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concretegurl · 12-26-2010, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kjcmsw

They are going out on a limited registration. I didn't want to neuter them as a breeder looked at them for me and said the one boy was definitely a potential and not to do neuter at this time in case he doesn't sell as a breeder might want him down the line/try to hold on to him, so I'm attempting to sell the other first.
I suppose one could design their own version of a breeding rights contract, the only ones I've seen are too one sided to me (side for the breeder) to be ethical, thus I wasn't going to get into that.
Trucker: I told him to go home (well to his daughter & son-in-laws as he's from the mid west and is visiting for the holidays) and think about it carefully as two pups on the road might be difficult (he owns the business apparently and only drives part of the time) and if he was still interested we could meet again next week, figured I could analyze the situation better (I didn't totally close the door, but I think he saw I had my doubts)
We'll see.
Thanks
Kendra

Really? You feel too one sided in creating a typical spay neuter contract, thus letting just anyone whom adopts a pup from you breed them?

If I was a breeder I'd be so paranoid I'd have em all fixed before adoption, or they'd be going to breeders specifically. to avoid BYBredding, bad breeding, one of mine becoming a random cages pinning in circles matted mess creating pup mill sales...just sayin' that would be my concern-one sided for the care of the life I chose to create...a

A potential breeding pup is just that a potential whom should be placed in a kennel that has experience or like one of my dog heavily contracted by the kennel to the adopted protecting all breedign rights and only placed with someone who is trusted not to breed and to adhere to the contract...

I don't wan to sound rude but I think it is this I don't wan to be rude situation that opens the door for animal abuse in breeding practices all too much.
Ye, the trucker, two pups at once from the same litter-hmmm that's a horrid idea-tons of threads on the topic here about that...did you refer him to here?

kjcmsw · 12-26-2010, 09:48 AM

Really? You feel too one sided in creating a typical spay neuter contract, thus letting just anyone whom adopts a pup from you breed them? This is a good example of how good a contract is...is it read? What I said was: the contracts I have seen were too one sided. There's no point in having a contract that won't hold up in court, and one side contracts simply do not hold up, and nothing ticks a judge off more than having to basically "rewrite" the contract in verbiage. Judges aren't please with any appearance of a seller taking advantage of a buyer. All contracts must be fair and equitable to both sides (a moralist POV to be sure, but legal all the same), but that's better reserved for 1L's in Contract law.

If I was a breeder I'd be so paranoid I'd have em all fixed before adoption, or they'd be going to breeders specifically. to avoid BYBredding, bad breeding, one of mine becoming a random cages pinning in circles matted mess creating pup mill sales...just sayin' that would be my concern-one sided for the care of the life I chose to create...a I believe I did express my worries and concerns.

A potential breeding pup is just that a potential whom should be placed in a kennel that has experience or like one of my dog heavily contracted by the kennel to the adopted protecting all breedign rights and only placed with someone who is trusted not to breed and to adhere to the contract...I believe I expressed my due diligence in interviewing potential buyers. I also believe I expressed that's why I'm holding on to the one pup for a while longer. Nothing would please me more than to find a YT member or some person with the same passion and love for animals to buy one of my pups, but alas I don't believe there aren't a lot of YT members living in my area that are currently looking for a male Yorkie puppy nor do I support air cargo shipping, thus I don't have that option.

I don't wan to sound rude but I think it is this I don't wan to be rude situation that opens the door for animal abuse in breeding practices all too much. I don't think you're being rude, rather you don't fully understand the situation and didn't read carefully what I said.
Ye, the trucker, two pups at once from the same litter-hmmm that's a horrid idea-tons of threads on the topic here about that...did you refer him to here?I probably would have but he initially took me by surprise. Recovering from that surprise I (as expressed) regained control of the situation and responded in kind.
Thanks.
Kendra

EmmaPeel · 12-26-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma

On 12/18/10, Jodi <> wrote:
Hi Tiffany,
I am interested in your puppies. Could you send me pictures and
More information on the parents, testing done, price, location, size of
parent, size of puppies.....................
Thanks
Jodi
In a perfect world, every dog would have a home and every home would have a dog

