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04-20-2010, 10:05 AM | #46 |
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| [QUOTE=mimimomo;3091552 Now, this poor girl will have a peaceful happy life w/her new loving family. Many are not so lucky. If you're looking for a new puppy, please please please do your research. Make sure you get the pup from a reputable breeder. Don't support these unethical 'breeders'. Stop this cycle of abuse.[/QUOTE] Great post!!! Glad to hear she is in a loving home now.
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04-20-2010, 10:10 AM | #47 |
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| How much money is involved here? Did you pay money for these dogs? Your friend adopted two dogs from you, then returned them because she couldn't handle them, then went out and adopted two more and now shaking the breeder down for money? |
04-20-2010, 10:33 AM | #48 | |
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Rose has not contacted my friend who has called her & left messages numerous times. She is not looking for monetary help, she's very well off & her recent surgery has not left her disabled. It's very disheartening that I feel the need to explain her situation... I have just spoke w/her & asked her to let Rose know about Fanny's knees & that she will need surgery. I feel a breeder should know, since she did not mention any of this to a person who was adopting her dogs. She did tell me that Rose wanted the two girls to be spayed & not to be used for breeding.
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04-20-2010, 10:35 AM | #49 |
YT 2000 Club Donating Member | I didn't even know what a "sticky was" until I'd been here about a month. So posts like this were ones I eventually started to read. I was very lucky to have had the opportunity to be around a breeder of yorkies, who also trains them in obedience, and my own working breed. So I learnt about Yorkies from watching them being trained, knew my breeder very well, from 3 years of training with her. But still before I purchased a pup from her, I went to both the YTCA and YTCC sites to look up health concerns on yorkies. We sat down together and went through the list of health concerns, she showed me vet certificates, OVC test results, Bats, etc. I had watched Razz's mom practice/compete in agility and obedience for three years, I ask for and got the registration details on Razz's sire, and saw pics of him at shows etc. My situation was ideal with-in which to purchase a puppy. Only better is if I had got to see and watch Razz's sire grow and be trained too. But still here I am, trying to learn more about this adorable breed, to be able to care and train my boy to the highest standards. Breeders whose standards have slipped, who neglect some very basics of professional puppy and owner care do need to be discussed. Having said this, at this point I believe the thread needs to be given a rest period until the breeder is heard from. There maybe overarching personal or business concerns at this point/time in her life that makes it difficult for her to respond in a timely fashion.
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04-20-2010, 10:40 AM | #50 | |
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But you ripped into all who where posting on here against this breeders bad practices, not even thinking of the poor dog that she sold unspayed , that was abused. And then called us elitist. This is what YT is for...to continueously inform the uninformed, teach, learn, and support. It's not just all about the warm and fuzzies of owning a Yorkie. Looking forward to a better future is great, but allow people to do that with knowledge of what to expect from the good and bad choices out there.
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04-20-2010, 10:47 AM | #51 | ||
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Gez, I don't know what thread you were reading - but it wasn't THIS one. This thread is about a BREEDER that has dogs from a lot of well known kennels and 2 of the dogs she sold. Where on earth did you see someone saying anything to the new owner? Maybe YOU should go back and read the thread from the beginning! Oh yes there have been people come on here and say that they condone puppymills and byb's so even though you have a Yorkie, already, it sounds as though you could still use this forum for some more information. I guess you'll never wake up a happy woman because trying to inform the public about "how to purchase a puppy" and "how to find a good breeder" will always be topics on this kind of forum. And as suggested - if you don't like the content of these threads - don't read them.
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04-20-2010, 10:55 AM | #52 |
YT Addict | I dont want you to think in anyway that this is not a sad story where it seems as though this puppy is getting the help it needs which is a very beautiful thing. Volenteering in a foster home for abused dogs I have seen my share of dogs in really rough shape. Its enough to drive a person insane. You just cant fathom how a person could... Its heartbreaking. I cant do it anymore becuase it hurts too much. I can understand you wanting to share your story. Its not you, your friend or the story that made me angry. I hope you didnt think I was attacking you. Perhaps admin should seriously consider a sticky for this as there are probably hundreds of threads regarding this topic. Perhaps members that are truley upset by these stories have possible ideas on what could be done to stop them. Breeders should be held to a higher standard than what they are getting away with (especially for what they are charging!) My father has bred dogs my whole life and has not once made a profit from it (in fact, I'm sure on many occassions he has lost money). His dogs have more awards on the wall than I ever did. He cares about the breed. Im not saying breeders should give their dogs away, just that with prices as high as they are people will look for alternatives. Finding a good breeder is a very very tricky thing.
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04-20-2010, 10:56 AM | #53 | |
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04-20-2010, 11:00 AM | #54 |
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| What bad practices? A reputable breeder is being maligned here on some pretty flimsy charges for having placed adult dogs--bad teeth--bad knees. Yorkies are prone to bad teeth, and extractions at 3 years old are not uncommon. Bad knees also are common as they get older, and how the knees got bad is the breeder's business. The thing I find the most questionable about this breeder is how on earth she ended up placing these dogs with this particular person. I'm asking again, HOW MUCH DID YOUR FRIEND PAY FOR THESE DOGS? |
04-20-2010, 11:01 AM | #55 |
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| What? What does where I've been all week have to do with this thread?
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04-20-2010, 11:07 AM | #56 | |
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(I've been busy the past few weeks yorkie sitting for a dear friend. She just adopted a Yorkie girl that was used for breeding. She's been bred twice (from what the breeder says) & both those times, had c-sections. She wasn't spayed after her 2nd c-sect. All her pups from the 1st litter died bc of over medication by the vet. 2nd litter, only one out of 4 survived...(not a money maker, so she let her go). Her teeth were so bad, the worst plague build up I've ever seen. Her knees pop every time I picked her up. She's not house broken. She 'marks' all my fur babies' pee & poo. She paces endlessly back & forth, back & forth, making me dizzy. I believe this is from being in a crate most of her life (24-7). Surprisingly, her AKC pedigree is filled w/Champions, including some very famous lines, which I won't name.) Who cares about the price...even if she was a freebie...This is not a good sign! And to have let her go unspayed is just wrong.
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04-20-2010, 11:22 AM | #57 | |
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04-20-2010, 11:24 AM | #58 | |
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04-20-2010, 11:30 AM | #59 | |
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My friend is an angel. She's always adopted older retired breeding girls from breeders & never talked bad about the breeders. She's never had puppies. When she came to me & saw Princess & Turbo, she fell in love w/them. We both cried bc she has just lost one of her dear adopted yorkie who was 15, blind, deaf & couldn't walk. The reasons why she returned them to me was truly unselfish & she thought it was better for them. Once again, I'm in tears explaining her situation. You didn't see their teeth. The upper half was covered in disgusting brown plague...should've taken a picture. I don't understand why she's not returning phone calls after they've been dropped off. Since this is going nowhere & obviously upsetting some people (including myself), I am going to ask this thread to be closed. My intention was never to reveal who the breeder was nor did I want to 'shake her down'. I don't want her reputation ruined for some 'flimsy charges'. I guess it has to be more cruel & inhumane. I will update if we ever hear from her. I feel she needs to explain the situation. Maybe her show dogs are impeccable, but the breeding bitches are treated w/less care.
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I truly believe that a good breeder never makes money, but loves doing it for the breed.
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