Close Alot. Have U Taken Her To The Vet Yet? When I Showed Years Ago & Did A Bit Of Breeding, I Did Not Let The Babies Go Till 112 Week, Occasionallyat 10 Weeks.have U Tried Bottle Feeding? Is She Eating On Her Own?please Keep Us Posted! Good Luck!

yorkieusa · 11-20-2005, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vviccles

Hi! I Feel So Bad For You! Thank God Tucker Is Fine, But I Think The Breeder Is Irresponsible,she Never Should Have Pressured You, Honey!in My Old Rescue Days, I Remember Taking In A 5 Week Old Pup, I Wrapped A Clock In A Blankie,hels Her Close Alot. Have U Taken Her To The Vet Yet? When I Showed Years Ago & Did A Bit Of Breeding, I Did Not Let The Babies Go Till 112 Week, Occasionallyat 10 Weeks.have U Tried Bottle Feeding? Is She Eating On Her Own?please Keep Us Posted! Good Luck!

She got a clean bill of health from the vet.

Amanda, I'm so glad things are slowing down. It's very true that no two are
alike, isn't it?

Poor lil Maddie! I'm so glad you've got her.

amanda350 · 11-21-2005, 04:42 AM

Thanks everyone!! I'm glad that things are getting better also.. I hate for her to be scared and lonely and we are all trying to help her adjust.. She is eating great and peeing and pooping fine..For a puppy that has never touched grass before, she sure like to use the bathroom on it.. She will usually go potty everytime we go outside..She keeps wanting to play with toys but Tucker won't share his. I never thought to buy her her own since he has so many and I am sure that he will take hers from her when she gets them.. Man he is really jealous...not in a mean way though... he started limping and yelping and holding his paw up and he ran to his chair.. I was holding Maddie and I put her down and ran over to him and he was holding his paw up in the air and just crying.. I picked him up to look at it and he laid his head on my chest and stopped crying.. When I felt of his leg he never cried so I set him down and he ran and got his favorite toy...What a faker!! Oh listen and then I'll go..... My husband has never been a dog lover but he is coming around since we got Maddie.. Well last night we were buying some christmas stuff at Walmart and he said that we needed to get Tucker and Maddie each a stocking with goodies in it.. I didn't even think this man knew that people actually got christmas gifts for dogs and so we went and looked at them and he said, nah I don't like those, we'll have to go to Petsmart and get them some good ones...What a softie!! lol!!

livingdustmops · 11-21-2005, 07:14 AM

I love happy endings.

11-20-2005, 10:06 AM	#16
mustangbee Donating YT 9000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: North Carolina :) Posts: 10,616	Have you tried giving her puppy milk? Also I heard Comfort Zone works for little puppies. You can find it at PetsMart & PetCo. __________________ Friends are God's way of apologizing for our relatives. "Love & Support Our YT Members" Gina & Princess Member of the SSLS

11-20-2005, 10:09 AM	#17
chattiesmom Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Alabama Posts: 17,674	Amanda, I would take the pup to the vet asap for a professional appraisal... In the mean time, keep the baby warm, and be sure she is geting nutrition and hydration and is eliminating. I have used Goats milk --- it has helped save many animals on the farm, no dogs so far, but if I were in a pinch, I would try the goat's milk/pedylite first. Be very careful not to overload the baby or cause diahrreah, and then have yet another problem on your hands. As added insurance against hypoglocemia, try nutrical or if you don't have that put a drop or two of corn syrup on your baby's gums Good luck and please keep us posted. __________________ Silk Step-In Harnesses www.foxypups.etsy.com

11-20-2005, 06:05 PM	#19
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	pup Amanda when we talked by phone I agreed with you to take the pup at 6 weeks. I wasn't in agreement with the breeder, but the pup was in a bad situation IMO...if you didn't the breeder was selling to someone else. At least you know how to care for a new baby. When a breeder sells at 6 weeks there is no reasoning with them...they purely care about money and all the work they have to do with each day they keep them...plus, they get them out early before any health problems pop up...most things show up between 8 and 12 weeks. Returning it to the breed to keep for a few weeks will not make it better unless the breeder spends time with the pup..the littermates are gone and the mother is no doubt back in the kennel. I would tough it out. Get a baby sling and carry her around when you are home. Put her in a small pen with a heating pad (HIDE THE CORD) and a teddy when you are gone. This is no different then bringing home a new human baby...I wondered why we had a baby..I thought my life was over..then in a month it was the best idea we ever had. Call me if you want...we all understand and are here for you. Last edited by YorkieRose; 11-20-2005 at 06:08 PM.