From: Tiffany <>
To: Jodi <>
Cc:
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 10:18:32 AM
Subject: Re: puppies
Hello,
Thanks for the e-mail.My Yorkie puppies are still available for adoption. they are Called Lina and Lino,they are health registered and current on all shots and vaccines,they have a good temperament especially with kids.they are 9 Weeks old each,SO i am strictly concern about who will be taking them home because i love them so much to a fault that they are like my own children and part of my family,so you giving me your words of keeping them and providing them with all n their needs and of all treat them like your own children and part of your family ,then i shall from my heart give them to you with no doubts, In guiding me look for a lovely home for these puppies ,i will strictly like to know the following from you: Do you have kids? Where are you located(State/city)? If so, are they good with pets? If Not then Do you have some one that will always play with them? Have you ever raised (Owned) puppies before? Do you Own Other Pets? How is your Working Schedule? Are you getting them For your Self or for Some one Else? Do you own a house if so Do you have something like a playground (Back Yard)where you can take the puppies to play on? If not then is there some where like a A Park Near Your Home Where You can take them On Short Walks? Do you want to Breed them? How Soon Do you Want them? Will you like shipping,If applicable? Sorry for too many questions but I will be happy to get these details from you so that it can guard me in making a manual which the puppies can take along which will guard you on basics of taking care of them and also basics on feeding if you are having a Yorkie for the first time.Get back if interested in taking Lina and Lino home.
I Wait to Hear From you ASAP

TOTALLY a foreign person typing in broken English...dead giveaway.

megansmomma · 12-26-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by EmmaPeel

TOTALLY a foreign person typing in broken English...dead giveaway.

I believe they use a translation program.

megansmomma · 12-26-2010, 03:05 PM

concretegurl and kjcmsw~maybe you could start a thread in the breeder forum about the issue that you are discussing. You might get a wider range of opinions if your conversation was not buried within this thread.

capt_noonie · 12-26-2010, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma

concretegurl and kjcmsw~maybe you could start a thread in the breeder forum about the issue that you are discussing. You might get a wider range of opinions if your conversation was not buried within this thread.

Yeah, the OP is kindly asking you two not to go OT.

Jodi, did you ever get the ok to post who this YTer is/was? I'm sure they would have been banned or wiped out of history completely by now?

roseslevi · 12-26-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarmamma

Jo-di....jo-di.......jo-di :d

Great work! Thank you.

megansmomma · 12-26-2010, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by capt_noonie

Yeah, the OP is kindly asking you two not to go OT.

Jodi, did you ever get the ok to post who this YTer is/was? I'm sure they would have been banned or wiped out of history completely by now?

No they are still a member but I am not sure why

concretegurl · 12-27-2010, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma

No they are still a member but I am not sure why

Why do you need permission to post their YT user name? I'm confused as to why that's an issue did I miss something in the rules? since they were offering the sale of a pup and later it turned out to be a scam especially why would there be any issue here with YT rules?

lil fu fu girl · 12-27-2010, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by megansmomma

No they are still a member but I am not sure why

Are you serious???

Hopefully the admin will see this thread and make the appropriate decision, as I cannot imagine why someone of this character would be allowed to stay.

EmmaPeel · 12-27-2010, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmmaPeel

TOTALLY a foreign person typing in broken English...dead giveaway.

Can you click on the "!" icon to report this post to the Admin?

YorkieMom82 · 12-27-2010, 08:58 AM

I ran across so many of these when I first started looking for a puppy. None here however. It was very disappointing. I just learned if it sounded to good to be true, it was.

megansmomma · 12-27-2010, 09:18 AM

Here is the thread that I found the original post. I can tell by her profile page that there are a lot of really good detectives that took my clues in my original post.

It also looks like there have been others since that have been banned. I did report it and there are posts that were removed but I accidently deleted our PMs that linked her email when I was clearing out my folder so the proof went *poof*. No matter I don't think she will ever be back anyway and I have been watching her activity.

http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/tri...e-maltese.html

Rachael x · 12-27-2010, 09:21 AM

This is hilarious, I love how you scammed the scammer.

I went through quite a few of these emails when I was looking for a pup for my BF.
I like to put them on the spot too just to see how they will react.

