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chachi · 04-01-2011, 11:28 AM

If she is potty trained put the crate up during the day. I think she is fearful

toney5 · 04-01-2011, 11:34 AM

Gennies and Smallmans Thank you, for at least showing a little understanding and compassion. As I said before, I came here for help. If I had known I would be attacked, that would not have been the case. I love my Yorkie and I want her and us to be a happy family. I do not abuse her. I use a paper when I spank her so I do not hurt her. She is very strong willed and sometimes nothing else works. I do not spank her everytime she needs to be disciplined. She is like my child! She is crated during the day because I work and it is just the two of us. She was crated at night as a way to potty train. I did much research before doing this and it worked. She has always barked when I put her in the crate but research said this was not usual and they would eventually stop doing that. She never did and I just attributed the short period of barking to her strong-will. When she is out of her crate and the crate is put way, she is a happy dog. She is loved and she adores me. We play together, she plays by herself, and she sleeps peacefully on her blanket or in my lap if I sit down. But if she sees the crate, she wants in it and basically refuses to come out. I do not believe it is out of fear or she would not act as she does when it is put away. I was looking for help here. I hate to have to hide her "room". I would like for it to be a safe haven so she can go to it when she wants to rest but also, come out and play normally (like she does if I hide it). I appreciate anyone who might have helpful suggestions but I do not appreciate your criticism of me.

toney5 · 04-01-2011, 11:37 AM

Thank you Gennies and Smallmans for at least showing a little understanding and compassion. As I said before, I came here for help. If I had known I would be attacked, that would not have been the case. I love my Yorkie and I want her and us to be a happy family. I do not abuse her. I use a paper when I spank her so I do not hurt her. She is very strong willed and sometimes nothing else works. I do not spank her everytime she needs to be disciplined. She is like my child! She is crated during the day because I work and it is just the two of us. She was crated at night as a way to potty train. I did much research before doing this and it worked. She has always barked when I put her in the crate but research said this was not usual and they would eventually stop doing that. She never did and I just attributed the short period of barking to her strong-will. When she is out of her crate and the crate is put way, she is a happy dog. She is loved and she adores me. We play together, she plays by herself, and she sleeps peacefully on her blanket or in my lap if I sit down. But if she sees the crate, she wants in it and basically refuses to come out. I do not believe it is out of fear or she would not act as she does when it is put away. I was looking for help here. I hate to have to hide her "room". I would like for it to be a safe haven so she can go to it when she wants to rest but also, come out and play normally (like she does if I hide it). I appreciate anyone who might have helpful suggestions but I do not appreciate your criticism of me.

toney5 · 04-01-2011, 11:45 AM

Thank you Gennies and Smallmans for at least showing a little understanding and companssion. As I said before, I came here for help. If I had known I would be attacked, that would not have been the case. I love my Yorkie and I want her and us to be a happy family. I do not abuse her. I use a paper when I spank her so I do not hurt her. She is very strong willed and sometimes nothing eles works. I do not spank her everytime she needs to be disciplined. She is like my child! She is crated during the day because I work and it is just the two of us. She was crated at night as a way to potty train. I did much research before doing this and it worked. She has always barked when I put her in the crate but researach saih this was not unusual and they would eventually stop doing that. She never did and I just attributed the short period of barking to her strong-will. When she is out of her crate and the crate is put a way, she is a happy dog. She is loved and she adores me. We play together, she play by herself, and she sleeps peacefully on her blanket or in my lap if I sit down. But if she sees the crate, she wants in it and basically refuses to come out. I do not believe it is out of fear or she would not act as she does when it is put away. I was looking for help here. I hate to have to hide her "room". I would like for it to be a safe haven so she can go to it when she wants to rest but also, come out and play normally (like she does if I hide it). I appreciate anyone who might have helpful suggestions but I do not appreciate your criticism of me!

moshes_human · 04-01-2011, 11:50 AM

Here is a helpful suggestion
Why “Spanking” your dog is wrong! Dog training blog, Austin tx

smallmans · 04-01-2011, 12:36 PM

It's good to hear you spend so much time with your little furbaby. They need lots of love! I would try leaving her crate out where you are with the door open.
When she goes in coax her out with a treat. Each time take the treat further and further away from the crate so she has to get farther away from it. Then . . . distract her with a toy. You will need special treats not the usual for this. Bella will do ANYTHING for a small piece of microwaved, plain chicken breast. Cut it super small. Smaller than a pea. When she goes back into the crate, do this again. Soon, she'll associate coming out as being better than staying in. She used to being in there so long that it is her truly safe place. Don't take it personally, she loves you very much, it's just that she has learned that her place is in her crate. You also might want to try leaving her in an ex-pen with her food/water, bed. Bella loves her ex pen. She is very content in it. She doesn't go potty in it because her bed is there and she is trained to only go outside. But, if your furbaby uses pee pads that could go in one side. They are always having them for sale on craigs list. I just couldn't bear the thought of Bella being in a crate while we were at work, so the ex-pen kept us both happy. I'm always happy to help, freel free to send me a pm any time. Bella was our very first dog and I had a lot to learn. The people on this forum were a BIG help and I love sharing everything I've learned. Have a great day!

