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jencar98 04-06-2011 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3489436)
Haters?...Ignorance??....Really, has it come to this? That's very sad to read.

I don't think there's any hate here or that the issue should be cast as either pro or anti. There are some of us that are advocates for the Yorkshire Terrier as described in the breed standard...but haters?

I want to clear something up...at least on my part. If I've expressed heated views, it is not out of hate for any dog. It is more a response to the constant slamming of the parent club by 'some' parti breeders and of some of the dis-ingenious notions of history they use. Is it not enough to say that the parti is recognized by AKC but is not eligible for conformation events? That much is inarguably true. No need to add suppositions that serves no one...least of all the dogs. It's my own opinion but may be shared by some others to some degree. We should all be good ambassadors for the breed and slamming the parent club and inventing a 'history' doesn't serve that purpose IMO.

And I know Ann can speak for herself. I'm sure she loves Pfieffer (as she should....he's a darling boy) and I'm also sure her opinions are more evolved than to be either simply anti or pro. I'm pretty sure she and I have no animosity over this issue (at least I hope not :D).
Sorry Jim, I should have worded my post differently. Not hate of the dog per se but yes, there are some exhibitors that "hate" the idea of tri color yorkies being bred, accepted by the AKC as purebred yorkies, and becoming so popular among pet buyers.

Buster Brown 04-06-2011 04:04 PM
Loved the Tail video :)

lisaly 04-06-2011 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AprilLove (Post 3489487)
Perhaps I am a little biased...:D But it would be a Biewer for me!! Biva Biva Biva. I absolutely fell in love with their personalities as much as I did for my Yorkies' personality.
Besides that they are a stunningly beautiful little dog, it is their personalities that hooked me. That being said, if I had to choose between a Parti Yorkie and Biewer and everything was exactly the same between them except the TAIL, the tail would be the deal breaker.
I personally have a real hard time with the fact that we CUT dogs tails just to meet a "standard", but that is just my point of view :)
I can't imagine my Biewers without their tails!! But again, I kind of have a thing for tails, lol. I believe they are an integral part of all dogs personalities and their ability to communication

YouTube - everyday moments


Their personalities are pretty much the same as my Yorkie, except she has a little more "tude" than they do. :p Since AprilLove is my first Yorkie or Terrier, I don't really know what people mean by "terrier" like attributes. But I don't think she acts terrierish (is that a word? lol), her and the Biewers are all laid back, but perhaps that is how I raised them, i dunno.
I have seen this video many times, and each time I see it, I love it. Each and every photo of your babies is gorgeous, and your babies are equally as beautiful as the images that you capture of them.

lisaly 04-06-2011 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Breny (Post 3489496)
Its been ask that I post my Parti babies. They are 12 weeks old and all have wonderful homes waiting for them. They are the product of two traditional blue and tan Yorkies.

I present Madison, Halo, Merrick and Mason :)
Your babies are beautiful, Breny. I am thoroughly enjoying all of the photos on this thread whether they be Biewer or Parti. I think they are both stunning.

Breezeaway 04-06-2011 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3489436)
Haters?...Ignorance??....Really, has it come to this? That's very sad to read.

I don't think there's any hate here or that the issue should be cast as either pro or anti. There are some of us that are advocates for the Yorkshire Terrier as described in the breed standard...but haters?

I want to clear something up...at least on my part. If I've expressed heated views, it is not out of hate for any dog. It is more a response to the constant slamming of the parent club by 'some' parti breeders and of some of the dis-ingenious notions of history they use. Is it not enough to say that the parti is recognized by AKC but is not eligible for conformation events? That much is inarguably true. No need to add suppositions that serves no one...least of all the dogs. It's my own opinion but may be shared by some others to some degree. We should all be good ambassadors for the breed and slamming the parent club and inventing a 'history' doesn't serve that purpose IMO.

And I know Ann can speak for herself. I'm sure she loves Pfieffer (as she should....he's a darling boy) and I'm also sure her opinions are more evolved than to be either simply anti or pro. I'm pretty sure she and I have no animosity over this issue (at least I hope not :D).
And that is why the threads get heated, because of statements like that. Every piece of history that has been documented and posted has been taken word for word from Old old books on the yorkie. It has not been made up and has not been invented. WE type it just as it is written. The links to the books are posted on the PYTC website. So is the letter Joan Gordon wrote to me saying that their are other colors of yorkies.
Geesh I guess your saying that Joan and Jan Gordon invented the history of the other colors and wrote them in their book. That they fabricated the part of them being born of several colors on Page 205 of their Book:The Complete Yorkshire Terrier
Author: Joan B. Gordon, Janet E. Bennett
Behind THE COMPLETE YORKSHIRE TERRIER is an authority attested by the greatest kennel record in the breed's history. —
In nearly three decades of devotion to the breed, the authors - twin sisters Joan B Gordon and Janet E Bennett - have finished 169 Yorkshire Terriers to AKC championship, over a hundred of them homebred. —
THE COMPLETE YORKSHIRE TERRIER rewardingly reflects this unmatched experience. For veterans and novices alike, the superb chapters on care and grooming (brimming with special insights and hints) are sure to become the quoted guide for years to come.

