I think Remy came from a bad breeder:(

[ElainaS]

And are you saying you never received a partial refund on the purchase of Elvis..I have the Paypal email sent to confirm you received it. Should I post that for you also??

And Elvis needed gum treatments? And you sent me information on that too? Where are you sending all this information you claim to have sent. Did you have the right address?

You claim after you received him you emailed on his horrid condition. Here is the email you actually sent me (with no mention of any of your claims you've made).

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From: xxxxxxxx@hotmail.com
To: [xxxxxxxx@hotmail.com[/email]
Subject: RE: Regarding LgPartimale
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 12:24:41 -0700

.ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P{padding:0px;}.ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage{font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana;}Just wanted you to know My aunt got Elvis without issue from the airport I arrived at her house about an hour later and the following night we drove home. Elvis remained timid until last night when he finally got down and ran with the other dogs a minute. He has been on our laps and our little shadow running behind closely since we met him. His timidness with new people and a new environment really express how well he was taken care of and loved by you. I think in about a week he'll be completely adjusted. I was afraid of the introduction process of all the dogs, my schnorkie Scoob, my boyfriends whippet-rhodesian ridge-back Peanut, and our new mini schnauzer Princess Tess who arrived with Elvis, however Tess has shown her dominance to Scoob, Scoob and Elvis are snuggling together already, and Peanut has taken (she's 9 human years old) the new "pups" with a grain of salt and actually began to teach Tess tug of war and is very gentle and actually moves if Elvis is trying to pass her-I think they can all tell Elvis is super mello lap guy. Things are going so much more smoothly than I had imagined, and we could not be happier with Elvis. He's much more beautiful than the pictures give him justice for and his temperament was everything you said it was, he's such a lover. -(SXXXXX CXXXXXXXXX-her name was here but has been xxd out)

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And innumberable other contradictions to your many claims..but enough already, what is the point? You have a right to your vendetta and I do hope that you have all the many documents and paperwork you claim to have received, and sent, and so on...in case you need them in the future. I too have all my records and will certainly hold onto them for future reference.
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I appreciate the YT forum and have referred to it countless times as a new breeder and then later for research and information. It is a great site and thanks for allowing me this avenue to vent and respond.

[concretegurl]

Keep posting please, omit my name and post full actual correspondence.

You failed to omit my name just taking off my last name and listing my maiden name is still very disrespectful stop putting in stuff that's not from me please,
"editing it"

We'll be going to court with the actual full emails, etc. proof of actual payments and what was actually refunded (the replacement pup money).
Unless you moved I have you address etc-same one everything was sent to.

So please keep posting false things...just follow the rules here.

Again I really hope you make use of this site other than to just come here and well do what you are doing...especially since you claim you have refereed it countless times before yet this is your first time posting here.

[ElainaS]

Keep posting please, omit my name and post full actual correspondence.
---No I am done posting, that is your game..do what you do. And as you know, all emails are actual and factual, something you know nothing about.

You failed to omit my name just taking off my last name and listing my maiden name is still very disrespectful stop putting in stuff that's not from me please,
"editing it"

Not sure what you mean, I don't even know your maiden name, and if it was left in somewhere, it was by mistake. I have tried to omit your name all all repost, per your request. And I have not "edited" anything other than removing your name and personal info from the post, again at your request. You KNOW these are the actual emails and most I cannot post in their entirety because of the length of most of your emails and the irrelevance of most of the info in them. I'm am sure the YT readers do not want to be bored to all the extra garbage in them, but only that which applies to this post.

We'll be going to court with the actual full emails, etc. proof of actual payments and what was actually refunded (the replacement pup money).
Unless you moved I have you address etc-same one everything was sent to.

Again with the threats..Hopefully, this time you mean it. At this point, I can only say one thing.....BRING IT!! I welcome the opportunity to respond to all these issues in a formal unbiased arena and prove you to be the liar that you are. And yes i have all my emails and information as well (thank god) as well as the my paypal statements that show just what you received and when. And yes, all my information is the same.

