help-questions about Yorkie pup and crates

[TexasKat08]

Originally Posted by nurserenee

I wouldn't say brave, just ignorant. I would agree. That's why I posted up here. We really want to get her, but I want to make sure we are making the right decision. I pray to God that this is true! I have heard many success stories too with pups being alone for 8hrs. What breed? Not yorkies! I think you are reading between the lines and only hearing what you want to hear. I think I can get the breeder to keep her until 8 or 9 wks old. You think you can GET the breeder to keep her until 8 or 9 weeks? Ma'am you should be asking her (and yourself) why she is trying to place this pup at 7 weeks! That is when it gets expensive and a lot of work because mom is paying less attention - food, shots, cleaning up puppy messes, etc. That combined with maybe using wee wee pads until she can hold it 8hrs may be the best solution. That won't be for months, if ever! I just would like to be able to take the wee wee pads away at some point in time.

Would you leave a baby in a crib by itself all day with maybe a bottle or two, hoping it would figure out how to take care of itself? Maybe a puppy isn't exactly the same thing, but even a 12 week old yorkie puppy is too fragile to be left alone for hours on end, even in an x-pen. A crate would be down right cruel and I am shocked that you might think this is an option. Perhaps a yorkie is not the breed for you. I get it - they are cute, you and your kids are excited, but I would find it incredibly selfish of you to bring a 7 WEEK OLD PUPPY into this situation. Please, please, please do your research before you make this decision. No REPUTABLE and good breeder would EVER allow a YORKIE puppy to leave their home at 7 weeks. In fact, it is possible that it is illegal for her to allow her puppies to leave before 8 weeks. Your kids are too young to know the care and expense of taking care of a toy breed dog. Their only concern is how CUTE she is! I get it, I have a daughter who is just like them! I know I should apologize for ranting and perhaps you think I am being harsh, but I love this little breed - as do the majority of the posters here - and am passionate about ensuring their safety and security by educating potential owners such as yourself. I would hate for your next post to be in the sick and injured thread . . . which is the likely outcome if you follow through with this.

[TexasKat08]

Originally Posted by Yorkiedaze

I don't think she's going to come back! I'M AFRAID YOU ARE RIGHT. I pray she doesn't get any poor little dog. It just isn't the right home for one. AGREED!

These posts just make me sick to my stomach. I hope she is willing to look past her excitement over getting this tiny little girl and see that it is just not reasonable. People can be so impulsive and it is hard to ignore that little tug at your heart once you have gotten interested in a puppy.

[nurserenee]

I DID come back and in fact have considered ALL of your posts (harsh, derogatory, and informative ones). Thank you to those of you who were informative and kind in your opinions. That is the reason I came here- to get opinions and thoughts- not to be "yelled" at and my responsibility and humanity to be questioned. I am the type of person that researches anything before I purchase or participate in and not some lady who is just "giddy" to get her children a .

I have thought about this since posting here for the first time and have talked with my husband. Many of you will be glad to know that I am not going to get this Yorkie. I would love for the breeder to keep her until at least 12-14 wks old and then I MAY (key word there) consider, but I doubt she will agree to it.

Thanks again for your response and should a enter our lives at a later time, I will be sure to come back.
thanks!

[kalina82]

glad to hear you have decided not to get the pup.

when the time comes that you find you are all ready for that puppy please go to a reputable breeder. check the breed clubs and do your homework.

[Ellie May]

It sounds like a Yorkie pup isn't right for your family, but what about an adult? Forgot how old your kids are, but as long as they are old enough to know how to treat small dogs, I really don't see a problem with it. If you are going to be gone all day you would probably need to do the pee pad and xpen thing. Most dogs (including Yorkies) will do fine while their owners are at work and school. But when you come home in the evening, they desperately need love and attention, exercise, training, etc. I'd never let having a job stop me from getting a dog as long as I worked reasonable hours. I would, however, let it stop me from getting a puppy who needs quite a bit more direction and supervision if I thought it would be in danger or unsocialized.

My girl is alone for 30ish hours a week. While I don't like it, I also don't think it's wrong. She gets plenty of attention when I am home...

[Ringo1]

Oh, I feel for you. I allowed my son to 'choose' our Westie, Ringo. He was 10 years old. I researched and was concerned about the 'high activity' requirements of a Westie; their 'high energy' tempremant and their exercise requirements. I mentioned my concerns a lot.

But my son was having none of it. Of course, he did not follow through on all the promises to walk, run, and play with the dog! He did ~ when it was convenient for him but if all the kids were out playing ~ forget it.

The first year of Ringo's life was not great; I was working too much and he was spending waaay too much time in his crate. He was very hard to handle and didn't seem to like us all that much.

