LOL Actually there is no correlation between AKC registration and a pup not being a tri. ;)
Both standard color and off colors are registered.

I loved what looked like slow motion in the video. It reminds me of those hair commercials with the women with the long beautiful hair tossing it back and forth. Just beautiful!

I had never heard of the Parti before YT and had rarely seen a Biewer but since joining up here I already know my next pup will be a Parti yorkie. That being said both are cute :)

Your original question....

Just curious . . .
How is "Madison" perfectly marked as a Biewer when there is no white and Biewers are req'd to have absolutely white legs?

I realize Breny said "her puppies" were beautifully marked like some Biewers. And she did include a pic of a black and tan yorkie with the three tri's.

However, common sense told me that she was talking about the pups that were actually marked like Biewers. Madison is not a Parti, Biewer or even mis-marked. She doesn't have a speck of white on her. Who would confuse her with a Biewer? :confused:
Your question (well intentioned or not), IMO...might cause some confusion to those just learning about the Parti and Biewer. I was just clearing up any confusion, that your confusion may have caused for others. ;)

How's this? Madison is a traditional colored littermate to the three purebred AKC reg parti yorkie pups that are beautifully marked like a Biewer. Better?

A Yorkie that is a parti color carrier can look just like a regular yorkie with no white at all on them, but they can still carry the gene and when bred to another carrier showing no white either they can produce parti color puppies. Thats when you get a Surprise Parti!!

i have done alot of research about the biewer and parti's because i thought about buying one. i have looked thru many pictures and have seen a few pictures of mr and mrs biewer with their biewers. i have not seen any with the dark faces like yours in this thread. i'm sure the biewers had some with flaws because what breeder hasnt delt with this but he did not breed for a black face. so if parti's are directly related to the biewer then those parti pups are not perfectly marked and they arent for a biewer either and i don't think that the work of all before us to create a beautiful tri-color dog should be ignored. keep going and we will start seeing an all black yorkie. just my 2 cents though

Biewer History

Exactly. I wasn't sure how Breny considered Madison perfectly marked as if she were a Biewer when she had no white - nothing about registration. I thought it looked like a standard pup - no mismarkings - so I asked Breny maybe I misunderstood the Biewer Standard or it had been changed or indeed she included extra photos. She clarified. No more needed.
But then you said (as clarification :confused:) she is AKC registered as if that was the relevant to my question to Breny about color and that it correlated with not being a tri. LOL Not true. Well intentioned or not, your response was irrelevant to my question to Breny causing confusion, especially if you're just learning.

Again Breny answered that she posted a traditional even though she said she was posting tri's marked perfectly as if Biewers. That's it. No need to confuse with registration etc. LOL
All good...

Breed standard

Head coloring is (Blue/Black, White, Gold/Tan); (Blue/Black, Gold/Tan); (Gold/Tan, White) in good symmetry.

I breed partis, but I love the look of the Biewer also. There might be one in my breeding program sometime in the future.

The judges have asked for a better, clearer standard from which to judge the biewers.. many if not most Biewers heads change in color so drastically by the time they are three years old it is almost impossible to tell what they will look like when they are puppies.. mine have almost all cleared to a tan like a yorkie head does even though as pups they had vibrant colors.. and, even though the parents don't have blazes... they have thrown full white blazes and muzzles.. there is just so much we don't know yet about the modifiers that work on facial coloring and it has nothing to do with the quality of the total dog.

Actually, all that is really needed is that white come up from the neck to the lower jaw so that there is white somewhere on the head.. some of course have alot more and have those beautiful blazes, some have much less and have lovely dark faces.. as of right now, it is a personal preference and the judges have been much more interested in structure and character of the dogs than what color is where, as they should be.. color is of such miniscule importance in the overall value of the dog when you consider all the other issues like health, character, ear set, top line, tail set, size, pedigree etc etc etc.. we have way to many other things to concern ourselves about as breeders than to worry about if we have a symmetry in our faces.

Diana :animal-pa

Quick off topic question:
If you breed a Biewer to a Parti does AKC accept the offspring...stipulations?
At some point down the road in parentage maybe?
They can be hmmmm bred back in to AKC?

i think that the standard should be followed and that a person should not intentionaly breed to go outside of that. the breeders that are breeding such adark face are changing the look of the biewer. i said that i could understand if this was just a flaw that poped up but these breeders in this thread are buying black-face males for breeding and are toting that they have perfectly bred dogs when they dont. when i see mr and mrs biewer's dogs i dont see an all black face and i'm pretty sure he worked hard to what he considered to be the correct look. if its a flaw than i think that it should be told to buyers and not have a few people saying how perfect they are.

they can only be registerd as a biewer and never with akc

This is true.. at the present time, Biewers can not be registered AKC

I try not to jump into the heated topics (not a fan) and I'd like to just preface what I have to say by saying the pics of the biewers and partis are absolutely gorgeous and maybe the AKC should consider making them breed variations just like the Cocker Spaniel breed has....however, I wouldn't use that quote to boost what you're saying....just trying to be helpful. The quote says that it is "very wise to guard against the possibility of tricolor." I would use something else...perhaps the dogs' utter cuteness, other breeds who have accepted color and coat variations (Cocker Spaniel, Parsons Terrier, Collie, etc.). And if you were just asking which one people who were interested in these two breeds preferred, sorry if I misunderstood the question posed, but I have greatly enjoyed the pics of all of the biewers and partis you all own - beautiful dogs!!!:)