EsmeeKimme · 04-01-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by toney5

I play with her all the time!!! I don't do anything else except play with her. It causes fights between me and by BF because all I do is play with her.

Not trying to be critical or rude so please take it in kindness, as a woman who has been divorced (I am remarried happily now) I would take it as a real concern if your BF is irritated at the amount of time you spend with your dog because if you should decide to have kids the time you have to spend with them will be 100 fold. I had an ex that had this issue which is why it jumped out at me.

As to the crate issue, I honestly have no idea why she wants to stay there other than that is what she is used to for most of her day/night. I would suggest putting it in another room so she can't access it as easily in the evenings when you want to be with her.

As for the spanking, I have no idea what to say. We raised a malawolf (part alaskan malamute/timber wolf) and never had to spank him. He had a will that was out of this world. I would do some research on positive reinforcement training and read over the article that the poster above me linked to you. Great strides have been made in dog psych so there is a real reason to study up on it in order to make you the happy family you are dreaming of.

Best of luck to you and your furbaby.

IsabelleOllie · 04-01-2011, 01:00 PM

I agree with trying positive reinforcement with treats and LOTS of praise. She needs to learn that it is more fun to be out of the crate playing and spending time with you than it is to be alone.

bellababy08 · 04-01-2011, 01:32 PM

PLEASE PLEASE don't hit your dog with anything...A shape NO will do the trick...the tone change of your voice is all that is needed.

People aren't attacking you...all they see is you hitting your furbaby with news paper...and making her fearful of you.

And no...your dog doesn't know right from wrong...you have to teach that to her NOT disciplining her with a news paper. Positive Reinforcement and redirecting her attention makes for a much happier and confident pet. Please reconsider your actions.

Positive Reinforcement

As for the crate...Thats all she knows...its her "safe place" her den...never try and keep her out of it...You say she is a year old now...maybe you could leave the door open a day and night and see how she does with that while your at work and sleeping...if she has no potty accidents...GREAT!! Continue to leave the door open, let her have free run of the house...only way your gonna know if she is truely potty trained is to test her...I have a 6 1/2 month old Harley...he is doing so well with his potty training, he is hardly ever in his play yard anymore...but if he gets sleepy or scared he heads right to his play yard...thats his den a safe place...he loves it.

I'm not a big fan of the crate...I only use a crate for travel...so I have a doggie play yard...if you don't want your furbaby to have free run of the house maybe you could reconsider and use a play yard instead...so she is not in that crate while your at work all day but still confined and there is enough room for food/water/bed on one side and potty pads on the other side.

I ordered it online from Ebay they come in all sizes...Good luck with you baby.

04-01-2011, 11:28 AM	#16
chachi I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 37,147	If she is potty trained put the crate up during the day. I think she is fearful __________________ Chachi's & Jewels Mom Jewels http://www.dogster.com/?132431 Chachi http://www.dogster.com/?132427

04-01-2011, 11:50 AM	#20
moshes_human Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: North East, Ar. USA Posts: 150	Here is a helpful suggestion Why “Spanking” your dog is wrong! Dog training blog, Austin tx __________________ All creatures great and small,All things wise and wonderful:The Lord God made them all.

04-01-2011, 12:36 PM	#21
smallmans YT Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mesa, Arizona Posts: 313	Just a Thought It's good to hear you spend so much time with your little furbaby. They need lots of love! I would try leaving her crate out where you are with the door open. When she goes in coax her out with a treat. Each time take the treat further and further away from the crate so she has to get farther away from it. Then . . . distract her with a toy. You will need special treats not the usual for this. Bella will do ANYTHING for a small piece of microwaved, plain chicken breast. Cut it super small. Smaller than a pea. When she goes back into the crate, do this again. Soon, she'll associate coming out as being better than staying in. She used to being in there so long that it is her truly safe place. Don't take it personally, she loves you very much, it's just that she has learned that her place is in her crate. You also might want to try leaving her in an ex-pen with her food/water, bed. Bella loves her ex pen. She is very content in it. She doesn't go potty in it because her bed is there and she is trained to only go outside. But, if your furbaby uses pee pads that could go in one side. They are always having them for sale on craigs list. I just couldn't bear the thought of Bella being in a crate while we were at work, so the ex-pen kept us both happy. I'm always happy to help, freel free to send me a pm any time. Bella was our very first dog and I had a lot to learn. The people on this forum were a BIG help and I love sharing everything I've learned. Have a great day!