We eventually enrolled him in Agility - which he loved and helped us to bond (dare I say he was so much work initially that I didn't like him much either??)

My job turned into a work from home job and that made things so much easier; I had time to give him the walks he needed AND to go to the agility training. My son is now 15 and it's still me who does all the caretaking because he's never home!

Just be sure that any dog fits in with your lifestyle; otherwise, they will just add more work to your life and you won't enjoy them.

I, too, like the idea of an older yorkie with your schedule. Best of luck and make no mistake ~ all the work of the dog will be yours.

[concretegurl]

Originally Posted by nurserenee

I DID come back and in fact have considered ALL of your posts (harsh, derogatory, and informative ones). Thank you to those of you who were informative and kind in your opinions. That is the reason I came here- to get opinions and thoughts- not to be "yelled" at and my responsibility and humanity to be questioned. I am the type of person that researches anything before I purchase or participate in and not some lady who is just "giddy" to get her children a .

I have thought about this since posting here for the first time and have talked with my husband. Many of you will be glad to know that I am not going to get this Yorkie. I would love for the breeder to keep her until at least 12-14 wks old and then I MAY (key word there) consider, but I doubt she will agree to it.

Thanks again for your response and should a enter our lives at a later time, I will be sure to come back.
thanks!

I' m sorry you feel as you stated...many people mean what they say out of love of Yorkies, and passions on such run high...hopefully you can understand that and take what they offered to say as "heated advice" from those who really know...we all started out knowing nothing and getting our first Yorkie...even when people say you can't do this because...you should focus on the because and see if you can modify or change that-most people seem to be utmost concerned with the idea of a dog being kenneled for so long (that is cruel confinement) and the amount of time you stated as this breed really is attention requiring...not known for being good with children, but those issue would apply to just about any breed-kenneling and amount of time for attention.

Yes considering an older dog (even Yorkie) might be a much better choice for you but I hope you also take the time to do a lot of breed research and see what many people learned the hard way or learned all together-like never use a collar (with leash) on a Yorkie because of a collapsing trachea-hypoglycemia can happen at any time actually., they are harder to potty train than other breeds, oh I could go on so much but there's so much to know and consider even for an older Yorkie...and I'm still a newbie here to learn more-hope to see you around here researching in the future and posting any questions you have!

[dawn27]

Originally Posted by nurserenee

I DID come back and in fact have considered ALL of your posts (harsh, derogatory, and informative ones). Thank you to those of you who were informative and kind in your opinions. That is the reason I came here- to get opinions and thoughts- not to be "yelled" at and my responsibility and humanity to be questioned. I am the type of person that researches anything before I purchase or participate in and not some lady who is just "giddy" to get her children a .

I have thought about this since posting here for the first time and have talked with my husband. Many of you will be glad to know that I am not going to get this Yorkie. I would love for the breeder to keep her until at least 12-14 wks old and then I MAY (key word there) consider, but I doubt she will agree to it.

Thanks again for your response and should a enter our lives at a later time, I will be sure to come back.
thanks!

WOW.... You sure took a lot of crap from some people, Sorry that some people feel entitle to voice there opinions in such a harsh way! Not everyone is like that. I'm fairly new to Yorkie Talk but not to raising Yorkies. Had my first one at age 14 and we bought our first family addition (a standard / not a whee little one ) when my kids were just 1 and 9 yrs old. I love the breed and I'll be damned if anyone would have talked me out of getting one just because of the age of my kids or other wise. Yorkies range in many sizes. You may want to consider finding a larger size one if you think that may be a concern with your children being participants in the care taking of the pup. Which they most certainly should be, it teaches them responsibility ! As long as you teach them how to care for and how to handle any "puppy" any breed properly it shouldn't be an issue.
Your concerns should be with the breeder and the age of the Yorkie not the Breed itself !! Keep looking for that right Yorkie breeder and just the right one for your family.

[concretegurl]

Most people didn't give her a lot of C%$# over getting a Yorkie-it was over the idea of kenneling for way too long and for having a limited amount of time to spend training, caring for, and generally paying attention to the anticipated edition...but yes...passions ran high here...often they do for good cause: cruel confinement & lack of attention.

I too have kids they were here before my Yorkie(s) but I think we all know they are not generally good for homes with kids...you have to have very well trained kids...Elvis my purebred Yorkie is actually my 11 year old daughter's dog...Scoobers my Schnorkie (1/2 Yorkie 1/2 Mini schnauzer) is my 6 year old son's dog...princess my Miniature Schnauzer is now my BF's dog...but I'm home all the time now and I took on the majority of their care and I wanted the dogs, didn't just get them for the kids...wait a minute I need a Yorkie for me!