143julz · 12-27-2010, 11:54 AM

I know your Yorkietalk user name and you have been reported and I am planning on exposing you to the entire community of 65,000 people for what you are~a horrible deceitful human being! You suck!

Priceless!!!!!

12-26-2010, 09:48 AM	#92
kjcmsw YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Washington Posts: 837	Really? You feel too one sided in creating a typical spay neuter contract, thus letting just anyone whom adopts a pup from you breed them? This is a good example of how good a contract is...is it read? What I said was: the contracts I have seen were too one sided. There's no point in having a contract that won't hold up in court, and one side contracts simply do not hold up, and nothing ticks a judge off more than having to basically "rewrite" the contract in verbiage. Judges aren't please with any appearance of a seller taking advantage of a buyer. All contracts must be fair and equitable to both sides (a moralist POV to be sure, but legal all the same), but that's better reserved for 1L's in Contract law. If I was a breeder I'd be so paranoid I'd have em all fixed before adoption, or they'd be going to breeders specifically. to avoid BYBredding, bad breeding, one of mine becoming a random cages pinning in circles matted mess creating pup mill sales...just sayin' that would be my concern-one sided for the care of the life I chose to create...a I believe I did express my worries and concerns. A potential breeding pup is just that a potential whom should be placed in a kennel that has experience or like one of my dog heavily contracted by the kennel to the adopted protecting all breedign rights and only placed with someone who is trusted not to breed and to adhere to the contract...I believe I expressed my due diligence in interviewing potential buyers. I also believe I expressed that's why I'm holding on to the one pup for a while longer. Nothing would please me more than to find a YT member or some person with the same passion and love for animals to buy one of my pups, but alas I don't believe there aren't a lot of YT members living in my area that are currently looking for a male Yorkie puppy nor do I support air cargo shipping, thus I don't have that option. I don't wan to sound rude but I think it is this I don't wan to be rude situation that opens the door for animal abuse in breeding practices all too much. I don't think you're being rude, rather you don't fully understand the situation and didn't read carefully what I said. Ye, the trucker, two pups at once from the same litter-hmmm that's a horrid idea-tons of threads on the topic here about that...did you refer him to here?I probably would have but he initially took me by surprise. Recovering from that surprise I (as expressed) regained control of the situation and responded in kind. Thanks. Kendra __________________ Kendra

12-26-2010, 03:05 PM	#95
megansmomma Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: S. W. Suburbs of Chicago, IL Posts: 12,235	concretegurl and kjcmsw~maybe you could start a thread in the breeder forum about the issue that you are discussing. You might get a wider range of opinions if your conversation was not buried within this thread. __________________ “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” Mark Twain

12-27-2010, 08:58 AM	#102
YorkieMom82 Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Bellevue, TN Posts: 91	I ran across so many of these when I first started looking for a puppy. None here however. It was very disappointing. I just learned if it sounded to good to be true, it was. __________________ Mommy to Tocho and Aiko

12-27-2010, 09:18 AM	#103
megansmomma Donating YT 10K Club Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: S. W. Suburbs of Chicago, IL Posts: 12,235	Here is the thread that I found the original post. I can tell by her profile page that there are a lot of really good detectives that took my clues in my original post. It also looks like there have been others since that have been banned. I did report it and there are posts that were removed but I accidently deleted our PMs that linked her email when I was clearing out my folder so the proof went poof. No matter I don't think she will ever be back anyway and I have been watching her activity. http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/tri...e-maltese.html __________________ “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.” Mark Twain

12-27-2010, 09:21 AM	#104
Rachael x Poppy's Mamma ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: England Posts: 3,751 Blog Entries: 3	This is hilarious, I love how you scammed the scammer. I went through quite a few of these emails when I was looking for a pup for my BF. I like to put them on the spot too just to see how they will react. __________________ Rachael & Poppy

12-27-2010, 11:54 AM	#105
143julz Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Largo, FL Posts: 1,294	I know your Yorkietalk user name and you have been reported and I am planning on exposing you to the entire community of 65,000 people for what you are~a horrible deceitful human being! You suck! Priceless!!!!! __________________ Dudley Doo and Dexter too!!! RIP (12/93-10/08) MY LIL JULZ!!!