I can't do it!

[katienme2002]

I feel for you on this, I really do. I knew the consquences of buying from a backyard breeder, but when I laid eyes on Foxy, it was over. I just lost my other yorkie right before Christmas and wanted another soooo badly. That being said, she has had the MOST issues you could possibly imagine. I drove 5 hrs to get her and she wasnt the picture I had in mind..She has horrible teeth, was actually pregnant, just not well cared for at all. We have tons of vet bills and more to come. Now with that being said, I cannot say I wouldnt do it again, because in my stubborn mind I felt like I was rescuing her and I still feel that way. I really cannot help you with any good advice other than please be sure you are able to do vet bills and such in case this breeder isnt as good as you think. JMO..

[bellababy08]

Originally Posted by Patti

If you are already committed to this baby financially or emotionally and are prepared for the possible fall out from buying from a questionable breeder, I would get him out as soon as possible. If he is 3 1/2 months now I would try and take him home this weekend. I am not one to break the rules but if you can either keep him quiet or tell the building management that it is only for 1 month and you will pay for any damages he/she will make an exception. I hope it all works out.

I agree!!! It sounds like you are already committed and love this pup. I would get him ASAP...you are already going to move...the worst the landlord could do is evict you...and he has to give you 30 day with the eviction or atleast that is the law here in florida.

[chachi]

It is very unlikely anyone would know you have a pup in the house. When they are young they dont bark.

[sganow]

Yeah, I think I'd go get him too. Also, take him to a vet right away and have him checked over real good. You want to make sure he has no hernias, luxating patella, ear infection or mites, worms, uti, etc. At his age, I'd want to start loving and bonding with him. I'm not going to bash the breeder or anyone who gets a puppy from such a breeder. I don't know the situation well enough to comment. Get your little guy, love him, and take good care of him!

[capt_noonie]

If it were me, I'd run from this breeder! It's hard to walk away from the cute pups that are seemingly uncared for, but buying and supporting this kind of breeder is not saving the pups, it's enabling the greeder.

You can't get a hold of the daughter before she got your money? Imagine what will happen if you try to contact her about an illness congential defect or anything else later?

btw 20 puppies????! how did you find this person to begin with?

[YorkDaddy]

Thank you everyone. I actually heard about her from someone else who got the info from another friend. None of them have any problems. I can get in touch with the mother, its just the daughter I can't and she seems to be the "boss". I kinda prefer sticking with the mom now anyway. I'll just ask all my questions when I see her Saturday.

I called around to some vets and they were saying they generally just do a regular exam for a new puppy. I was explaining the situation about the breeder and I said I wanted a thorough check. She said they don't generally do bloodwork and all that unless the doctor notices something when they check him out. I called like 5 vets today and that was the general answer.

They all agreed the food was horrible but they have seen other dogs raised up on it for long periods of time. Everyone just stated to change the food immediately. I lurk around the entire forum so I already know what my food choices will be.

About the breeder...she has an add on unit to her home which is air conditioned. Its like 3 or 4 dogs in a few crates, some have only 1 or 2 dogs in them. They are not all on top of each other. They all had fresh newspaper in each crate and fresh food and water. They didn't look deprived at all. I just didn't think he is getting the individual attention and love he needs.

LOL @ sneaky two dogs in! You sound like my neighbor. One day we saw one little puppy, the next day it was a big bushy dog. Its like really???? We were upset because we want our dog as well but never complained or informed anyone. We will decide the best decision for Twix in the long run.

Thanks again for all the concern and advice. We just can't wait to get Twix home.

[Rhetts_mama]

Originally Posted by capt_noonie

If it were me, I'd run from this breeder! It's hard to walk away from the cute pups that are seemingly uncared for, but buying and supporting this kind of breeder is not saving the pups, it's enabling the greeder.

You can't get a hold of the daughter before she got your money? Imagine what will happen if you try to contact her about an illness congential defect or anything else later?

btw 20 puppies????! how did you find this person to begin with?

It's also not a good idea to bring a new pet in to the home during a move. New puppies are stressful. Moves are stressful. It's hard to keep to a good routine that the pups need and it's even harder to keep them SAFE during the upheaval.

[sweet_tikka]

As far as the testing, you should be able to simply request for and LP test and bile acid test. No vet should argue about those two test if your puppy has never had them done. Those can cause major problems in the long run, a good/reputable breeder will usually have those test done before they hand over the puppy and usually provide at least a 1 year health garuntee. Just so ya know


Tikka isn't from a reputable breeder nor were her previous owners, they were quite sketchy so Tikka will be getting those tests done soon!

[YorkDaddy]

Originally Posted by sweet_tikka

As far as the testing, you should be able to simply request for and LP test and bile acid test. No vet should argue about those two test if your puppy has never had them done. Those can cause major problems in the long run, a good/reputable breeder will usually have those test done before they hand over the puppy and usually provide at least a 1 year health garuntee. Just so ya know


Tikka isn't from a reputable breeder nor were her previous owners, they were quite sketchy so Tikka will be getting those tests done soon!

Thank you so much! I will ask about those test!!

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by YorkDaddy

Thank you everyone. I actually heard about her from someone else who got the info from another friend. None of them have any problems. I can get in touch with the mother, its just the daughter I can't and she seems to be the "boss". I kinda prefer sticking with the mom now anyway. I'll just ask all my questions when I see her Saturday.