Originally Posted by dawn27

WOW.... You sure took a lot of crap from some people, Sorry that some people feel entitle to voice there opinions in such a harsh way! Not everyone is like that. I'm fairly new to Yorkie Talk but not to raising Yorkies. Had my first one at age 14 and we bought our first family addition (a standard / not a whee little one ) when my kids were just 1 and 9 yrs old. I love the breed and I'll be damned if anyone would have talked me out of getting one just because of the age of my kids or other wise. Yorkies range in many sizes. You may want to consider finding a larger size one if you think that may be a concern with your children being participants in the care taking of the pup. Which they most certainly should be, it teaches them responsibility ! As long as you teach them how to care for and how to handle any "puppy" any breed properly it shouldn't be an issue.
Your concerns should be with the breeder and the age of the Yorkie not the Breed itself !! Keep looking for that right Yorkie breeder and just the right one for your family.

[KazzyK810]

Originally Posted by dawn27

WOW.... You sure took a lot of crap from some people, Sorry that some people feel entitle to voice there opinions in such a harsh way! Not everyone is like that. I'm fairly new to Yorkie Talk but not to raising Yorkies.

I hear ya on that score. It's a pity members aren't rated by others, maybe then newbies would know to ignore them, and wouldn't be subjected to the endless ramblings of some of the posters on here that seem to hijack threads.

[smallmans]

I would suggest you wait to have a Yorkie. You are asking a breed that requires a GREAT deal of people interaction to spend hours alone in a crate.
Puppies need to be socialized and loved. These dogs are like "human infants" when they are younger than 1 year. It would be really sad to have a little puppy left alone so many hours of the day. There are so many issues to consider, hypoglycemia, potty training, etc. A dog needs to be a priority. Don't mean to sound harsh, but this breed is not typical.

[concretegurl]

I don't think that comment was for me, but the person it was for was more than giving out good advice...politely perhaps no but.

Good point!
There should be a rating system on here so when people make comments like "ye sure it's fine to leave a pup home alone in a crate for 8 hours a day...a dog too-no no it's not cruel confinement, and oh btw Yorkies are a great idea for getting a dog for kids-weather the adult is going to be responsible for them or not"...those who actually know better can rate those comments appropriately...

Shoot, I'm hijacking the thread now...Sorry! I just wanted to point out that was a really good ideal to have a rating system here...and why...

Originally Posted by KazzyK810

I hear ya on that score. It's a pity members aren't rated by others, maybe then newbies would know to ignore them, and wouldn't be subjected to the endless ramblings of some of the posters on here that seem to hijack threads.

[TexasKat08]

Originally Posted by concretegurl

I don't think that comment was for me, but the person it was for was more than giving out good advice...politely perhaps no but. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the comments were directed at me, and that's fine.

Good point!
There should be a rating system on here so when people make comments like "ye sure it's fine to leave a pup home alone in a crate for 8 hours a day...a dog too-no no it's not cruel confinement, and oh btw Yorkies are a great idea for getting a dog for kids-weather the adult is going to be responsible for them or not"...those who actually know better can rate those comments appropriately...

Shoot, I'm hijacking the thread now...Sorry! I just wanted to point out that was a really good ideal to have a rating system here...and why...

I'm fairly new here, so it still surprises me that posters will get indignant when they come on this site, that is inundated with members who feel so passionately about the safety and security of this special breed, and make statements that clearly show they have done little to no research about the Yorkie as a breed and as a pet. This poster in particular really bothered me. IMO, you don't have to do ANY research to know that locking a puppy in a crate for 9 hours a day is a bad idea. It is common sense! And, for the record, I really don't believe that the OP is taking anybody's advice about getting an older yorkie, or using an x-pen vs. a crate, or ANY of the other advice given. I would bet dollars to donuts she is planning on bringing that 7 week old puppy home. Again, all just my opinions.

[butterfly]

I agree that it is too young to be taken from a mother. I guess some breeders just want to 'turn them out'.

That plastic pen is really cute, I use an xpen and really love it.

I only use a crate at nite. Would never think of leaving mine in there during the day, almost seems cruel. Plus, they would hate it and cry all night if left in there all day too.

[Charlie_Boy]

We got our Charlie at 8 weeks old and he should of been older! 2 days after being home he got very sick with Parvo and Coccidia. After two months of LOTS of vet bills, LOTS of tlc he survived. He is almost 5 months old he weighs about 2.2lbs and his eating still isn't very good. Have to be careful with him he had 2 seizure's. So just be careful and maybe the breeder would consider keeping them abit longer??
Charlie just about a month now no longer goes to the bathroom in his crate. I'm home with him but he sleeps in his crate at night and if I have to leave the house in the day. He can hold it about 4 1/2 hours...So I have to get up with him once to take him out. He does very well in the day. I hung bells on our door and he will ring the bells to go outside.
Good luck with your new little one!