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02-23-2011, 12:01 PM | #1 |
YorkieTalk Newbie! Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: north carolina
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| help-questions about Yorkie pup and crates Thinking about getting a Yorkie pup for my daughters. Breeder has already started crating them (they are only 2 wks old). She will release them at about 7 weeks. My husband and I work, so we will have to crate her for 8-9 hrs per day. Is this ok? For the first few weeks I could come home at lunch time and let her out, but I couldn't do that indefinately. so maybe my question is more like- can I leave her for 4hrs, let her out at lunch, and then again when we get home at 5pm? And, will she begin to expect this as she gets older, b/c like I said, I can't come home for lunch forever! thank you! Renee |
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02-23-2011, 12:07 PM | #2 |
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| I think I already answered your question in another one of your threads but I'll repost here First off, it concerns me that your breeder is letting her pups go at 6 to 7 weeks of age. That is WAY too young to be let go from their mother and litter mates, puppies should stay with them til about 12 weeks of age. As for crate training, 9 hours is a very long time to be away from a brand new puppy. You have to remember, their bladders are very tiny and need to go more frequently. As they get older they have better bladder control and can hold it for more hours but as babies they don't have this control. Also yorkies are prone to hypoglycemia and it would worry me that if not fed for 9 hours, your baby could go into shock and would be alone Puppies that are crate trained need a strict schedule and I can't image being able to stay on schedule while being gone for 9 hours, but I could be wrong! Do you have a neighbor or family member that could check on him each day? I don't mean to scare you but puppies really need a lot of attention. Now that mine is almost 11 months, I actually had to resort back to crate training since he relapsed, but I'm able to leave him for 8 hours if I have to bc he has bladder control. I still go take him out every 4 hours but if necessary he could hold it for 8. I would just do some research on yorkie puppies, I'm no expert, but they really need a lot of time and attention at their age, ESPECIALLY if your breeder gives you the pup at 6 or 7 weeks! I would seriously ask her if she could keep your baby a bit longer, best of luck to you!!
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02-23-2011, 12:10 PM | #3 | |
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I ditto this post completely!!! Good luck!! An X pen could work for longer periods of times, instead of a crate! You could put potty pad on one side, food, water, toys and bed on the other. Yorkie babies need a LOT of attention however!! Good luck!!
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02-23-2011, 12:25 PM | #4 |
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| thank you both for the replies! How about if I came home for lunch (around 4 hr mark)? I could do that for a little while but not indefinately. At what age would it be reasonable to expect her to hold it for 8hrs? I thought about the wee wee pads and a enclosed gate (xpen?), but I would like that to be a temporary solution until she is able to hold her pee/poop for 8 hrs-even in an xpen. What would happen if I eventually took the wee wee pads away? I know, lots of questions, but my kids (and me too honestly) are so excited about getting this little dog and I want to make sure we are making the right decision |
02-23-2011, 12:28 PM | #5 |
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| That's way too young to leave mama (IMO) not a good breeder...sign of many bad things to come all too often... 12-14 weeks is when reputable breeders send them home. Crates are for sleeping-NOT CAGING! Get a large play pen or gate off a smaller area that has a play area, food area, and potty area and a sleeping area (bed) in it like a 4x4 -(I'd go 6x6) because you need a potty zone away from the bed and food-a smaller area can be used after have established potty training and it can be removed form the play pen. hmmm totally unrelated other than this thread just came up and it's too cute so here's an idea of an area like that, but this is for a dog already potty trained and being attended to...they need a place to potty and if not you are setting them and you up for failure and a horrible situation. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/my-...ke-reesie.html <<<this plus potty area. I personally have a Best Pet soft sided play pen in a medium, a large would be better but the "gates" are safer if you are not home (the one picture on my profile page). Potty place, a potty pad washable or disposable, a litter box, a potty patch, or grid system...something! Goodluck and Welcome to YT! Last edited by concretegurl; 02-23-2011 at 12:32 PM. |
02-23-2011, 12:39 PM | #6 |
