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Old 12-22-2009, 02:25 PM   #106
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well i now give him Two because of the pitbull + yorkie + child dynamic he apparently has going.
I have a Boxer and my Yorkie baby, I personally am not a fan of pit bulls but I love animals. I'm open to everyone opinions and believe in Cesar's way. I know everyone doesn't but thank you for post!
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I worship the ground Cesar walks on, and I'm not afraid to admit it.

If anyone could have a pitbull around children (or a yorkie), it would be Cesar. His pitbull "Daddy" is the best You really can't ban the breed ...

"One of Daddy’s remarkable traits is his extreme tolerance for smaller dogs. He allows them to do whatever they want to him"
Daddy | Cesar Millan
I agree!!! Daddy does rock... I'm scared of pits from a personal experience but I love animals and everyone of our furry friends deserve a chance!!
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Where did you hear he has a yorkie because Ive never heard that
In his new books Rasing the perfect dog, He states he adopted a yorkie from a puppy mill!
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I know what everyone is meaning cause when I told my own father that finally I was going to get a Yorkie after all these years of trying the first and only thing he said was "Mystic will eat it"!!??? Can you believe that, I was really hurt! Mystic is our GSD and she is a sweetheart, albeit a big one but still and this was his advice?? I had taken all the precautions and properly introduced them over weeks till it was time for him to come home and when we sleep or are away we do put him in his big crate in our bedroom just so Mystic don't roll over on him or whatever but they do soooo well together. I am sure if anyone can allow big dogs and little dogs to live together in harmony it would be Caesar!!
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I like Cesar because I think he has a great balance. He has NO issues allowing a human to treat a dog like a baby or a human, as long as you treat him as a dog first, then breed, then human. He doesn't think letting dogs sleep on the bed is a problem (Victoria usually treats this as a huge no-no in episodes I've seen). His dogs clearly love him and it's very noticeable on television. Dogs don't "act" on TV and fake showing him love. He views his dogs as part of his family but he gives them structure at the same time. Just like raising kids... you should be their parent first, then friend, and they need discipline. It's no different. I think people take the term "dominate" the wrong way. The definition of dominate is exercising influence or control. Simple as that.

He generally speaking works with dogs that have some major issues, whether it be guarding, aggression, fear, etc so he's not aiming to teach the typical sit-stay-down behavior. People say he's all negative but it's just not true. Every dog is different for him and he never only uses ONE method. He never comes in and tries to dominate a dog that's terrified of everything for example. I've seen plenty of episodes where he uses food as a method to make something positive.

I, for one, have raised Jackson on a lot of Cesar's simple methods. Exercise, discipline and affection in that order. Jackson's honestly a great dog and I'm not just saying that. He hardly ever causes any trouble. He loves every dog he meets, never has growled, bit, showed his teeth, or done anything of the sorts to me or anyone because he knows better. He walks right beside me on the leash with no issues, he can walk past a dog and care less, a lot of issues I see in other dogs, he just doesn't have. He's very shy with strangers which I've been working on but if people just ignore him and follow Cesar's "no touch, no talk, no eye contact" he's absolutely fine. In general, I owe his behavior to Cesar because I started watching his show the week before I got him.

Bottom line -- I think that every single dog is going to be different and a method that works for one dog may not work for another and he knows that. Nobody is ever going to agree on how to raise a dog, or how to raise a kid, and I think the only thing we can do is agree to disagree and do the best we can.

I don't think anybody can deny he's a good person, cares deeply for his dogs and every dog, he seems like a wonderful father and husband, and he's helped out thousands of dogs from euthanized, he's supported rescue organizations and aimed to stop puppy mills. He's done a lot for the dogs of the world and I don't think anybody can deny him that.
I have to agree that Cesar IMO is great, no one is without flaws... I still support Cesar and I really do appreciate all of the replies!!!
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It’s a golden summer morning in California, and the dogs are getting restless. I can hear the kids giggling in the yard, and a symphony of swallows outside the kitchen window. Like every other day for the past 15 years, I am making Daddy’s breakfast.