So please keep posting false things...just follow the rules here.
Again I really hope you make use of this site other than to just come here and well do what you are doing...especially since you claim you have refereed it countless times before yet this is your first time posting here.

I also hope you find a better use for the site, as I stated earlier. I have every right to come here and defend myself against your false statements, just as you have the right to make them. And NO, I have NEVER posted anything here but as I said used the site for information and learning...I had not used this site however, in a few years and had no idea what my previous id and password were, thus I set up a new account to respond to your allegations. It was that simple. Elaina Shelborne

[Wylie's Mom]

Please note: YT does not support the use of religious commentary when used as a direct or insinuated remark about or towards another member. Religion cannot be used as a weapon here at YT. Thank you.

[Sugar's Mom]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

Defamation is only for lying or, it can be if you say something you just believe or have no actual proof of about someone. But, I'd love for Elaina to attempt to or to sue me...it might change my mind about putting out the expenses for the attorney, honestly I let it all go because it seemed so daunting when I had a sick dog and the initial vet bills for the ER visits and testing were literally in the thousands...I should have followed through with suing...especially after the whole mess of the contract and the replacement pup that she offered, talked me into them changed her mind, and oh ye it was all a big mess...I still have 2 more years to do so...

Luckily I saved and I have over 30 pages of emails between she and I ; I really thought I had found a good breeder we corresponded for about 4 months I think it was before I got Elvis, the original sales listing for him, and copies of her original web site, and a paper trail of Elvis' medical needs, he's seen 5 vets since being with me to get multiple opinions and testing, ER vet visits etc, including the 48 vet check showing the condition he arrived in, I really wished I had recorded her phone calls with me but that would have been illegal....

There also are the numerous complaints already listed with the AKC, animal control, and actually the air port he was sent out of took pictures and noted Elain attempted to send him is such a small kennel they refused to allow it-she had to purchase one that didn't force him to lay down-they notated it and I received the report later...I had no idea until I received the report from the kennel. I paid an extra fee to have a contracting kennel care for my dog as I did have him shipped from DE to TX then TX to CA...I'll never do that again...not just because the ship issues but buying across state lines is a mess if something goes wrong!

Finally!!!!!!!!!! Someone that knows the law on defamation and knows that it is not okay to come on here and post gossip and lies. Concrete girl, I hope you and whoever this other person is gets this resolved.

[ElainaS]

YES, it is good to know the exact definition of a word....but it means NOTHING if you are only able to recite it and DO NOT practice it. She has posted many false statements or things she believes to be true, and some she can't possibly believe, but has made up only to strengthen her argument and appear the victim. For what does it mean to know, but then not adhere to your own knowledge?? She is very good at quoting definitions and legalities as I have found but unfortunately, is not at all adverse to falsifying statements, misrepresenting the facts and stretching the truth for her own means. So again..knowing the definition does not mean a whole lot in some cases. But yes, it is good to know it.

[gidget529]

Lorraine, I am fairly new to this site and this is the first time I saw the link to your site. Your dogs are absolutely beautiful! Too bad people don't find this site sooner before they purchase a pup. There are so many good breeders on this site with beautiful dogs!

[Teegy]

Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

Sorry for all the typos everyone. I'm testing out my new iPod, and I haven't gotten the hang of it.

You can access YT on your ipod hey that's awesome. Technology isn't it amazing.

I was thinking to day that cadbury's should make creme Yorkies, I love my munchkin and just wanna eat him, this would let me accomplish that. hahahahha.
Just had to lighten the tone on this post, sorry

[ElainaS]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

Defamation is only for lying or, it can be if you say something you just believe or have no actual proof of about someone.

But, I'd love for Elaina to attempt to or to sue me...it might change my mind about putting out the expenses for the attorney, honestly I let it all go because it seemed so daunting when I had a sick dog and the initial vet bills for the ER visits and testing were literally in the thousands...I should have followed through with suing...especially after the whole mess of the contract and the replacement pup that she offered, talked me into them changed her mind, and oh ye it was all a big mess...I still have 2 more years to do so...

