I can't do it!

[ladyjane]

Oh, we had one today that a person was keeping in a crate on her porch .. said she moved from a house to an apartment and that the yorkie had to stay in that crate. No clue why.

Wanted to surrender her because the neighbors cannot stand her barking. Luckily the pup was still alive and able to bark...the temps are in the 90s now.

The numbers of homeless yorkies and the reasons for it are mind blowing.

[Patti]

I am pretty sure the OP knows how people feel about where is the best place to purchase a puppy by now. He is invested emotionally and financially and it sounds like Twix will be very loved. I have had Yorkies for over 40 years and am still learning. The one thing I have found to be true, in my opinion, is that with Yorkies it is not easy to get a 100 % healthy one no mater where they are from. All you can do is try and pick the best breeder you can and hope for the best. I have 4, Nikki is a rescue that is estimated at 17+ years of age, he was found on the streets and does not appear to be bred to the standard. he is extremely healthy, Cali was from a BYB, she had major health issues and no guarantee, I was on my own with 8,000.00 in medical bills her first year. She is doing good now but has Grade 4 LP in both legs and mild MVD and allergies. Pixie is from a show breeder and had LP surgery last year. Roxie who is knock on wood healthy, is from the same breeder and was a "replacement" for DIxie who died at 6 months from congenital kidney failure. So you can see I have a mix of rescue, BYB and show breeder babies. So no matter how careful you are you can run in to health issues with Yorkies. A big difference is in the way the breeder handles the health issues once you have them home. I hope you have many, many happy, healthy years with Twix.

[babiegurl]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Oh, we had one today that a person was keeping in a crate on her porch .. said she moved from a house to an apartment and that the yorkie had to stay in that crate. No clue why.

Wanted to surrender her because the neighbors cannot stand her barking. Luckily the pup was still alive and able to bark...the temps are in the 90s now.

The numbers of homeless yorkies and the reasons for it are mind blowing.

That's heartbreaking. Now some of the ones Ive read are kinda suspect. Like one who's trying to "rehome" a yorkie mix that's only 2 months old due to the baby being allergic, yet the rehome fee is $550!!!! Oh really now? Another has a 4 month old puppy selling for $330 because they are moving to a place where pets are not allowed (I guess they didnt bother trying to find a pet friendly apartment)....

[babiegurl]

Originally Posted by Patti

I am pretty sure the OP knows how people feel about where is the best place to purchase a puppy by now. He is invested emotionally and financially and it sounds like Twix will be very loved. I have had Yorkies for over 40 years and am still learning. The one thing I have found to be true, in my opinion, is that with Yorkies it is not easy to get a 100 % healthy one no mater where they are from. All you can do is try and pick the best breeder you can and hope for the best. I have 4, Nikki is a rescue that is estimated at 17+ years of age, he was found on the streets and does not appear to be bred to the standard. he is extremely healthy, Cali was from a BYB, she had major health issues and no guarantee, I was on my own with 8,000.00 in medical bills her first year. She is doing good now but has Grade 4 LP in both legs and mild MVD and allergies. Pixie is from a show breeder and had LP surgery last year. Roxie who is knock on wood healthy, is from the same breeder and was a "replacement" for DIxie who died at 6 months from congenital kidney failure. So you can see I have a mix of rescue, BYB and show breeder babies. So no matter how careful you are you can run in to health issues with Yorkies. A big difference is in the way the breeder handles the health issues once you have them home. I hope you have many, many happy, healthy years with Twix.

WOW. Thank you so much for sharing. Thats a lot of financial and emotional investment involved! I dont know how I would react if my CJ passed away....

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by babiegurl

That's heartbreaking. Now some of the ones Ive read are kinda suspect. Like one who's trying to "rehome" a yorkie mix that's only 2 months old due to the baby being allergic, yet the rehome fee is $550!!!! Oh really now? Another has a 4 month old puppy selling for $330 because they are moving to a place where pets are not allowed (I guess they didnt bother trying to find a pet friendly apartment)....