He watches as I knead the gloppy mixture with my hands: warm chopped beef from the farm down the road, a handful of fresh herbs from the garden, and some boiled green beans, sliced into thirds. It takes me a while, but it’s a ritual I try not to rush.Knead the beef, add the greens, sprinkle in the herbs—knead, knead, knead. Make it soft, make it easy for him to eat.

Daddy is an old, old man now. He can’t do stairs anymore, and he’ll pretty much only eat his food if I prepare it. When his breakfast is ready, I take it over to him on the floor where he’s been eyeing me. I do my “come and get it” dance, whisper the words only he and I know, and place the bowl in front of him. He raises his head slightly, sniffs the air, and thumps his tail a few times, but otherwise stays put. Clearly, he wants more dancing. But it only takes a few moves before he’s on his feet, slopping away.

I have never had a dog like Daddy. During our decade and a half on this earth together, I’ve been astounded by his intuition, consoled by his affection, and awed by his silent empathy. Somewhere along the way, he helped my sons learn to walk.

I know there’ll be a morning sometime soon when I run through all my familiar routines, except one.

But it won’t be today. For now, the sun is shining, the kids are laughing, the swallows are singing, and Daddy is watching over us all.

-Cesar Millan


(Just thought it was a really sweet article. Pits are peoples pets, too, just like our Yorkies. And I think we should respect that.)
Awww! I agree that that Daddy is special!! I think Cesar rocks! Great article!
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I get SO ANGRY at this type of stereotypical response. That is the basic type of thing that I heard when I was looking for my Yorkie. "Oh No WAY!! You have Greyhounds!! They kill everything small and fuzzy!!"

Ahh, ya, whatever!!

People need to do their research before sticking their foot in their mouth.
I was thinking the same thing about greyhounds. When walking greyhounds we would to warn each other “SMALL WHITE DOG!” … talk about trained to kill.

ANY large dog could kill your little baby with one bite. ANY!
You could also die in a car accident or get struck by lightning tomorrow.

Sure you could stay indoors all day and have all the irrational fears you want. Perhaps you could even draw a little mustache on your top lip and have all the pitbulls of the world euthanized by perpetuating their “killer” reputation. It doesn’t effect you any, so why would you care?

I used to assist in a pitbull foster home. These dogs were not taken out of good homes with good owners. These dogs came in so terrified of people due to severe abuse that they would rather starve than step foot by a human with food. I never for a second hated these dogs; I can assure you that I have nothing but contempt for their previous owners.
It infuriates me that you could hate the breed just as racists and bigots infuriate me.
Have you ever stopped to think that by perpetuating the reputation as killers you are encouraging the “bad owners” who would want such a dog to seek one out. Do you think Mr. Thug down the street wants a soft cuddly couch potato? No, he wants a bad ass killer. But it doesn’t effect you at all….
For people that are so up in arms about Puppy Mills you have no problem looking the other way when the dog isn’t so “cute”.


And as for Caesar, some like him and some don’t. I do not have cable so I have only seen a couple of shows online. I have not seen any of this Victoria lady’s show. Either way these two people are bringing together pets with owners that are on the edge of giving up. I can’t condemn either for that.

A member was simply sharing something she thought was positive such as the rescue of Miss Georgia Peach. I have never seen such belittling and condescending behavior towards another member on this site as I have read in this tread.

This may have been one of those occasions where “if you don’t have anything nice to say….”
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I am not sure where my reply went, I hope I didn't just miss it.

I think that you are being very judgmental. Sounds like a form of segregation.

I have to watch my Jack Russell so she does not hurt the Greys. JR's are also known as being so hyper. I have nothing but great things to say about this breed, when there was so much negativity on them not so many years ago. Her only problem is she is TOO SMART!!

Many years ago: about 25, Cocker Spaniels were known for being the the worst dog bitters. They at the time put it off to the ratio of Cockers that were owned as pets. Wonder what the ratio of pittys as pets is compared with the bite ratio?

I am not in any way saying that ALL pittys are bad. Sure just like any breed there are bad and GOOD!

If you took about half of the Yorkies and left them outside, all the time, unsocialized, they might end up in as bad of mental shape as the pittys!

But because of the PRICE of a good Yorkie, most will take better care of them than that. Yorkies are not a dime a dozen at the pound like the pitty...

If you are "scared" when you meet one: THEY WILL SENSE IT!

