New pet store - Knoxville, TN

[YorkieLover316]

Thats the point. Why even breed...and sell. Just like a store "who doesn't breed", how do we know anything about the store or what exactly a breeder does. Why is it ok for a reputable breeder? People may have experiences with stores, but like me and many others "people have had problems with breeders". Who has the best intention. Both for money. Nothing else. I just dont believe its ok for a breeder to do what they want "just because" or whatever, and a store be shunned. Are they both good people? I dont know but (just like your experiences) I have seen and heard about enough breeders no being who they say they are...

[Micah my love]

[JDS]

Originally Posted by YorkieLover316

Thats the point. Why even breed...and sell. Just like a store "who doesn't breed", how do we know anything about the store or what exactly a breeder does. Why is it ok for a reputable breeder? People may have experiences with stores, but like me and many others "people have had problems with breeders". Who has the best intention. Both for money. Nothing else. I just dont believe its ok for a breeder to do what they want "just because" or whatever, and a store be shunned. Are they both good people? I dont know but (just like your experiences) I have seen and heard about enough breeders no being who they say they are...

Educating people about puppymills & Pet stores that purchase from puppy mills is in no way condoning bad breeders or BYBers either. You seem to think that since this thread is about a Pet Store selling puppies (that we all know come from puppymills & are almost always afflicted with health & emotional problems) that we are all saying ONLY the Pet Stores are bad...Anyone who breeds just for the money (BYB, commercial breeders) are not in it for the love of the breed. Those should be stopped as well.

But continuing to purcahse from a known puppymill is not attempting to shut down anything. It is contributing to the problem. Just like continuing to purchase from a bad breeder, BYB, etc would be...if you cut off the $$$, they will go out of business. It's a matter of economics. It is terribly sad for the pups that are in the puppy mill situation, but feeling sorry for them & taking them home only allows the puppymills to remain in business.

[Lovetodream88]

Originally Posted by YorkieLover316

Thats the point. Why even breed...and sell. Just like a store "who doesn't breed", how do we know anything about the store or what exactly a breeder does. Why is it ok for a reputable breeder? People may have experiences with stores, but like me and many others "people have had problems with breeders". Who has the best intention. Both for money. Nothing else. I just dont believe its ok for a breeder to do what they want "just because" or whatever, and a store be shunned. Are they both good people? I dont know but (just like your experiences) I have seen and heard about enough breeders no being who they say they are...

We are not stressing breeder over puppymill we are stressing a good breeder over puppymill. A good breeder sells out of there home and will let you come and meet the puppies and there parents and you can normally tell if they are taken care of good and part of the family. Have you not see the pictures and videos of puppymills? If you go to a breeders house and see that it is a puppy mill! I am so angry at someone who would even think people should just buy from a puppy mill! It turns out my yorkie came from a puppy mill after learning about them and doing research. My yorkie has LP, arthritis in her back and several other issues because she came from a puppy pill that did do genetic test ect.

[Micah my love]

Originally Posted by Lovetodream88

Wow just wow. A good breeder doesn't sell at a flea market first of all and second a good breeder takes care of there dogs and puppymills dont! If you want dogs there has to be breeding! But there doesn't have to be puppymills!

Originally Posted by Micah my love

sorry this was where my post was supposed was to go

[Britster]

First off, an "AKC registered breeder" means nothing to me. Puppies coming from puppy mills can be AKC registered.

A puppy mill, sometimes known as a puppy farm is a commercial dog breeding facility that is operated with an emphasis upon profits above animal welfare and is often in substandard conditions regarding the well-being of dogs in their care. They often keep hundreds of dogs in pens outdoors and they lack proper nutrition, health, everything. They breed over and over again not even caring about the dogs or the breed.

A reputable breeder does NOT contribute to the selling of pet store puppies because a reputable breeder will NOT give their pups to pet stores to sell or a flea market. A reputable breeder does health testing, knows their lines really far back, raises their puppies IN their home, AND will always take a puppy back that they produced if the owner cannot for some reason. They screen potential homes for puppies, and won't just give their pups to any old person who hands them money.