11-20-2005, 06:47 PM	#21
megan_kat22 I love my boys! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 1,913	oh, ive just read this whole thread, and im so glad things are getting better. keep us posted on lil maddies progress __________________ -Megan, Tucker & Tripp "My little dogs- heartbeats at my feet" www.dropshots.com/megan_kat22

11-20-2005, 07:12 PM	#24
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	Thanks for the update! I've been following this thread all day. It's a real shame that the breeder let her go at such a young age. I know that larger breeds dogs leave around 6 weeks but these yorkies are so small...same with toy poodles, malts, etc. They really shouldn't leave before 8 weeks of age. Glad that she's doing much better. Keep us updated! __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

11-20-2005, 04:47 PM	#18
catnayl Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEWPORT,AR Posts: 158	hello I want to help you and your new puppy.I live in ar and I am traveling to knoxville on tues. to pick up my son from college for thanksgiving. Ihave yoshi my 5 mos old yorky and I hope you will contact me pm and maybe we could think of something to make everything better for everyone. cathy and yoshi

11-20-2005, 06:30 PM	#20
amanda350 No Longer A Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 986	Well I am starting to calm down a little bit and it's kind of getting better.. Maddie is definately peeing and pooping cause I am always cleaning it up. My neighbor gave me some stuffed animal with that thing inside that you heat up and it keeps them warm.. I have been putting her in her crate with 2 stuffed animals, her bed and an alarm clock.. Just like I did Tucker...I called the breeder this morning and left a message with her daughter and she never called me back... Point Taken....Anyways, I guess I was thinking that since they kept one of her sisters then atleast she could have one of her littermates a little longer.. I have been giving her Nutrical and today she has actually been playing and eating well.. Actually, she will only eat out of Tuckers bowl so it is funny when he tries to eat also, she will keep scooting in front of him so he can't get any...He just looks at me like "see what you've done". She still cries when she goes in the crate but not as long and she will eventually stop after awhile..I was totally wrong for assuming that she would be easy since Tucker was.. Lesson learned.. As for her age, I am positive that she is 6wks because I picked her out at 3days old and they made it clear that she would be going in the paper at 6wks so every friday for 6wks I went and visited her and held her for a while..I called my vet back, by the way she has a clean bill of health.. I took her right after I got her before I got her home so there were no signs yet.. I called him back and he said that alot of runts have a harder time leaving their littermates and mother and that it may take her longer to adjust.. Believe it or not, it is so common for any breed of puppy to go to a new home at 6wks.. Maybe I should find a vet that specializes in small breeds..Anyways, all is calm for now here and my husband is being super sweet to her and very supportive of us hanging in there...Thank you everyone for your help and concern.. I realize that she was not the best breeder, but someone had to love Maddie....

11-20-2005, 07:08 PM	#23
Patti Donating YT 30K Club Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 35,509 Blog Entries: 6	I'm so glad to hear you are all doing better. Each day she is getting older and stronger and your love will pull her through.

11-20-2005, 07:43 PM	#25
Gracy YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: California Posts: 517	6 weeks is to to early, she hasn't been properly socialized. I place my pups at 9 -10 weeks. My new families never have a problem. 6 weeks they still need their mommy. Since you have her now, it just will take time. The only excuse to return a dog is health reasons. One should understand that just because things are not working out at the time. Does not mean for one to get rid of the animal. She is younger than the other dog you had, so it will take longer to adjust. __________________ Gracy, Yorkie Lover S Lulu Lily Woody

11-20-2005, 08:38 PM	#27
vviccles BANNED! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly,MA Posts: 148	Hi! I Feel So Bad For You! Thank God Tucker Is Fine, But I Think The Breeder Is Irresponsible,she Never Should Have Pressured You, Honey!in My Old Rescue Days, I Remember Taking In A 5 Week Old Pup, I Wrapped A Clock In A Blankie,hels Her Close Alot. Have U Taken Her To The Vet Yet? When I Showed Years Ago & Did A Bit Of Breeding, I Did Not Let The Babies Go Till 112 Week, Occasionallyat 10 Weeks.have U Tried Bottle Feeding? Is She Eating On Her Own?please Keep Us Posted! Good Luck!

11-21-2005, 04:42 AM	#29
amanda350 No Longer A Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 986	Thanks everyone!! I'm glad that things are getting better also.. I hate for her to be scared and lonely and we are all trying to help her adjust.. She is eating great and peeing and pooping fine..For a puppy that has never touched grass before, she sure like to use the bathroom on it.. She will usually go potty everytime we go outside..She keeps wanting to play with toys but Tucker won't share his. I never thought to buy her her own since he has so many and I am sure that he will take hers from her when she gets them.. Man he is really jealous...not in a mean way though... he started limping and yelping and holding his paw up and he ran to his chair.. I was holding Maddie and I put her down and ran over to him and he was holding his paw up in the air and just crying.. I picked him up to look at it and he laid his head on my chest and stopped crying.. When I felt of his leg he never cried so I set him down and he ran and got his favorite toy...What a faker!! Oh listen and then I'll go..... My husband has never been a dog lover but he is coming around since we got Maddie.. Well last night we were buying some christmas stuff at Walmart and he said that we needed to get Tucker and Maddie each a stocking with goodies in it.. I didn't even think this man knew that people actually got christmas gifts for dogs and so we went and looked at them and he said, nah I don't like those, we'll have to go to Petsmart and get them some good ones...What a softie!! lol!!

11-21-2005, 07:14 AM	#30
livingdustmops Princess Poop A Lot Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Colorado Posts: 6,728	I love happy endings. __________________ Cindy & The Rescued Gang Puppies Are Not Products!