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Ladymom · 08-22-2010, 07:26 PM

And, of course, we all know how those "teacup" puppies from greeders have a surprising way of turning out to be supersized!

Mardelin · 08-22-2010, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

And, of course, we all know how those "teacup" puppies from greeders have a surprising way of turning out to be supersized!

With a supersized price ticket.

DvlshAngel985 · 08-22-2010, 09:15 PM

I remember seeing on tv two ladies that took their breeder to court because the poodle mixes grew to be 12 lbs when they were sold and advertised as "teacup" puppies. It turns out the puppies were 2 lbs overweight each, and the breeder said that the puppies were "teacups" as puppies but wouldn't be "teacups" as adults. The judge ruled that although the breeder was misleading in her advertising, it would be unfair to determine the size of any living being when it is only 12 weeks old. Both dogs were healthy, although slightly overweight, which was the new owners fault.

Although an educated guess can be made when a puppy is 12 weeks old, it is nothing more than a guess. If you, OP, and your mom are very determined to get a smaller yorkie, please consider adopting an adult.

Ladymom · 08-23-2010, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985

I remember seeing on tv two ladies that took their breeder to court because the poodle mixes grew to be 12 lbs when they were sold and advertised as "teacup" puppies. It turns out the puppies were 2 lbs overweight each, and the breeder said that the puppies were "teacups" as puppies but wouldn't be "teacups" as adults. The judge ruled that although the breeder was misleading in her advertising, it would be unfair to determine the size of any living being when it is only 12 weeks old. Both dogs were healthy, although slightly overweight, which was the new owners fault.

Although an educated guess can be made when a puppy is 12 weeks old, it is nothing more than a guess. If you, OP, and your mom are very determined to get a smaller yorkie, please consider adopting an adult.

Are you referring to O'Rourke vs. American Kennels? I love that case!

He did find for the Plaintiff. He said American Kennels had misrepresented the "teacup" status and ordered the plaintiff to be refunded $1,000.

The judge had quite a sense of humor when he wrote his decision.

O'Rourke v. American Kennels

JDS · 08-23-2010, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

Are you referring to O'Rourke vs. American Kennels? I love that case!

He did find for the Plaintiff. He said American Kennels had misrepresented the "teacup" status and ordered the plaintiff to be refunded $1,000.

The judge had quite a sense of humor when he wrote his decision.

O'Rourke v. American Kennels

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who watches tv court shows.

I missed this one, though.

Ladymom · 08-23-2010, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JDS

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who watches tv court shows.

I missed this one, though.

I don't think this one was ever on television. I heard about it because it was a landmark case in false advertising by breeders.

It's funny enough to be on television, though, isn't it? I could see it with that crazy judge in the Anna Nicole case!

Beamers Mom · 08-23-2010, 07:15 AM

I saw the one that was on TV. It wasn't this one though. I am sure the one on TV was on Judge Joe Brown and the dogs were poodles not Maltese.
I watch the judge shows too

JDS · 08-23-2010, 07:15 AM

Ah, I see. I love to watch some of the tv court shows, especially when the case is like the one you mentioned. Some of that stuff is very entertaining! When I think I can't be amazed with a person's ignorance, I find I am mistaken.

Wylie's Mom · 08-23-2010, 08:01 AM

Wow

...there are so many red flags here, I don't have time to name them all.

Others have already mentioned some of the red flags. Just look at the ear-set, for one, and we can see it's not as it should be (and look at the adults on the site as well). The use of micro, mini, teacup speaks volumes.

Also, what really bothers me (since I live in Phoenix) is the fact that this breeder mentions "cargo shipping" without ANY mention whatsoever of the HEAT/seasonal issues that can be life threatening if "shipping" from Phoenix, Arizona - where it's about 105-115 degrees during the day, this time of year

. Many airlines will not even *allow* cargo shipping of pets in and out of Phoenix this time of year, btw.

Rhetts_mama · 08-23-2010, 11:17 AM

OMG-how funny. The Judge Joe Brown show with the dog breeder is on right now! On Fox.

The vet is an idiot, though.

MyBabyFynnlie · 08-23-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

OMG-how funny. The Judge Joe Brown show with the dog breeder is on right now! On Fox.

The vet is an idiot, though.

Ahhh!!! I SO WISH I could seeeee it!!!!

Rhetts_mama · 08-23-2010, 11:29 AM

It's really sad that a Judge knows more about AKC and meeting/not meeting show standard than the vet does.

I found a link to the episode on youtube. It really is kind of funny/sad all at the same time.

ETA: The vet seems all over the place. At one point she says because there is white on the poodle, it means he's not a poodle. But then she kind of back tracks and backs up the defendants.

YouTube - Judge Joe Brown - Toy Poodle pt1..