BIG difference.

[Voice of Truth]

My sweet little Yorkie came from a puppy mill, too.

From a puppy mill......into a large white transport van.....and then into a human baby crib in owner Steven Glatz's "Puppy Zone" in Knoxville, TN.

So, YorkieTalk316.....I do know someone who has purchased a puppy there. I know them very well!

Steven Glatz lied to my face several times about several things regarding my puppy. I wouldn't state this without solid proof.

The truth will come out soon, and I can undoubtedly promise you this is FACT.

Kudos to the person that noticed this thread was not replied to until very recently. I encourage everyone who is concerned or curious about these posting to refer to the following two links:

In the first link, you can see that there are several reviews. If you look at these reviews in chronological order (there are 10 total), you will see that there are several very bad reviews to begin with, which all seem to now appear on "page 2", if you will.
Now, turn your attention to the newer reviews, which take up all of "page 1".....precisely all of page 1. Then, if you look into the actual reviews, you will see more than a few very odd statements for your average, satisfied consumer to make:

#1 From "Angie" - "I recently visited the Puppy Zone for the first time....
..Miraculous...To have 50-60 pups on the floor and have no odor...Wow!...I didn't buy a puppy yet...However, I will definitely be back there to get my puppy when I am ready, and between now and then, I'm sure I'll be back just to play with puppies...Steve, the owner, and his wife Lina are two of the nicest people you'd ever want to meet and have a well-run establishment that they can be proud of! A+++ Guys!...OH, and to those that down graded them for fees for registering their dogs...That's standard...And the Puppy Zone doesn't set those fees, the registry does...‎"

Ooooookay, this woman has never been in the store before and did not even buy a puppy, but somehow she knows approximately how many puppies were "on the floor" (retail jargon), AND apparently knows both the owner's and wife's names, AND after just this one visit testifies to how well-run the establishment is.

#2 From "Wendy" - "As a small business owner myself, I also understand the cost involved in running a business, so the price of the dogs reflect all of the outgoing expenses, which can be high in retail space."

Retail space??? Please, what happy customer goes into this depth of discussion? Next!!

"Seems like the bad reviews on here are about money and expectations."

This is just generally a dumb statement to me. I work hard for my money and yes, when I spend it I have expectations. Really, if you think about this statement...basically it states that you should have NO expectations whatsoever upon purchasing a puppy from "Puppy Zone." Funny how the truth is unintentionally stated here.

#3 From "Freddie" - "When family comes to town, Puppy Zone is the first place we want to take them."

I don't think I even have to comment on this one.....um, do what? I guess this statement would only make sense if you were an employee or an owner.

And a little more proof straight from the "horse's mouth" via facebook:

Wednesday, August 25, 2010
Puppy Zone To our customers and fans: We were just made aware of the internet harassment, we do not condone any type of negativity towards others or others having access to you through our page. We apologize for any unwanted contact and will try to take more necessary steps to protect your privacy and opinions.

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http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile...136_1397_q.jpgPuppy Zone We do not support puppymills. Our puppies come from loving homes and wonderful people. Please do continue to come see our puppies and have a great day. Thank you all! : )


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Veeeeeeeerrrryyyyy interesting that all these posts (including those here) occur around the same date. Also interesting is clicking on those people who left google reviews. Almost ALL of the people who left bad reviews have other reviews left in the past. Only ONE of the good reviews left for "Puppy Zone" in the last few days has ever made a review on anything via google in the past, aka they just created their accounts.

**AND check out his "family business" in Orlando, FL....."Puppy Stop":

Pet Store Investigated After Dying Puppy Complaints - Money News Story - WKMG Orlando

Seems like this kinda thing runs in the family, huh?


I have done my research. Have you done yours?