All I ask as a DOG LOVER, is that you refrain from making blanket statements. How many pittys have you come in contact with that you can say that you would never have that dangerous dog? How many pittys have bitten you/yours? That was the problem that I had with the greyhounds. NO!!!! My Greys do not eat anything little and fuzzy...They all get along well. The littles love them and they love the littles.

Am I the alpha? No, but I am in charge. I have 11 dogs around here at any given time. I have to be in charge.

Check in the actual biting force of a German Shepherd. Last I read, their jaw force was more than the pitty.

I will look and see if I can find that research.
Everybody is judgemental about something and I just dont want to take the chance. But I'm not found of german shepherd to much either but with reason (when I lived with my parents) we had one and she dug into the goat pin killing one of our baby goats and injured another and she used to mouth my wrists and stuff all the time. I guess I have an anxiety about all big dogs because of strength and knowing that at least a smaller dog is weaker then me and I could defend myself if I had to. I am not saying all are evil I know lots of big dogs who are great but there is an anxiety there with most.
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[F was thinking the same thing about greyhounds. When walking greyhounds we would to warn each other “SMALL WHITE DOG!” … talk about trained to kill.

ANY large dog could kill your little baby with one bite. ANY!
You could also die in a car accident or get struck by lightning tomorrow.

Sure you could stay indoors all day and have all the irrational fears you want. Perhaps you could even draw a little mustache on your top lip and have all the pitbulls of the world euthanized by perpetuating their “killer” reputation. It doesn’t effect you any, so why would you care?

I used to assist in a pitbull foster home. These dogs were not taken out of good homes with good owners. These dogs came in so terrified of people due to severe abuse that they would rather starve than step foot by a human with food. I never for a second hated these dogs; I can assure you that I have nothing but contempt for their previous owners.
It infuriates me that you could hate the breed just as racists and bigots infuriate me.
Have you ever stopped to think that by perpetuating the reputation as killers you are encouraging the “bad owners” who would want such a dog to seek one out. Do you think Mr. Thug down the street wants a soft cuddly couch potato? No, he wants a bad ass killer. But it doesn’t effect you at all….
For people that are so up in arms about Puppy Mills you have no problem looking the other way when the dog isn’t so “cute”.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[F as for Caesar, some like him and some don’t. I do not have cable so I have only seen a couple of shows online. I have not seen any of this Victoria lady’s show. Either way these two people are bringing together pets with owners that are on the edge of giving up. I can’t condemn either for that.[/SIZE][/FONT]