Luckily I saved and I have over 30 pages of emails between she and I ; I really thought I had found a good breeder we corresponded for about 4 months I think it was before I got Elvis, the original sales listing for him, and copies of her original web site, and a paper trail of Elvis' medical needs, he's seen 5 vets since being with me to get multiple opinions and testing, ER vet visits etc, including the 48 vet check showing the condition he arrived in, I really wished I had recorded her phone calls with me but that would have been illegal....

There also are the numerous complaints already listed with the AKC, animal control, and actually the air port he was sent out of took pictures and noted Elain attempted to send him is such a small kennel they refused to allow it-she had to purchase one that didn't force him to lay down-they notated it and I received the report later...I had no idea until I received the report from the kennel. I paid an extra fee to have a contracting kennel care for my dog as I did have him shipped from DE to TX then TX to CA...I'll never do that again...not just because the ship issues but buying across state lines is a mess if something goes wrong!

Please do attempt to Sue me..I keep reading it and I am looking forward to it, as you have told so many lies on this site that my head is spinning..I did indeed offer you a replacement pup, and did not ship (the puppy i supposedly had to talk you into accepting, and elsewhere on this site you claim to have refused because it might be ill too, which is it?) because as i stated you never followed through with the documentation tho i see you have made multiple statements on this site claiming to have sent me additional paperwork and having proof with a UPS tracking number (which i have asked you to send or post here) and claim to have pics i sent of mommies in cages (which I never sent and i've also asked you to send me or post here) and you have not, because they don't exist. You told me you would not be taking him to a specialist for some time due to vet telling you he needed to be stabilized, etc before more testing, yet you wanted me to send the puppy and would furnish paperwork later. This is why the change, no other reason as you are well aware.

As for this posting of multiple complaints with AKC, and Animal Control, I will be contacting both to see just what you might be referring to..and as for the last statement about the airport situation, complete LIE, as you know I am the one who informed you that I had to get a larger kennel because when he stood his ears were touching the top and could not send him in his regular kennel that he was used to sleeping in at night. I paid an addtl $95 and had him shipped no problem, but made you aware of this myself, not any airline attendant and you did not have him kenneled as I shipped him to you in Sacramento (actually to your Aunts in her name as you stated she lived 5 mins from the airport) as you requested as she was picking him up for you remember, or where you lying to me about this? And you drove down to her that night..So how did he get to TX and you have to kennel him if he was shipped to CA?? Reading your post you are now stating he went to TX, was kennel independently and they later sent you pictures?? More BS!!! So many lies, I am loosing track. And yes I have all my emails and information and will be contacting various authorities you claim to have information from. In your threats you claimed to have taped all our calls as well, now I wish you had though now you're saying you only wish you had, "but that would have been illegal" so which is it? Your entire last paragraph is a total LIE from beginning to end. The only true state you've made above is that his initial vet check found evidence of some pinworms. That is true as I saw the vet report. This I admit and took full responsibility for (and never blamed you or your dogs as you've posted on this forum also). And I believe he must have Epilepsy tho this was inconclusive that last time we spoke..Every other statement is a complete and total fabrication!!! Every one.

And based on all the false statements you've made and posted all over the internet, I should be the one suing you!!! And if not for the time, aggravation and expense I would be doing just that...though believe me, I have not ruled out the possibility either. So again, please do and save me the trouble.

[KendraE]

wow...thats was alot of reading!! I hope ya'll can resolve everything. Please do share the ultiment outcome and good luck

[SophieandZiggy]

I hope everything worked out okay!

[concretegurl]

Ultimate outcome do NOT get a dog from Elaina Shelborne.

She will not respond to me other than to pst lies here-I'm not going to sue her it would cost me more in court...I hope she does start litigation against me I'd be motivated to have the truth come out in court and take a flight to Delaware...

I LOVE Elvis he's the best dog ever but he came from two disreputable Greeders.

[concretegurl]

Shelborne's Yorkies

Despite editing and removal of most of the "telling" pictures...don't go there anyways.