04-01-2011, 01:32 PM	#24
bellababy08 YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Port St. Lucie, Florida Posts: 1,043	PLEASE PLEASE don't hit your dog with anything...A shape NO will do the trick...the tone change of your voice is all that is needed. People aren't attacking you...all they see is you hitting your furbaby with news paper...and making her fearful of you. And no...your dog doesn't know right from wrong...you have to teach that to her NOT disciplining her with a news paper. Positive Reinforcement and redirecting her attention makes for a much happier and confident pet. Please reconsider your actions. Positive Reinforcement As for the crate...Thats all she knows...its her "safe place" her den...never try and keep her out of it...You say she is a year old now...maybe you could leave the door open a day and night and see how she does with that while your at work and sleeping...if she has no potty accidents...GREAT!! Continue to leave the door open, let her have free run of the house...only way your gonna know if she is truely potty trained is to test her...I have a 6 1/2 month old Harley...he is doing so well with his potty training, he is hardly ever in his play yard anymore...but if he gets sleepy or scared he heads right to his play yard...thats his den a safe place...he loves it. I'm not a big fan of the crate...I only use a crate for travel...so I have a doggie play yard...if you don't want your furbaby to have free run of the house maybe you could reconsider and use a play yard instead...so she is not in that crate while your at work all day but still confined and there is enough room for food/water/bed on one side and potty pads on the other side. I ordered it online from Ebay they come in all sizes...Good luck with you baby. Attached Thumbnails __________________ Jennifer R.I.P Bailey Bella Harley Ivy Baby Milo

04-01-2011, 11:34 AM	#17
toney5 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: new hope, al, us Posts: 10	Gennies and Smallmans Thank you, for at least showing a little understanding and compassion. As I said before, I came here for help. If I had known I would be attacked, that would not have been the case. I love my Yorkie and I want her and us to be a happy family. I do not abuse her. I use a paper when I spank her so I do not hurt her. She is very strong willed and sometimes nothing else works. I do not spank her everytime she needs to be disciplined. She is like my child! She is crated during the day because I work and it is just the two of us. She was crated at night as a way to potty train. I did much research before doing this and it worked. She has always barked when I put her in the crate but research said this was not usual and they would eventually stop doing that. She never did and I just attributed the short period of barking to her strong-will. When she is out of her crate and the crate is put way, she is a happy dog. She is loved and she adores me. We play together, she plays by herself, and she sleeps peacefully on her blanket or in my lap if I sit down. But if she sees the crate, she wants in it and basically refuses to come out. I do not believe it is out of fear or she would not act as she does when it is put away. I was looking for help here. I hate to have to hide her "room". I would like for it to be a safe haven so she can go to it when she wants to rest but also, come out and play normally (like she does if I hide it). I appreciate anyone who might have helpful suggestions but I do not appreciate your criticism of me.

04-01-2011, 11:37 AM	#18
toney5 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: new hope, al, us Posts: 10	Thank you Gennies and Smallmans for at least showing a little understanding and compassion. As I said before, I came here for help. If I had known I would be attacked, that would not have been the case. I love my Yorkie and I want her and us to be a happy family. I do not abuse her. I use a paper when I spank her so I do not hurt her. She is very strong willed and sometimes nothing else works. I do not spank her everytime she needs to be disciplined. She is like my child! She is crated during the day because I work and it is just the two of us. She was crated at night as a way to potty train. I did much research before doing this and it worked. She has always barked when I put her in the crate but research said this was not usual and they would eventually stop doing that. She never did and I just attributed the short period of barking to her strong-will. When she is out of her crate and the crate is put way, she is a happy dog. She is loved and she adores me. We play together, she plays by herself, and she sleeps peacefully on her blanket or in my lap if I sit down. But if she sees the crate, she wants in it and basically refuses to come out. I do not believe it is out of fear or she would not act as she does when it is put away. I was looking for help here. I hate to have to hide her "room". I would like for it to be a safe haven so she can go to it when she wants to rest but also, come out and play normally (like she does if I hide it). I appreciate anyone who might have helpful suggestions but I do not appreciate your criticism of me.

04-01-2011, 11:45 AM	#19
toney5 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: new hope, al, us Posts: 10	Thank you Gennies and Smallmans for at least showing a little understanding and companssion. As I said before, I came here for help. If I had known I would be attacked, that would not have been the case. I love my Yorkie and I want her and us to be a happy family. I do not abuse her. I use a paper when I spank her so I do not hurt her. She is very strong willed and sometimes nothing eles works. I do not spank her everytime she needs to be disciplined. She is like my child! She is crated during the day because I work and it is just the two of us. She was crated at night as a way to potty train. I did much research before doing this and it worked. She has always barked when I put her in the crate but researach saih this was not unusual and they would eventually stop doing that. She never did and I just attributed the short period of barking to her strong-will. When she is out of her crate and the crate is put a way, she is a happy dog. She is loved and she adores me. We play together, she play by herself, and she sleeps peacefully on her blanket or in my lap if I sit down. But if she sees the crate, she wants in it and basically refuses to come out. I do not believe it is out of fear or she would not act as she does when it is put away. I was looking for help here. I hate to have to hide her "room". I would like for it to be a safe haven so she can go to it when she wants to rest but also, come out and play normally (like she does if I hide it). I appreciate anyone who might have helpful suggestions but I do not appreciate your criticism of me!

04-01-2011, 01:00 PM	#23
IsabelleOllie YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Syracuse NY Posts: 1,590	I agree with trying positive reinforcement with treats and LOTS of praise. She needs to learn that it is more fun to be out of the crate playing and spending time with you than it is to be alone.