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12-11-2010, 06:19 PM | #1 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nashville, TN
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| shipping? How do you guys feel about about shipping Yorkies? I feel it is inhumame. In the unlikely event I was a breeder, shipping would mean hand delivery by me who holds the baby on the plane. I never again want to see on this site another person who ships dogs. They should be kicked off. It is so wrong on so many levels. If you agree with shipping them and think its safe, don't even bother posting here cause there will be no responce from me. I think of my Yorkies as my children and would never cage them and ship them off. I am so mad about this issue I could drop a few F bombs, but I won't cause i don't wanna get kicked off. So to all the shipper supporters I say a bunch of F-Bombs and don't talk to me. I don't say alot on here but when I do, I am passionate about it. |
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12-11-2010, 07:21 PM | #2 |
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| I had to ship my large Cane Corso, but for a Yorkie or small dog, I would fly and bring her/him back with us. There is also Pet Airlines that caters to Shipping Dogs. Has a Attendent, and she watches them, and unloads them. I do understand your concern. I flew to pick out Carlo, but he was not ready to travel as he was not the required age. When he was, he would not fit under the seat, and I was not about to drive 3800 miles round trip, but he arrived in great shape, clean, and goofy. Maxine the Yorkie flew back with my wife, first class! |
12-11-2010, 07:24 PM | #3 |
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| Shipping Sounds like a scam if you ever see anyone shipping~! They want your money but who knows if you will ever get the puppy. If you do, it may not be what you expected in the ad. |
12-11-2010, 07:30 PM | #4 |
Donating YT 4000 Club Member | I don't believe in shipping pups, either. As a buyer, it would concern me that a breeder would send their dog cross country in the bottom of a plane and never want to meet me. Dogs aren't cargo.
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12-11-2010, 07:38 PM | #5 |
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| Does anyone have the mortality rates on Dog Shipping? Now I know this is the Yorkie Board, but how would I get a Champion Hog Catching Dogo from the best Breeder in Argentina to the US to hunt with? He has shipped out the best stock all over the world, not to everyone, and very selective. Not one mishap. I guess it depends on the size and breed. SInce I am not a breeder, I may be off base here, but, that is me. I someday may also get a terrific Corso from a family I know in Italy that has the best. Again, how would I get him here? Too large to fly under the seat. Heck,when we do fly with Maxine we get mean looks from the flight attendants because she is always out of the bag on our lap. |
12-11-2010, 07:56 PM | #6 |
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| I understand that you are passionate about this situation, but saying some of the things you did is offensive... saying you drop "F-bombs" to the people that agree with shipping is a little much. I think using the "F word" and cursing is wrong, as well as smoking and drinking, but I'm not going to go around telling people what to do. It's a matter of opinion. Making a point and sharing your opinion to help someone and to inform them of a better way is one thing, but to just come off like you are right and everyone else is wrong, doesn't solve anything. I personally wouldn't want a dog I'm purchasing to be shipped because I want to be able to see the breeder, where the dog is coming from, etc., but there are airlines that are specific to shipping animals. There are safer ways of doing it if it needs to be done. I personally wouldn't want to ship my dogs, especially without me being there because I don't trust anyone with my dogs and because Smokey has anxiety issues... he would freak out... my dogs aren't going anywhere unless it's in a car.
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12-11-2010, 08:06 PM | #7 | |
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Obviously, there are going to be times when flying in a dog is necessary (out of the US as you proposed). But for the vast majority of pet owners, there are alternatives. "Shipping available" shouldn't be a selling point, IMO. One isn't ordering a pair of shoes out of a catalog when they are buying a pet. I'll also admit I am biased. When moving cross country, I paid for my dad to fly out to where I was and drive my car to GA with my dogs so I wouldn't have to ship them. I wasn't going to put my dogs through that stress. They had a great time with him (and gained quite a bit of weight during the 4 day drive).
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12-12-2010, 06:09 AM | #8 | |
Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator | Quote:
Your first sentence asks to start a discussion. A few sentences later, you're telling the forum to only post if they support your opinion. Please allow me to clarify that ALL members are welcome to post on this thread. As part of the discussion, let me add my perspective. Do I support 'shipping'? Well, it depends. What kind of 'shipping'? I was able to pick up, in person, my first 2 yorkies. My 3rd kiddo, Pfeiffer, is from a wonderful member here (TammyJM), who lives in another state. Pfeiffer was lovingly flown, IN the cabin with another wonderful member here (LuvMySissy), who brought her to me at the airport - my first vision of LuvMySissy and Pfeiffer was them coming thru the security area and Pfeiffer was all tucked inside LMS's jacket - all cuddled in. So, that's my experience of 'shipping'. And it was nothing but positive . I believe Michael Vick's horribly abused dogs were flown from his house of torture, to the Best Friends Animal Society in Utah. Was that wrong? Imo, no...BFAS was the place they needed to be; otherwise, they'd have likely been put down. Rescue dogs are *sometimes* flown via cargo. Is that wrong? In some cases, it can be the right decision. So, what do I think of shipping dogs via cargo? I'm not a fan of cargo, unless there is a VERY good reason/need to do it. If you happen to be lucky enough to fly your kiddos around whenever you like, then I commend your luck and your ability to maintain a singular view. Good breeders do not ship their pups willy-nilly. By definition, they'd do everything possible to do the opposite.
__________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann | Pfeiffer | Marcel Verdel Purcell | Wylie | Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° | |
12-12-2010, 06:27 AM | #9 | |
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WOWZA......with your passion, we need to get you involved in puppymill legislation...IMO, puppymills are much more despicable than dog shipping. And...actually that is what most of the bad dog shippers are - puppymill operators. They are the ones that will ship a dog anytime of year, in cargo, without respect to the dogs health or well being. Yorkies shipped by respected breeders are normally shipped only with an escort and I have no problem with that.
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12-12-2010, 06:33 AM | #10 |
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| I'm not a fan of shipping. Any time I've purchased a new pet, I've driven to go pick them up from their home state. My latest addition, Roxy (Westie), the breeder was going to drive her to me because she doesn't like to ship. I ended up driving to get her and the breeder met me 3 hours from her house. Roxy came from Illinois. I have another from Kentucky. My remaining two came from about an hour away from me (one bad breeder and the other a rescue), so we just picked them up. |
12-12-2010, 07:35 AM | #11 | |
Between♥Suspensions Donating Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Vaissades
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Here's my comment on a similar post-discussing what I did in shipping and my experience, I think despite not wanting to do it again and not actually having a "bad" shipping experience I did things in a responsible way, I was shocked though to learn that what I thought would be an industry standard is actually the "5 star" or "above and beyond service standard" that was what shocked me. "I actually paid twice the normal pet shipping to have my dogs put on the shortest possible flights that only had one layover and had to pay an airport contracting kennel to take my dogs out, potty them,walk them, feed them, clean their kennels and then stick them back on the plane after making sure they were safe and comfortable (it was a couple hundred more for the kennel service)...that was worth it since I couldn't find anyone to fly with them, my dogs actually ended up on the same flight from Texas to California and were taken care of by the kennel attendant together so they met before I met them. I'm not sure I'd get another dog without actually getting them myself, but I'm so pleased and highly recommend one of the kennels, even though it is a few thousand miles form me." | |
12-12-2010, 08:24 AM | #12 | |
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12-13-2010, 12:28 PM | #13 | |
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12-13-2010, 12:36 PM | #14 | |
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12-13-2010, 05:02 PM | #15 | |
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{btw, it wasn't irrational, imo }
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