As I stated earlier, the truth will be known within time. So I ask you, YorkieLover316, where is your proof? Honestly you sound like a child, without the reasoning of an adult. Honestly I do not know many mature, reasonable adults who would spout off at the mouth continuously in a forum as you have. Half of your sentences do not even make sense, and for Pete's sake (and the rest of ours) will you please learn proper grammar and spelling? I pity you.

Go ahead and blast back, I will pay you no mind. I am not so insecure.

Good luck and blessings to the others here

Sincerely,

Voice of Truth




And if that isn't enough, here's the BBB report on "Puppy Zone":
RATING D-

BBB Review of The Puppy Zone in Knoxville, TN

[Voice of Truth]

(I left this as a side note to a post I left earlier, must not have been approved...maybe due to added links, I don't know)

I tripped and left one last thought out.

These puppies come with a registration application form from the CKC....

No ladies and gentlemen, not the Canadian Kennel Club, but the Continental Kennel Club.

And notice I said application and not REGISTRY PAPERS......from a registry that I am sure others here can attest to is less than standard.

Ciao.

[Voice of Truth]

Originally Posted by YorkieLover316

What? Why? I have been there and love that place! A friend of mines daughter volunteers there. Never heard of anything like that, who's the Vet.? I've been in this area all my life and most of my family, we've all been there and really liked the place. AT LEAST its not a puppymill! I cant stand puppymills or so called breeders or puppymill breeders who yell "puppymill" at a STORE, breeders set up in flea markets . OMG I think my boss got a puppy there! I'll find out, dont think he had any issues at all! I have to show this to all of them cause I haven't heard of any problems. Where did you hear of all these deaths Rachelanne820? Honestly I like how you care about puppies BUT I wish instead of places selling poor innocent puppies, it would make more sense to STOP BREEDERS. Lets just address the source. Come on, at least the tree people address the source, they TRY to stop companies from destroying them. If there wasn't BREEDERS and PUPPYMILLS, dont think stores would exist. Right? Even if someone shut down yorkie puppymills, I would still play with the puppies, I would still love them. I gotta show this to some people, I think you may be mistaken or at least about all the people I know who's been in there or purchased a puppy from there. DONT BUY FROM BREEDERS they ARE puppymills and are CRUEL to make dogs reproduce to make money! THIS IS FACT!

Your boss? As in Steven Glatz?

Who volunteers there? I see only ads for paid employees posting from Puppy Zone.

Please.......so obvious

I will have to "show it to all of them" - do you mean, all of the employees at Puppy Zone?
"Tree people"?? What are those? A better vocabulary..cough...I mean representative noun would probably translate a lot smoother....

[Voice of Truth]

Originally Posted by YorkieLover316

What? Why? I have been there and love that place! A friend of mines daughter volunteers there. Never heard of anything like that, who's the Vet.? I've been in this area all my life and most of my family, we've all been there and really liked the place. AT LEAST its not a puppymill! I cant stand puppymills or so called breeders or puppymill breeders who yell "puppymill" at a STORE, breeders set up in flea markets . OMG I think my boss got a puppy there! I'll find out, dont think he had any issues at all! I have to show this to all of them cause I haven't heard of any problems. Where did you hear of all these deaths Rachelanne820? Honestly I like how you care about puppies BUT I wish instead of places selling poor innocent puppies, it would make more sense to STOP BREEDERS. Lets just address the source. Come on, at least the tree people address the source, they TRY to stop companies from destroying them. If there wasn't BREEDERS and PUPPYMILLS, dont think stores would exist. Right? Even if someone shut down yorkie puppymills, I would still play with the puppies, I would still love them. I gotta show this to some people, I think you may be mistaken or at least about all the people I know who's been in there or purchased a puppy from there. DONT BUY FROM BREEDERS they ARE puppymills and are CRUEL to make dogs reproduce to make money! THIS IS FACT!

One more slight little insight on this one (and if my first post never gets approved, it's ok. In the end the truth will be known.)

