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Old 02-03-2006, 08:15 AM   #61
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Anna~

I can tell that you love your dogs and that this one means a lot to you.

While I also could not give up a dog that I had had for most of it's life, I would not criticize you for it or accuse you of not caring for your dogs and giving them the best lives possible.

Just so that everyone knows, you are in good company in your policy of rehoming some of your females. Even YorkieRose finds homes for her retired females so do not let these other members make you feel guilty for doing what you feel is best for all concerned.

Keep your chin up!
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Anna~

I can tell that you love your dogs and that this one means a lot to you.

While I also could not give up a dog that I had had for most of it's life, I would not criticize you for it or accuse you of not caring for your dogs and giving them the best lives possible.

Just so that everyone knows, you are in good company in your policy of rehoming some of your females. Even YorkieRose finds homes for her retired females so do not let these other members make you feel guilty for doing what you feel is best for all concerned.

Keep your chin up!

I never compared her to anyone here. I don't care who you are, if you use your babies as a cash cow then turn around and just give her up when she can no longer make you money, is just sad and wrong. That dog has also given the family the best years of her life, and now SHE has to adjust to a new life because she no longer rakes in the dough. Further more, it's even more sad, and Kim I'm surprised at you for condoning this, she is being sold after only 6 weeksssss with her pups!!!!!??? That's all the pups get with their mom, just 6 weeks? That's a disgrace No one is making anyone here feel guilty about anything, just expressing our views on a situation SHE brought up. Only those with guilt would feel guilty.
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I never compared her to anyone here. I don't care who you are, if you use your babies as a cash cow then turn around and just give her up when she can no longer make you money, is just sad and wrong. That dog has also given the family the best years of her life, and now SHE has to adjust to a new life because she no longer rakes in the dough. Further more, it's even more sad, and Kim I'm surprised at you for condoning this, she is being sold after only 6 weeksssss with her pups!!!!!??? That's all the pups get with their mom, just 6 weeks? That's a disgrace No one is making anyone here feel guilty about anything, just expressing our views on a situation SHE brought up. Only those with guilt would feel guilty.
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I joined YT to avoid all of the negativity that i seen on all of the other sites toward other people. I've never posted on another site bc it seemed that no matter what people typed they got attacked. I'm sorry you don't like the choice I've had to make. You've voiced your opinion now drop it. Madie is very much a part of our life and we do love her. And I never stated that we didn't have time for her. Since my yorkies me they are with me constantly. I work in my home and they are always in the same room as I. I say that our house isn't big enough because I don't beleave in keeping dogs in a kennel or small pen and ours our aloud to run the house. Four is plenty to keep up with, since we have three children. I'm suffering enough heart break from having to do this with out being attacked by everyone. Madie is a young dog and we do expect to have her fixed after she has weaned her pups. Our dogs are far from abused, and we are trying to prevent poor breeding. Yes she is bred now and if you read some of the posting on the breeders page you will see that accedents happen. I'm sure that, yes there are breeders out there who get their dogs fixed and keep them, but I'm sure there are ones here that have also had to sell a dog. They just won't pipe up bc they don't want to be attacked.

By the way this is sooooo of topic. If you want to sling mud at me send me a personal message. Or start a new thread.
I am sorry if it seems that you are being the scapegoat of all of this. Maybe you aren't one of the breeders who regularly practice this. From the way you have presented yourself, you are getting rid of a dog you love because your husband says she can't make you any money, so there's no point in keeping her. In that case I think you should stand up to him and tell him all the reasons you would like to keep her around. If you don't, it sounds like you don't want to keep her either.
For all of the breeders who do practice this I would like to understand it better. I would like to know why it's okay to get rid of a female after she is "retired from breeding." Those dogs have given you the greatest gifts in the world, their puppies and all of their love. I believe that you would owe it to them to make sure they are well taken care of into their senior years. I would like to understand why it is accepted in the breeding world to use the best years out of it's life and rehome it or leave her in a rescue. If someone could enlighten me I would really apprecaite it.
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I never compared her to anyone here. I don't care who you are, if you use your babies as a cash cow then turn around and just give her up when she can no longer make you money, is just sad and wrong. That dog has also given the family the best years of her life, and now SHE has to adjust to a new life because she no longer rakes in the dough. Further more, it's even more sad, and Kim I'm surprised at you for condoning this, she is being sold after only 6 weeksssss with her pups!!!!!??? That's all the pups get with their mom, just 6 weeks? That's a disgrace No one is making anyone here feel guilty about anything, just expressing our views on a situation SHE brought up. Only those with guilt would feel guilty.

I believe her response indicated the pups were being BORN in six weeks, not SOLD at six weeks...


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I believe her response indicated the pups were being BORN in six weeks, not SOLD at six weeks...


