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03-21-2011, 01:58 PM | #1 |
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| Anyone with ovariectomy spay experience? I've been on this site but never posted. I have 2 Yorkies, a boy and a girl and they make my life complete. I am going to have my little girl spayed and I have been doing a lot of research. She's pretty small so I want to figure out what the best options are for her. Right now I am leaning on the option of doing an ovariectomy (where they just remove the ovaries) as opposed to the traditional spay where they remove both the ovaries and uterus. From what I've read so far, some studies say that this surgery has less post-op recovery time, a smaller incision and less overall trauma to the abdominal cavity. Another study says everything is comparable to a traditional spay. I was really excited when I learned that some vets are even performing these surgeries lathroscopicly but the minimum size is 10 lbs. Has anyone done an ovariectomy spay? Can you tell me your experience with it? Was recovery time less/same/more than traditional spay surgery? Were there any complications? Oye vey...neutering was just so much easier |
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03-21-2011, 04:36 PM | #2 |
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| My furbaby, Belle, had a lathroscopic spay almost two months ago. She weighed 5.5 pounds. I dropped her off in the a.m., and picked her up that afternoon at 4. I never would've guessed she had just been through surgery. She was already back to her loving, energetic self.
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03-21-2011, 04:40 PM | #3 |
Mardelin Yorkshire Terriers Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: California
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| The one think one must be cognizant of is that if not all of the ovarian tissue is removed....she will still experience heat cycles...even though there will be no show of color....she will still swell and boys will still be attracted. So, if this is the method that is being taken, I would go back and have blood drawn for an estrogen count.
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03-21-2011, 05:55 PM | #4 |
Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member | Thank you for bring up this topic. There is a lot of talk going around right now in the US regarding OVE vs OHE. I just did a google search and came up with a lot of good information and very recent studies being done. I encourage others to research this as well if they are interested in learning more.
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03-22-2011, 09:25 AM | #5 |
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| Princess Belle--There are a few vets that do lathroscopic surgery around me but I was told by 2 of them that anything under 10lbs was too small. I really love the idea of the lathroscopic procedure and I am so glad you had a great experience with it. I am going call the other vet and see what they say for the size limit. When you did the lathroscopic spay, did you do the traditional spay? Mardelin--yes but this is also true with traditional ovariohysderectomy (OVH) surgery. If all of the ovarian tissue is not removed it often causes "stump" pyometra and requires a second surgery to go in and clean out the infected area plus search for the remaining bit of ovary. How often would one have to have blood drawn to check for estrogen levels? Thanks Kalina. With daily medical advances and new treatment protocols for people, it would be silly to think these wont eventually have an impact on veterinary care. Lathroscopic surgery, laser surgery, laser therapy stem cell treatment, etc. are examples of the things that have dramatically improved veterinary care over the past few years. I am really excited to see what the future holds. |
03-22-2011, 10:03 AM | #6 |
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| Yes, we had the traditional spay done. There were no complications at all. The incisions were so tiny that they were hardly noticeable. Her appetite, energy, etc. were all back to normal by the time we picked her up that day. Good luck.
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03-22-2011, 10:16 AM | #7 |
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| Pyometra would still be possible this way (even stump pyometra is possible if they don't get all of the uterus). So I don't think it would be something I'd consider.
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03-22-2011, 10:25 AM | #8 | |
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It takes approximately 6 months for all hormones to be expelled by the body. However, if estrogen still remains in the system, a female will exhibit normal Heat Cycle behavior, except the showing of color. Although, this would provide the wonderful benefit of down time for our girls....I will err on the side of caution until it is perfected. Though money isn't a concern when having my girls spayed as long as they are safe. I do wonder if vet's will captilize on this procedure, as some vet's are known to do. I will say that I had laprscopic surgery leaving my ovaries.....and it was the most aganozizing procedure I had experienced. Something that was suppose to be in and out surgery....I ended up staying in the hospital for 7 days.
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03-22-2011, 10:54 AM | #9 | |
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With the traditional spay they have to leave some uterus behind (the part that attaches to the cervix) so if ovarian tissue is not removed this could also result in pyo. Looking at both surgeries, pyo is equally possible with both if the ovarian tissue is not completely removed. Mardelin, what I am being told is that my girl is too small for laparoscopic surgery. She's just over 3 pounds at 12 months old so even if I beefed her up over the next year I don't think she will ever reach the 5 pound mark. They do OVE surgeries via an incision that is smaller compared to the traditional spay because they dont have to worry about removing the uterus. From what I've read, this type of spay is standard in most of Europe. The curious part is that I don't think sterilization is all that prevalent in Europe, right? | |
03-22-2011, 12:57 PM | #10 |
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| So what's the reason for having this surgery? Surely it can't be to shorten the down time, after spay?...My 4 lb. Chorkie had 72 hrs. down time, only, because I kept her away from the yorkies, because she loves to fly around the house, like a bird...At 72 hrs. I cut her lose, and that was it, she was all good...Apple was 5 lbs. @ spay, and I had to stop her from jumping on the couch about a day and a half out of surger...I just watched her, so she wouldn't jump, but in a few days, there was no holding her back...Anyway, back to the reasoning, behind this surgery?...Just nosey lol... |
03-22-2011, 01:49 PM | #11 | |
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I guess the theory is less trauma less pain and recovery time. | |
05-10-2016, 07:48 AM | #12 |
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| I know this is an older thread, but wondering if any members had more recent experiences with an ovariectomy spay? Does anyone have more up-to-date information on benefits or side effects of this? I'm trying to find out if there are options to the traditional spay because I just recently found out about this! Casie has just turned 7 months and I want to spay her when she's a full 8 months...
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05-11-2016, 06:21 AM | #13 | |
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Ovariectomy (OVE) Versus Ovariohysterectomy (OVH) Revisited – Spot Speaks Should You OE Or Should You OHE? - Veterinary Practice News - April 2009 http://www.cliniciansbrief.com/sites...variectomy.pdf | |
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