So.....basically what you are saying here is that breeders are horrible, horrible people...and this place you endorse (Puppy Zone) does not buy from them, correct?

Hrmmm, so where do they get their puppies......the stork?

[YorkieLover316]

Obviously I don’t work for Puppy Zone, where did you get THAT fact?
Obviously I rescued mine, I think I stated that a few times
Obviously you DONT know what your talking about cause the “my friends daughter is there every Thursday with her father VOLUNTEERING”
Obviously you wanna be some kind of “twisted investigator to come up with all these ideas, that you have added together, I GUESS by living in a scary reality”.
Obviously your completely wrong “at least about me”,

NO I DONT LIKE BREEDERS, and “I may be a child”? You may be some senior citizen who’s got a lot to say, I GUESS “again” (lol don’t have time for thinking everything is a scheme nor do I really care).

I’ve been there, it seemed nice. I’ve check out the Facebook page and I don’t think 700 people who like the page are all employees.

Reviews- whatever

What other neurotic things have you came up with?
OMG let me GUESS “am I also trying to take over the world”
OMG let me GUESS “my dog is some kind of terrorist”

Lol your ridiculous; O yes your a good story teller, and creative. You should write a book.
With all this information, YOU COULD BE A PET STORE OWNER or worse a BREEDER!

Voice of truth; this is the INTERNET, your problay a breeder and have a puppy mill
Voice of truth; what are you talking about??????
Voice of truth; my boss at NORTHERN TOOL , yep, happy with his BOSTON TERRIER!

I really hope someone actually decides to talk to you, you seem ignored and most likely disliked.
Yeah your quick behind a computer screen
you sound crazy

and I don’t care about what you say, why do you care so much? Remember, Im a child. You seem like your extremely irritated and I think it goes beyond me. Ouch ouch ouch whatever, can you sleep at night now? good. remember this is the internet (NOT REAL) I don’t know you, don’t care to know you. So why the h*ll would you think “YOUR INTELLECT” would matter to me? I still don’t like BREEDERS, does that get under your skin? Tell me how great you breeders are, remember Im a child, tell me like I care sweetie.

STILL DONT LIKE BREEDERS!! Im sure you’ll come up with a hundred more things to say, maybe I’m the MOB, maybe we’re all here to mess directly with you.
Maybe you need serious help and attention.k?

[Voice of Truth]

Bwahahahhahahh whatever. :P

I am not a breeder - I have now at present and have had in my whole life owned a total of ONE DOG.

About you perhaps working for Puppy Zone...ummm, I listed the facts as interpreted from YOUR posts......still waiting on proof of your side, dear??? You know...names, dates, FACTS, etc.....

Ignored and disliked? lol You make me laugh. 700 friends, you say? Who cares? I have more than that on my PERSONAL FB profile. Big deal. Perhaps I should hang you from a string and have you be my puppet....you perform SO well!

So you work at Northern Tool? Interesting...thanks for the info!

[Voice of Truth]

It's p-r-o-b-a-b-l-y......

Say it out loud a few times; work it out in your head.

"Problay" as you have posted many times.....is not a word.

P-R-O-B-A-B-L-Y

[Rhetts_mama]

Are there bad breeders out there? Heck yes. But the majority of the bad breeders (IMO) are the ones who sell to ANY puppy store. They may not like to call themselves puppy mills or puppy farms, they prefer to identify themselves as breeders. But the bottom line is that they sell off living creatures to puppy brokers. I really believe stores like this one shouldn't be allowed to exist. At the very least, they are guilty of false advertising. At the worst, they are peddling sick, poorly bred pups on to uneducated customers. The only back ground check they care about is whether or not your credit check passes.

[Voice of Truth]

Whoa - check out the new "review war" going on on Google reviews....

This is proving my point beyond what I ever dreamed! How on the earth are all these "happy customers" so defensive?

Justification will come in the end. Karma is not a nice thing.