Do I have a right...?

[MyBabyFynnlie]

I understand where you're all coming from. I really do. And I'm thankful that you're being so helpful.

I've met our friend before, Beth. Before I met her with the puppies. She's a personal nurse that works on contract with the hospital I work at. I just never knew she had Yorkies. I have met two other people who've gotten puppies from her and they've been happy with them, having no problems.

I called one of them a while ago to ask if they had the same problems with the breeder. He said that he didn't have any issues. But when his wife called, the breeder got all pissy and was rude and stuff to her.

I just don't know!

I guess it was just me. Ugh. How awful does that make me? Am I a bad person? It makes me feel bad about myself that this breeder doesn't like me. I don't have people not like me! I'm a very likable person! *sobs*

I even checked out the breeder! She's reputable. Her pups are registered with AKC and her line is good quality. Is it just me?

Wow, that makes me feel so bad about myself!

[Mardelin]

Originally Posted by MyBabyFynnlie

I understand where you're all coming from. I really do. And I'm thankful that you're being so helpful.

I've met our friend before, Beth. Before I met her with the puppies. She's a personal nurse that works on contract with the hospital I work at. I just never knew she had Yorkies. I have met two other people who've gotten puppies from her and they've been happy with them, having no problems.

I called one of them a while ago to ask if they had the same problems with the breeder. He said that he didn't have any issues. But when his wife called, the breeder got all pissy and was rude and stuff to her.

I just don't know!

I guess it was just me. Ugh. How awful does that make me? Am I a bad person? It makes me feel bad about myself that this breeder doesn't like me. I don't have people not like me! I'm a very likable person! *sobs*

I even checked out the breeder! She's reputable. Her pups are registered with AKC and her line is good quality. Is it just me?

Wow, that makes me feel so bad about myself!

Just because pups are registered with AKC doesnt mean the breeder is good. Have you studied pedigrees enough to know that her line is of good quality?

Don't kick yourself......You had every right. You buy your breeder first, then your dog. You should be buying a relationship that will last through the pups life. If you don't feel comfortable with the breeder walk away.

[MyBabyFynnlie]

I haven't studied pedigrees but I know that the two she breeds are both first or second place winners in shows.

I just got off the phone with the breeders husband. Now I know why she was so bitchy. She had back surgery last Monday and she hasn't been taking her pain killers because they make her feel sick. But if she doesn't take them, he's a huge b**ch to everyone.

He apologized to me for her behavior. Beth called him again to talk to her about how she was with me, it's why he called. That and the other person that I know who has gotten puppies from her before called to find out what was wrong because they had been thinking about getting another puppy but if she was going to be like that then they weren't going to buy from her again.

I guess that's understandable. The husband answered all of my questions and was just as nice as you please about it. He apologized profusely. Everyone has bad days, right? i still feel badly, you know? Like I did something wrong. *sigh* I guess it's just that I don't treat people like that even when I feel badly so I don't think I deserve to be treated like that, either...

Why do some people suck so bad?

[QuickSilver]

I'm sorry this woman upset you so much. It sounds like you were being very reasonable.

As other people have said, the fact that your friend has two healthy dogs from this woman does not necessarily mean that she's a good breeder. How old are these dogs? Many problems don't show up until the dog is 3-4 years old.

Also, re: price. I don't want to pry into your finances, but if you can't afford a normally priced pup, are you confident that you can afford a dog, period? Especially if it needs a lot of medical care?


You might want to consider getting a rescue, since the prices aren't so high, and you will be giving a dog a second chance!

If you are willing, maybe you can post the information about the breeder here, or PM someone with the info, and they can check it out. I personally would not be able to tell you definitively if it was a good breeder, but other people here would.

[YorkieChick1]

Well, I hope it was just that a "misunderstanding". Like others have said you have more contact with a breeder than you think. Good Luck and can't wait to see pics of your baby, Fynnlie.

[Roccosmommy]

Originally Posted by MyBabyFynnlie

Later, I saw a lady carrying the same puppies around! We fawned over them again and got to talking. She told me about them and about herself.

Originally Posted by MyBabyFynnlie

I've met our friend before, Beth. Before I met her with the puppies. She's a personal nurse that works on contract with the hospital I work at. I just never knew she had Yorkies.