Oh, people give up their pups all of the time for:

allergies

cannot housebreak

baby coming

new husband said I cannot keep my pup

moving and cannot take the pup

The list of excuses is endless...those above are some of the more common reasons.

[Buster Brown]

Originally Posted by YorkDaddy

Hey, thank you for that! I TOTALLY, and I think I can even speak for babiegurl and say we totally understood her point of view and NEVER did we challenge anything she said.

I stumbled across Yorkie Talk and was very happy to do so...it was like a parallel universe appeared lol. I think a lot of people get dogs because of the love they wanna give but they have to grown and learn, just like in all areas of life. With that knowledge you can become the very best in whatever you are trying to do!

That's all I was trying to do! After I found out I couldn't adopt, I start researching for Yorkies on my own. I ran across other breeders who totally sent up red flags so I immediately ceased all communication. This one seemed like she had a real love and passion for dogs. She was just older and I knew they weren't getting the personal attention. Then I found out the food she was feeding him was horrible and thats when I started to worry and really want to free my baby! I never made excuses for the breeder but when I tried to give her my email address while we were sitting at her kitchen table she didn't know that you use the @ symbol instead of the word at, amongst other little factors that I started to piece together. I realized she might not be a bad breeder, just truly uninformed and out of the loop. Or she honestly could just be a bad breeder. I didn't want to bad mouth her character because I have no idea. That's why I wanted to pull some information and show her what I learned and ways she can incorporate it. Then if she decided not to make the changes, that's an issue!

The discussion took a major turn but I never tried to stop anyone from spreading their information, and never debated the facts.

Now what you have said about the move.......is really what scares me. While, I personally wont be moving anything myself (lol) I don't want him to be scared by all the confusion going on, and then I don't want him getting use to this environment and only be here a month!

You are right.......however, if he tells me that he is ready to go home tomorrow then I will just have to make it happen. He is priority number one! That is my son!!!!

and that is how it should be. It will be your first official Father's Day!
Best wishes Buster sends love and licks to Twix.

[YorkDaddy]

Originally Posted by Patti

I am pretty sure the OP knows how people feel about where is the best place to purchase a puppy by now. He is invested emotionally and financially and it sounds like Twix will be very loved. I have had Yorkies for over 40 years and am still learning. The one thing I have found to be true, in my opinion, is that with Yorkies it is not easy to get a 100 % healthy one no mater where they are from. All you can do is try and pick the best breeder you can and hope for the best. I have 4, Nikki is a rescue that is estimated at 17+ years of age, he was found on the streets and does not appear to be bred to the standard. he is extremely healthy, Cali was from a BYB, she had major health issues and no guarantee, I was on my own with 8,000.00 in medical bills her first year. She is doing good now but has Grade 4 LP in both legs and mild MVD and allergies. Pixie is from a show breeder and had LP surgery last year. Roxie who is knock on wood healthy, is from the same breeder and was a "replacement" for DIxie who died at 6 months from congenital kidney failure. So you can see I have a mix of rescue, BYB and show breeder babies. So no matter how careful you are you can run in to health issues with Yorkies. A big difference is in the way the breeder handles the health issues once you have them home. I hope you have many, many happy, healthy years with Twix.

Oh wow! I am so sorry you had to deal with all that from your babies Ms. Patti! I am sending positive energy your way and hoping you don't have any more major issues and you too have many happy and HEALTH(IER) years with your babies!!


Thank you so much for the well wishes!