YouTube - Judge Joe Brown #2 - Toy Poodle part 2

MyBabyFynnlie · 08-23-2010, 12:07 PM

Thanks so much for finding that! I will *so* watch it when I get home!!!

DvlshAngel985 · 08-23-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladymom

Are you referring to O'Rourke vs. American Kennels? I love that case!

He did find for the Plaintiff. He said American Kennels had misrepresented the "teacup" status and ordered the plaintiff to be refunded $1,000.

The judge had quite a sense of humor when he wrote his decision.

O'Rourke v. American Kennels

It was a TV court case and the breeder won on the basis that she said the dogs were teacups as puppies and that is what she advertised. The dog owners argument was they had bought little dog clothes that their dogs didn't fit into when they fully matured and that's what prompted them to sue the breeder. It really was a completely laughable case, which is why I kept watching.

DvlshAngel985 · 08-23-2010, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhetts_mama

It's really sad that a Judge knows more about AKC and meeting/not meeting show standard than the vet does.

I found a link to the episode on youtube. It really is kind of funny/sad all at the same time.

ETA: The vet seems all over the place. At one point she says because there is white on the poodle, it means he's not a poodle. But then she kind of back tracks and backs up the defendants.

YouTube - Judge Joe Brown - Toy Poodle pt1..

YouTube - Judge Joe Brown #2 - Toy Poodle part 2

PERFECT EXAMPLE OF AN UNEDUCATED BUYER! How or what she expected I have no idea. Plus, they shouldn't have had a vet in the courtroom, they needed a show judge or a show breeder. They know more about pedigrees than a vet does.

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08-22-2010, 09:15 PM	#18
DvlshAngel985 Donating YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 12,693	I remember seeing on tv two ladies that took their breeder to court because the poodle mixes grew to be 12 lbs when they were sold and advertised as "teacup" puppies. It turns out the puppies were 2 lbs overweight each, and the breeder said that the puppies were "teacups" as puppies but wouldn't be "teacups" as adults. The judge ruled that although the breeder was misleading in her advertising, it would be unfair to determine the size of any living being when it is only 12 weeks old. Both dogs were healthy, although slightly overweight, which was the new owners fault. Although an educated guess can be made when a puppy is 12 weeks old, it is nothing more than a guess. If you, OP, and your mom are very determined to get a smaller yorkie, please consider adopting an adult. __________________ Littlest JakJak We miss you Kaji

08-23-2010, 07:15 AM	#22
Beamers Mom Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Palm Bay, Fl, USA Posts: 5,957	I saw the one that was on TV. It wasn't this one though. I am sure the one on TV was on Judge Joe Brown and the dogs were poodles not Maltese. I watch the judge shows too __________________ Help control the pet population. Have your pet spayed or neutered. - Bob Barker

08-23-2010, 07:15 AM	#23
JDS YT 500 Club Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: the good 'ol South Posts: 683	Ah, I see. I love to watch some of the tv court shows, especially when the case is like the one you mentioned. Some of that stuff is very entertaining! When I think I can't be amazed with a person's ignorance, I find I am mistaken. __________________ Jenn & Lulu

08-23-2010, 08:01 AM	#24
Wylie's Mom Furbutts = LOVE Donating Member Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 35,889 Blog Entries: 2	Wow ...there are so many red flags here, I don't have time to name them all. Others have already mentioned some of the red flags. Just look at the ear-set, for one, and we can see it's not as it should be (and look at the adults on the site as well). The use of micro, mini, teacup speaks volumes. Also, what really bothers me (since I live in Phoenix) is the fact that this breeder mentions "cargo shipping" without ANY mention whatsoever of the HEAT/seasonal issues that can be life threatening if "shipping" from Phoenix, Arizona - where it's about 105-115 degrees during the day, this time of year . Many airlines will not even allow cargo shipping of pets in and out of Phoenix this time of year, btw. __________________ ~ A friend told me I was delusional. I nearly fell off my unicorn. ~ °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨° Ann \| Pfeiffer \| Marcel Verdel Purcell \| Wylie \| Artie °¨¨¨°ºOº°¨¨¨°

08-23-2010, 11:17 AM	#25
Rhetts_mama Donating YT 4000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,959 Blog Entries: 1	OMG-how funny. The Judge Joe Brown show with the dog breeder is on right now! On Fox. The vet is an idiot, though. __________________ Don't get your knickers in a knot. Nothing is solved and it just makes you walk funny.

08-23-2010, 12:07 PM	#28
MyBabyFynnlie Donating Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Charlottesville, Virgina, US Posts: 806	Thanks so much for finding that! I will so watch it when I get home!!! __________________ Jessica Momma and personal assistant to Fynnlie