I'm sorry you're going through this, but something is just not making sense. In your original post, you mention meeting a "lady" and telling her about yourself. Then you say you've met her before. You get all kinds of very sound advice from experienced owners, including a very prestigious breeder (Mardelin) and you don't seem to acknowledge it. Instead you're beating yourself up thinking you are responsible for this breeder's rude behavior. Please don't make excuses for her, even as badly as you may want a puppy. Her husband made excuses because he's trying to save a 'sale'. There are others out there from very reputable breeders. If you can't afford to pay a higher price, just wait until you've saved more money. If not, you may well pay dearly in the long run.

[MyBabyFynnlie]

I'm paying a good deal already. What I mean is that I can't afford to pay like, 3,000 for a dog. Personally, I think that's crazy. I would never, ever pay that kind of money for a dog. My Sheltie that I lost in March was diabetic and I had been paying for all of his medical care, his insulin, his needles, everything, for almost five years. I'm

The lady, Beth, told me about herself in regards to her puppies. I know her from work but I didn't know anything about her personal life or her dogs. I'm an Administrative Assistant. She's a personal RN. We don't have much contact at work. When I met her in the mall and we got to talking and she told me about herself, it was new to me. I knew her face and a little bit about the kind of person she is from work, but I didn't know anything about her life outside of work.

I feel like I'm being confusing and like I'm trying to defend someone I don't even know. Ugh. I kinda just want to go to sleep and forget all about this! Maybe I'll feel better in the morning? *sobs* I need a cuddle with my Maine Coon!

[QuickSilver]

MyBabyFynnlie, it sounds like you are a sensitive person (as am I ). Please try not to take what is said here as an attack on you personally. We all just want to make sure you are able to do what's best for you and your future dog: making sure you can afford it and ensuring your dog comes from a good breeder (or rescue) are crucial. Maybe there's no reason to be concerned, but just as you asked questions of this breeder, we're asking you questions.

If you are sure you can afford it, great. A $3K yorkie sounds extreme, have you been quoted that kind of price previously? Finally, I urge you to do your homework and make completely sure this is a good breeder before commiting to her.

[DvlshAngel985]

Originally Posted by Roccosmommy

I'm sorry you're going through this, but something is just not making sense. In your original post, you mention meeting a "lady" and telling her about yourself. Then you say you've met her before. You get all kinds of very sound advice from experienced owners, including a very prestigious breeder (Mardelin) and you don't seem to acknowledge it. Instead you're beating yourself up thinking you are responsible for this breeder's rude behavior. Please don't make excuses for her, even as badly as you may want a puppy. Her husband made excuses because he's trying to save a 'sale'. There are others out there from very reputable breeders. If you can't afford to pay a higher price, just wait until you've saved more money. If not, you may well pay dearly in the long run.

I've had surgery on my back before too. I couldn't walk for weeks, and the dr took the one thing away from me that has always been a great stress reliever, my car. I didn't take my pain meds either because they made me slow, dizzy, and I was just so "high" I didn't know what I was doing. I knew all this before hand, and if I was a breeder, there is no way in he** that I would plan a surgery during a time I should be actively screening people as potential homes.

OP this is not about you. I feel as though you've already fallen in love with this puppy, but this breeder is raising many eyebrows with the way she conducts "business." To me it seems as though everyone, including the husband and your friend Beth are covering for the bitchy breeder so as not to lose a sale. I just wanted to point out that puppies from puppy mills are also registered with the AKC. AKC means nothing if the breeder behind the breeding isn't reputable.
As far as price goes, not all breeders are out there just to rip you off. It might take some time but you will find a puppy for less than $3k. If you research, you will find a great breeder, you will feel good about where your baby is coming from, and you will have the best support network if, god forbid, anything were to happen to your puppy.

My heart goes out to you because you're such a kind soul. My friend is a super sensitive person, and she got a dog without even seeing her. Now, whenever her baby is sick, she has no one to turn to other than her vet and YT. A good breeder to back you up is so important since they know what they are doing and they can give you solid advice.