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| so you think I could start out with a pen and place wee wee pads in there and then eventually be able to take them away once she is able to hold it for 8hrs? |
02-23-2011, 12:51 PM | #7 |
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| The xpen is the only way to go for working people unless you have an extra room don't expect babies to be able to hold for 8 hrs use pee pads so she/he can relieve themselves as needed...and leave food & water at all times
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02-23-2011, 12:51 PM | #8 | |
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They are one option but the video speaks volumes, along with the number of people here realizing how hard it is to potty train Yorkies-I'm home all the time or they go with me and it was still hard...and notice it's an adult Yorkie pictured on the homepage-could be coincidences... I wanted to note I use crates here, for sleeping at bed time in my room-we don't even close doors they just have beds insides crates (I use large crates for small dogs) and a play pen for the day time when we are not home, or just need them to go in there. But Yorkies especially are a HUGE commitment and take a lot of effort, evaluate if you are up for it all together...then post pictures of the new pup on here! | |
02-23-2011, 12:52 PM | #9 |
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| Yikes! That whole thing would scare me to death! First of all how young the pup is and second that it would be unattended for hours at a time. Hypoglycemia would be a real possibility and some die from that alone!! You must be a brave woman!! |
02-23-2011, 12:57 PM | #10 |
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| I just want to add, like someone else already said, yorkies are very attention-loving dogs who will follow you EVERYWHERE (don't expect to ever go to the bathroom alone again haha) and who crave human contact, especially yours. I just would feel so bad for a new puppy who is left alone for 9 hours a day everyday Will your girls be home at all during the day to play with them since you wanted to get the puppy for them? I agree with another post, maybe its best you get an older dog so you don't have to worry about the hypoglycemia or that is already potty trained, although they still need/crave attention too
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02-23-2011, 12:57 PM | #11 |
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| I wouldn't say brave, just ignorant. That's why I posted up here. We really want to get her, but I want to make sure we are making the right decision. I have heard many success stories too with pups being alone for 8hrs. I think I can get the breeder to keep her until 8 or 9 wks old. That combined with maybe using wee wee pads until she can hold it 8hrs may be the best solution. I just would like to be able to take the wee wee pads away at some point in time. |
02-23-2011, 12:59 PM | #12 |
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| oh and also combined with coming home at lunch time for the first month or so Is that a better combo for those of you out there gasping? |
02-23-2011, 01:04 PM | #13 | |
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Yorkshire Terrier - Hypoglycemia
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02-23-2011, 01:17 PM | #14 |
Phantom Queen Morrigan Donating Member | Honestly I would walk away from this breeder and look for a pup elsewhere. I know everyone is excited to get a puppy but you're asking for trouble. I would be terrified to leave a 7-9 week old puppy home alone for 4 -8 hours a day. Yorkie pups are tiny and need to be monitored to make sure they are eating, otherwise they can suffer from hypoglycemia which then can lead to seizures and death if not treated immediately. Pee and poop in the crate is the least of your worries at that age. Puppies need to go potty when they wake up, after they eat, after they play, and whenever they feel like it. I brought my yorkie pup home at 13 weeks old and she weighed 1lb 15oz. I took off from work for 2 weeks to make sure she would be ok away from her mother and siblings at her size, to bond with her and get her on a feeding/potty schedule. I used a crate and an ex-pen for training with no potty pads. She didn't like to use them so i just took her outside from the very beginning. After the first 2 weeks I went back to work but would come home on my lunch hour to take her out, feed her, play with her, and then take her out again. So at 15 weeks she was able to hold it those 4 hours while i was away. That's double the age of the pup you want to bring home. Do yourself and your children a big favor and do not buy from this "breeder". Go to Yorkshire Terrier Club of America and look for breeders in your area. There are also threads here on YT with guidelines for buying a new puppy. There are several red flags to look for and letting puppies go before at least 10 weeks old is a big one. Puppies should stay with their mothers and siblings until 12 weeks old to learn social behaviors and manners.
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