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I apologize for my error in reading that. However, it sounds like there is an immediate need to get rid of her, so I doubt the puppies would be with their moms for the full 12 weeks. But it still doesn't make it ok or any better to get rid of a baby girl that has given her best years and gifts to this family. CHERYL I completely agree with you.
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[QUOTE=cheryl000]I am sorry if it seems that you are being the scapegoat of all of this. Maybe you aren't one of the breeders who regularly practice this. From the way you have presented yourself, you are getting rid of a dog you love because your husband says she can't make you any money, so there's no point in keeping her. In that case I think you should stand up to him and tell him all the reasons you would like to keep her around. If you don't, it sounds like you don't want to keep her either.[QUOTE]

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Anna~

I can tell that you love your dogs and that this one means a lot to you.

While I also could not give up a dog that I had had for most of it's life, I would not criticize you for it or accuse you of not caring for your dogs and giving them the best lives possible.

Just so that everyone knows, you are in good company in your policy of rehoming some of your females. Even YorkieRose finds homes for her retired females so do not let these other members make you feel guilty for doing what you feel is best for all concerned.

Keep your chin up!
I am sorry Kim but I can't stand using the word "retired" in accordance with female yorkies. It's as if it's their JOB to produce puppies. When they're finished with their "JOB" they are "retired stock" to be put into a rescue or find a different home. It is very stressful for an older dog to go into a new home. They don't forget their old life and everything they knew. They're not like puppies or young dogs that bounce back. I don't think this is best for the dogs concerned or does these little dogs justice. But all of this is just my opinoin.
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I apologize for my error in reading that. However, it sounds like there is an immediate need to get rid of her, so I doubt the puppies would be with their moms for the full 12 weeks. But it still doesn't make it ok or any better to get rid of a baby girl that has given her best years and gifts to this family. CHERYL I completely agree with you.

Perhaps finding a new home with people who would love and appreciate her would actually be the BEST thing to happen in this case. ...JMO

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P.S. Many professional breeder/exhibitors re-home their females who are no longer being bred....many of which are listed under the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America's "recommended breeders" list.
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Perhaps finding a new home with people who would love and appreciate her would actually be the BEST thing to happen in this case. ...JMO

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P.S. Many professional breeder/exhibitors re-home their females who are no longer being bred....many of which are listed under the Yorkshire Terrier Club of America's "recommended breeders" list.
I think it may be in THEIR BEST interest, not the poor poor dogs. Like I said before, I don't care who does this, whether a great breeder or a backyard breeder, it is WRONG to rehome just because they can't be your cash cow anymore. I couldn't care less whether the President of YTCA does this, title has no meaning to me, it's just WRONG period.
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I think it may be in THEIR BEST interest, not the poor poor dogs. Like I said before, I don't care who does this, whether a great breeder or a backyard breeder, it is WRONG to rehome just because they can't be your cash cow anymore. I couldn't care less whether the President of YTCA does this, title has no meaning to me, it's just WRONG period.
I agree I don't understand how anyone who loves yorkies so much can do this with one that they've spent so many years raising and have given them puppies. I would always wonder what happened to her or if she's being taken care of. I see alot of females in rescues for that reason.
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This is so heartbreaking to read. I can't understand how people can have a sweet animal in their home for years and merely think of them as a money making machine. Once they are no longer able to bring in the cash, they are discarded like yesterday's trash!! My Nikko is my baby, he is my best friend and a complete joy in my life. I would NEVER give him away because he could no longer provide a "service" for me. He pees all over my floors, has floppy ears, double canines, barks incessantly and chews my house inside out. He is far from the perfect dog but he is mine and I wouldn't trade him for anything. Granted I am not a breeder and I do not know alot about the subject but I am merely speaking from a dog lover's perspective. I think this practice is shameful and cruel.
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I just read your question about shorkies. About 2 weeks we got a puppy that is around 7 months old from our daughter. She told us it is a shih tzu mix but wasn't sure what the other breed is. We finally determined yesterday that she has to be a shorkie because we were visiting the owner of a yorkie and comparing the dogs we could see the features of the yorkie in her. When I visited the I was really amazed - the first pictured shorkie on the webpage looked almost exactly like our little puppy. In answer to your questions and concerns, she is the best puppy I could ask for. She is intelligent, loving, likes companionship, listens very well (although we have an occasion slip up, but only 2 in the past 2 weeks which I think is exceptional), loves to cuddle and lay on my lap, only barks when strangers come to the door or when I get her excited playing with her. She will readily lay quietly and nap, too. I was reluctant to take her from my daughter because I am disabled and have trouble getting around. As far as I am concerned, she is the best possible puppy I could ever have and is a wonderful companion. She doesn't shed and easy to want to spoil. She does like to go everywhere we do and is already a member of our family. I hope this helps in your decision.
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The website I meant to list in the previous reply was http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/shorkietzu.htm. Another website that tells you about what shorkies are is : http://www.pricelesspups.net. I'm not recomending you buy from them, I think their prices are extremely high but they describe the traits of a shorkie pretty well. Good luck.
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