Now you tell me from this photo how we have misquoted or invented history from this.

MauiGirl 04-06-2011 04:12 PM
I love both Partis and Biewers and hope to add either one to my pack someday! Seeing all the beautiful photos really gives me the *wants*, but thank you all for sharing.

Breezeaway 04-06-2011 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Breny (Post 3489496)
Its been ask that I post my Parti babies. They are 12 weeks old and all have wonderful homes waiting for them. They are the product of two traditional blue and tan Yorkies.

I present Madison, Halo, Merrick and Mason :)
They are beautiful Parti puppies Breny, stunning.

Wylie's Mom 04-06-2011 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3489436)
And I know Ann can speak for herself. I'm sure she loves Pfieffer (as she should....he's a darling boy) and I'm also sure her opinions are more evolved than to be either simply anti or pro. I'm pretty sure she and I have no animosity over this issue (at least I hope not :D).
Definitely no animosity over this issue, not at all :)!

I did toss out the words 'anti and pro' - and I hope that didn't come off weird. I didn't mean 'anti' to imply something negative...being 'anti' something isn't a bad thing, just different from pro. Hope nobody took that the wrong way.

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Originally Posted by Woogie Man (Post 3489449)
ooops.....and I mean major OOOPS...Sorry, Ann :D

LMAO....at myself.

Thanks for the correction, Karen.
LOL :D! No apologies needed. It's not like Pfeiffer is exactly a girly name :). Which is good, bc she is a total tom boy.

jencar98 04-06-2011 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AprilLove (Post 3489487)
Perhaps I am a little biased...:D But it would be a Biewer for me!! Biva Biva Biva. I absolutely fell in love with their personalities as much as I did for my Yorkies' personality.
Besides that they are a stunningly beautiful little dog, it is their personalities that hooked me. That being said, if I had to choose between a Parti Yorkie and Biewer and everything was exactly the same between them except the TAIL, the tail would be the deal breaker.
I personally have a real hard time with the fact that we CUT dogs tails just to meet a "standard", but that is just my point of view :)
I can't imagine my Biewers without their tails!! But again, I kind of have a thing for tails, lol. I believe they are an integral part of all dogs personalities and their ability to communication


Their personalities are pretty much the same as my Yorkie, except she has a little more "tude" than they do. :p Since AprilLove is my first Yorkie or Terrier, I don't really know what people mean by "terrier" like attributes. But I don't think she acts terrierish (is that a word? lol), her and the Biewers are all laid back, but perhaps that is how I raised them, i dunno.
MaryKay.....I LOVEEEE that video! I could watch hours of those gorgeous tails wagging back and forth.:)

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Originally Posted by TammyJM (Post 3489506)
I loveeeee a full tail!! I'm so glad that we didn't have them docked on Livi's babies....so stinkin' cute! :)
Me too!:D

kpstoybox 04-06-2011 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Breny (Post 3489496)
Its been ask that I post my Parti babies. They are 12 weeks old and all have wonderful homes waiting for them. They are the product of two traditional blue and tan Yorkies.

I present Madison, Halo, Merrick and Mason :)
Gorgeous parti babies Breny!! Their colors are amazing! Very nice!!

Breny 04-06-2011 04:36 PM
Thanks. They are perfectly marked as though they were a Biewer, but they are Parti's. I loved everyone one of them!

jencar98 04-06-2011 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom (Post 3489545)
I did toss out the words 'anti and pro' - and I hope that didn't come off weird. I didn't mean 'anti' to imply something negative...being 'anti' something isn't a bad thing, just different from pro. Hope nobody took that the wrong way.
Ann...I didn't take it that way, just thought the term "pro-parti" sounded so cute, is why I quoted it and loved it.

Breny 04-06-2011 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MauiGirl (Post 3489535)
I love both Partis and Biewers and hope to add either one to my pack someday! Seeing all the beautiful photos really gives me the *wants*, but thank you all for sharing.
Well when you find your next baby I volunteer to bring her too you and stay a few weeks...months....hehehehehehehe :D:D:D

but seriously are their many breeders there? I always wondered. :)

MauiGirl 04-06-2011 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Breny (Post 3489496)
Its been ask that I post my Parti babies. They are 12 weeks old and all have wonderful homes waiting for them. They are the product of two traditional blue and tan Yorkies.

I present Madison, Halo, Merrick and Mason :)
Darn it Breny, these are the kind of pictures that drive me nuts! They are so amazingly cute, I'll be thinking of them for days, with a very serious case of the wants. I have got to stop looking, the cuteness overload is killing me:D

kpstoybox 04-06-2011 04:48 PM
Having owned and bred both the Biewer and the Parti...the only thing IMO that sets them apart is the tail and the registration. I am 100% passionately devoted to the tri yorkie...whether it is a Biewer or a parti. With that said..since I prefer my tri yorkies with a docked tail and a silk coat, and AKC registration...I prefer the parti yorkie.


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