[Patti]

I volunteer every wednesday at a no kill shelter and it is so sad to see the reason's they are rehoming. The only good thing I can say is at least they turned them in and did not let them loose because we get a lot of that too. People dump them at the shelter at night even though signs are posted about it being against the law. Some leave them in crates, some just throw them on the grounds, which is right on a busy street. Having worked at a shelter any future dogs will be rescues but I have also had 40 years of getting just the puppy I wanted and everyone should have the choice. JMO

[babiegurl]

While living in San Antonio, the locals were known for dumping their pets on the side of the road! One time, as I was waiting with my son for his bus, I saw a lady stop in the middle of the street and dump two dogs off in a lot! I was floored!

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by ladyjane

Oh, people give up their pups all of the time for:

allergies

cannot housebreak

baby coming

new husband said I cannot keep my pup

moving and cannot take the pup

The list of excuses is endless...those above are some of the more common reasons.

My personal least favorite:
-Giving up the older dog because it doesn't like the new puppy!

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Patti

I volunteer every wednesday at a no kill shelter and it is so sad to see the reason's they are rehoming. The only good thing I can say is at least they turned them in and did not let them loose because we get a lot of that too. People dump them at the shelter at night even though signs are posted about it being against the law. Some leave them in crates, some just throw them on the grounds, which is right on a busy street. Having worked at a shelter any future dogs will be rescues but I have also had 40 years of getting just the puppy I wanted and everyone should have the choice. JMO

No one said that people don't have a choice. Education is all this was. I never ONCE told anyone NOT to buy a puppy they had planned to buy.

I have a vested interest in letting people know the pitfalls. This thread just happened to be one that needed it...because the person was making excuses for a bad breeder. He can buy the puppy...but don't go telling me that she is ok and educable after 30 years of bad breeding. Thats all. JMHO

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

My personal least favorite:
-Giving up the older dog because it doesn't like the new puppy!

Yep...that is another one. They are each my least favorites and when I adopt I remember those reasons. Maybe it makes it a little more difficult for some people to prove themselves...but be darned if I want a pup that has been in my home to go through any more living hell.

I think it is time to get off the pc for now. I made my points and we will always have counter points even if only to try and win friends (human ones). Have a wonderful day people!

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by Patti

I volunteer every wednesday at a no kill shelter and it is so sad to see the reason's they are rehoming. The only good thing I can say is at least they turned them in and did not let them loose because we get a lot of that too. People dump them at the shelter at night even though signs are posted about it being against the law. Some leave them in crates, some just throw them on the grounds, which is right on a busy street. Having worked at a shelter any future dogs will be rescues but I have also had 40 years of getting just the puppy I wanted and everyone should have the choice. JMO

So buying from a bad breeder is ok because it's their choice? To me, it's very sad that is even an option.

[York4Ever]

Originally Posted by Maximo

A collar on a pup kept in a kennel would not be a good idea. The collar can get caught in the cage and choke the pup.

This does not sound like a good situation. I know you are eager to have a pup, but you should understand the risk of buying from this breeder.

Is she giving you a really good health guarantee?

So many red flags -- too many puppy litters, multiple breeds, older woman not capable of caring for the pups, feeding Ol Roy.

Keep in mind, a sick Yorkie can run up thousands of dollars in medical bills. A pup can look healthy when you pick them up, but a few days or weeks later, everything can go downhill fast. This is often what happens with bad breeding.

I totally agree.. this breeder doesn't sound to be that good... you can't even be sure that your puppy is 100% healthy..
keeping dogs in crates all day.. that's horrible!! a good breeder would have their puppies at home, with them all the time..

be carefull!!!

[Patti]

Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

So buying from a bad breeder is ok because it's their choice? To me, it's very sad that is even an option.

Sorry you took it the wrong way. What I was saying is that I would only rescue any future dogs instead of going to a great breeder. But that was my decision. What I meant was if rescue wasn't their thing then they should have the choice to get a puppy from a good breeder. Believe me I have had more than my share of health issues and would never recommend someone buy from a bad breeder. Rescue is not for everyone and not everyone qualifies for rescues due to small children etc doesn't mean they won't make a great home. This is why I stay away from these threads because their is only one right opinion it seems.