[Roccosmommy]

Originally Posted by MyBabyFynnlie

I'm paying a good deal already. What I mean is that I can't afford to pay like, 3,000 for a dog. Personally, I think that's crazy. I would never, ever pay that kind of money for a dog. My Sheltie that I lost in March was diabetic and I had been paying for all of his medical care, his insulin, his needles, everything, for almost five years. I'm

The lady, Beth, told me about herself in regards to her puppies. I know her from work but I didn't know anything about her personal life or her dogs. I'm an Administrative Assistant. She's a personal RN. We don't have much contact at work. When I met her in the mall and we got to talking and she told me about herself, it was new to me. I knew her face and a little bit about the kind of person she is from work, but I didn't know anything about her life outside of work.

I feel like I'm being confusing and like I'm trying to defend someone I don't even know. Ugh. I kinda just want to go to sleep and forget all about this! Maybe I'll feel better in the morning? *sobs* I need a cuddle with my Maine Coon!

I'm sorry if I've upset you, that was not my intention (and I'm sorry about the loss of your Sheltie ). Just trying to point out that there are red flags here with the breeder. Sometimes we just want something so bad, we can try to reason whatever it is that may stand in the way of getting it. I totally feel for you, being led on and then let down. One more question - have you visited the breeder's home yet and/or made arrangements to see the new pups there when ready?

[MyBabyFynnlie]

I'm going to call the breeder tomorrow and find out what the deal is. I don't want to feel bad about myself because I asked a few questions. I don't care of much pain she's in or how much she is not a people person.

You don't treat people like that for any reason. If I have to forgo my puppy - which I have ALREADY fallen in love with - I have to do it. I'm not going to put up with someone who is okay with talking to her prospective buyers like they're not worth it.

*sobs* This is just awful. I'm mildly depressed now.

[yorkie_mama22]

Originally Posted by Roccosmommy

I'm sorry you're going through this, but something is just not making sense. In your original post, you mention meeting a "lady" and telling her about yourself. Then you say you've met her before. You get all kinds of very sound advice from experienced owners, including a very prestigious breeder (Mardelin) and you don't seem to acknowledge it. Instead you're beating yourself up thinking you are responsible for this breeder's rude behavior. Please don't make excuses for her, even as badly as you may want a puppy. Her husband made excuses because he's trying to save a 'sale'. There are others out there from very reputable breeders. If you can't afford to pay a higher price, just wait until you've saved more money. If not, you may well pay dearly in the long run.

I caught that too. And Beth's only been a friend for 5 months. I wouldn't trust everything a "new friend" would tell me.

[Roccosmommy]

Originally Posted by MyBabyFynnlie

I'm going to call the breeder tomorrow and find out what the deal is. I don't want to feel bad about myself because I asked a few questions. I don't care of much pain she's in or how much she is not a people person.

You don't treat people like that for any reason. If I have to forgo my puppy - which I have ALREADY fallen in love with - I have to do it. I'm not going to put up with someone who is okay with talking to her prospective buyers like they're not worth it.

*sobs* This is just awful. I'm mildly depressed now.

Good for you - no need to feel badly when you did nothing wrong. Just sleep on it and deal with it fresh tomorrow. I wish you the best with getting a pup. Please keep us updated.

[MyBabyFynnlie]

I will definitely keep you guys updated. Thanks for the great advice. I really appreciate it.

[Woogie Man]

You know, no one here can have a clear picture of what happened. You certainly have a right to ask questions, but sometimes it's a matter of style rather than the questions themselves.

As others have mentioned, you buy the breeder before the dog. With that in mind, realize that you are establishing a relationship with whatever breeder you decide on. Your questions should be part of the conversation and not resemble an inquisition. Not saying you did that, just offering it as general info.

Your initial contact with a breeder should be only for the two of you to get a sense of each other. You shouldn't expect for the breeder to offer to sell you a pup at first. If the two of you can establish good communication with the first contact, then you can ask to come visit and see how things go from there. You may get asked for a vet reference along with other questions. Just as you have questions for the breeder, they will have questions for you. You both can use the time between, before the visit, to see if either of you have any reservations on pursuing this further.

This breeder may not be a bad egg, but, if you are not comfortable for any reason, you should look elsewhere. Remember that the relationship with your breeder will last as long as your dog.

Good luck in your search.