I called around to some vets and they were saying they generally just do a regular exam for a new puppy. I was explaining the situation about the breeder and I said I wanted a thorough check. She said they don't generally do bloodwork and all that unless the doctor notices something when they check him out. I called like 5 vets today and that was the general answer.

They all agreed the food was horrible but they have seen other dogs raised up on it for long periods of time. Everyone just stated to change the food immediately. I lurk around the entire forum so I already know what my food choices will be.

About the breeder...she has an add on unit to her home which is air conditioned. Its like 3 or 4 dogs in a few crates, some have only 1 or 2 dogs in them. They are not all on top of each other. They all had fresh newspaper in each crate and fresh food and water. They didn't look deprived at all. I just didn't think he is getting the individual attention and love he needs.

LOL @ sneaky two dogs in! You sound like my neighbor. One day we saw one little puppy, the next day it was a big bushy dog. Its like really???? We were upset because we want our dog as well but never complained or informed anyone. We will decide the best decision for Twix in the long run.

Thanks again for all the concern and advice. We just can't wait to get Twix home.

But the dtr is the "boss" but you can't get a hold of the "boss" only the assistant. Does not sound good to me at all. I've gotta say, since you do read and lurk around here a lot, I think it's fairly obvious you know a lot more about what and what not to look for in a breeder than I did before I got my first yorkie. With that, I don't understand why you are getting your pup from this family. Really, I do not understand why you are trusting them to give (um, sell) you a puppy that will be a life long dedication.

You were the one who said you didn't like the situation, and there were about 20 dogs. Now you say she isn't that bad there's only 3 or 4 dogs in a few crates. Obviously you didn't feel great about the breeder in the first place, that's why you started this thread. Now you defend her? Were you just looking for us to tell you, "it's ok, you're doing such a great thing by saving this baby from the horrible breeder."? By buying your puppy from this breeder you are putting money back in their pockets. Only breeders who breed for the betterment of the breed should be breeding. I have a feeling if a breeder is feeding Ol' Roy, they do NOT have the dogs best interest at heart. There are just far too many dogs in rescues and shelters being put down every day for just anyone to breed and continue the cycle of too many animals, not enough good homes.

[yorkiemini]

Do your have a friend Twix could hang out with - with lots of visits of course - until the move was officially completed. I kept my friends dog until they could get moved and they came every evening after work and even brought me pizza and other good things to eat and drink !

[Jennxling]

I have no idea what OlRoy is...last year, I lived in an apartment that didn't allow dogs...I got Carmel and have him for 9 months and Emma for 6 months there. I never got caught...I was always very careful and tried to take them out with me 80-90% of the time. Also, they stayed at my bf's place 3 times a week. They rarely stayed at my place when I'm not there. My bf and I trade off when we have work...they would stay more at his place if we both are busy because he lives with his parents and they are okay with it. Thus, we did plan out everything before getting them...hope things work out for you!

Also, my babies' don't bark. Even now that we live in an apartment that allows dogs...my next door neighbor says that it doesn't even sound like we have dogs... we do wish Carmel would bark...only heard him bark once at the dog park to protect Emma. Emma barks more, but still not that much. Maybe I got lucky and got none yappy dogs?

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by Jennxling

I have no idea what OlRoy is...last year, I lived in an apartment that didn't allow dogs...I got Carmel and have him for 9 months and Emma for 6 months there. I never got caught...I was always very careful and tried to take them out with me 80-90% of the time. Also, they stayed at my bf's place 3 times a week. They rarely stayed at my place when I'm not there. My bf and I trade off when we have work...they would stay more at his place if we both are busy because he lives with his parents and they are okay with it. Thus, we did plan out everything before getting them...hope things work out for you!

Also, my babies' don't bark. Even now that we live in an apartment that allows dogs...my next door neighbor says that it doesn't even sound like we have dogs... we do wish Carmel would bark...only heard him bark once at the dog park to protect Emma. Emma barks more, but still not that much. Maybe I got lucky and got none yappy dogs?

It's probably best you have never heard of Ol Roy, they are sold exclusively at WalMarts

Ol’ Roy Dog Food | Review and Rating Prepared to be disgusted.

And a link within the review has some interesting info about grains in cheap dog foods. http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-fo...in-dog-food-1/

[Possum]

Wow! You really have a delima. There are several fed flags with this breeder. If you are financialy & emotionaly attached to this pup then you need to go get him. Puppies that stay in wire floored cages develop serious health issues. If your pup is 3 1/2 mo he needs to get out asap. Is there a friend who can keep the pup until you can move?
Its such a shame that these situations develop. Why did you buy from this breeder?

Good Luck

[capt_noonie]

Originally Posted by Possum

Wow! You really have a delima. There are several fed flags with this breeder. If you are financialy & emotionaly attached to this pup then you need to go get him. Puppies that stay in wire floored cages develop serious health issues. If your pup is 3 1/2 mo he needs to get out asap. Is there a friend who can keep the pup until you can move?
Its such a shame that these situations develop. Why did you buy from this breeder?

Good Luck

Still waiting for the answer. Seems like the OP just answers whoever they want to and not everyone.