[F member was simply sharing something she thought was positive such as the rescue of Miss Georgia Peach. I have never seen such belittling and condescending behavior towards another member on this site as I have read in this tread. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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[F may have been one of those occasions where “if you don’t have anything nice to say….”[/SIZE][/FONT]
Im so over defending how I feel. And for your information I do stay inside and at home a lot/most of the time due to my "irrational" fears. I dont hate anything or anyone I was raised not to. But "the person down the street with the pit" would effect me and the women that is down the street was walking with her pit one day and we where leaving with Callie and she goes my dog is not friendly so keep her away and if that dog got out not being friendly she might attack a dog or a person.
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Everybody is judgemental about something and I just dont want to take the chance. But I'm not found of german shepherd to much either but with reason (when I lived with my parents) we had one and she dug into the goat pin killing one of our baby goats and injured another and she used to mouth my wrists and stuff all the time. I guess I have an anxiety about all big dogs because of strength and knowing that at least a smaller dog is weaker then me and I could defend myself if I had to. I am not saying all are evil I know lots of big dogs who are great but there is an anxiety there with most.
I don't mean this offensively, but obviously you guys didn't take the time to teach the GSD not to mouth, bite, etc. They're working dogs who require a ton of mental stimulation, training and exercise or they're going to find other things to do with their time. I know because we as a family owned a German Shepherd for 3 years and didn't understand the breed at all, she ended up being put down because she attacked a stranger who unexpectedly came onto our property. Huge mistake on our part -- not the dogs fault by any means. I don't think you can blame the breed for humans mistake.
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I don't mean this offensively, but obviously you guys didn't take the time to teach the GSD not to mouth, bite, etc. They're working dogs who require a ton of mental stimulation, training and exercise or they're going to find other things to do with their time. I know because we as a family owned a German Shepherd for 3 years and didn't understand the breed at all, she ended up being put down because she attacked a stranger who unexpectedly came onto our property. Huge mistake on our part -- not the dogs fault by any means. I don't think you can blame the breed for humans mistake.
I am not blaming anyone we feel a lot of guilt on us because of that and we didnt know anything about the breed a family at our church adopted her and didnt want her anymore and neither did anyone else so my mom being very animal loving took her in.
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I like Cesar and watch his show often. I saw the yorkie on the show " How to raise the perfect puppy". I don't think Cesar would ever put a dog in danger. I respect the relationship between Cesar and Daddy. It's going to be a very sad day when he passes away.
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I am not blaming anyone we feel a lot of guilt on us because of that and we didnt know anything about the breed a family at our church adopted her and didnt want her anymore and neither did anyone else so my mom being very animal loving took her in.
I totally understand, because as I said, we made the same mistake. But I don't dislike German Shepherds because of OUR bad experience with one which was purely our fault. You had stated "But I'm not found of german shepherd to much either but with reason" but I don't think that's a good enough reason. On the other hand, I totally get where your coming from because a lot of people have a fear of big dogs and certain breeds. I don't think there's anything wrong with that per say. You can't change what your afraid of. I just don't think it's fair to state your not fond of the GSD breed because you had one that mouthed you and killed your goat. Your supposed to give a German Shepherd pup 100+ positive experiences a day for a puppy and they require extensive socialization. I wish we had known that prior to getting our GS pup but unfortunately, we didn't do our research. She was a wonderful family dog and super smart and I so wish we would have trained her properly. I miss that dog.

My aunt's pit is 8 years old but was socialized highly as a puppy and adult. She always made sure to put her hand in his bowl as a pup, getting him used to it, he's wonderful with children and all people, he's great with dogs. A socialized Pit makes all the difference in the world. When you own such a powerful breed, you've always gotta be on top of them. You truly have to be their LEADER and can't ever let them take control. That's why I'd never own such a powerful breed, I don't think I'm strong enough mentally. You've gotta build trust and respect.
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I totally understand, because as I said, we made the same mistake. But I don't dislike German Shepherds because of OUR bad experience with one which was purely our fault. You had stated "But I'm not found of german shepherd to much either but with reason" but I don't think that's a good enough reason. On the other hand, I totally get where your coming from because a lot of people have a fear of big dogs and certain breeds. I don't think there's anything wrong with that per say. You can't change what your afraid of. I just don't think it's fair to state your not fond of the GSD breed because you had one that mouthed you and killed your goat. Your supposed to give a German Shepherd pup 100+ positive experiences a day for a puppy and they require extensive socialization. I wish we had known that prior to getting our GS pup but unfortunately, we didn't do our research. She was a wonderful family dog and super smart and I so wish we would have trained her properly. I miss that dog.

My aunt's pit is 8 years old but was socialized highly as a puppy and adult. She always made sure to put her hand in his bowl as a pup, getting him used to it, he's wonderful with children and all people, he's great with dogs. A socialized Pit makes all the difference in the world. When you own such a powerful breed, you've always gotta be on top of them. You truly have to be their LEADER and can't ever let them take control. That's why I'd never own such a powerful breed, I don't think I'm strong enough mentally. You've gotta build trust and respect.
I was a kid at the time so her killing the goat really made an impression on me even though it wasnt necessarily her fault. They are soooo smart! My dad always said it bothered him how smart she was was. She was a climber and would climb the fence so we put one of those fences with the collars around are fence we had so if she climb it, it would shock her to try and keep her in because we where afraid she was going to get out and hit by a car and she would go to the fence and lay down where it would give the warning beep and run the battery down and then climb the fence.
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I am not sure where my reply went, I hope I didn't just miss it.

I think that you are being very judgmental. Sounds like a form of segregation.

I have to watch my Jack Russell so she does not hurt the Greys. JR's are also known as being so hyper. I have nothing but great things to say about this breed, when there was so much negativity on them not so many years ago. Her only problem is she is TOO SMART!!

Many years ago: about 25, Cocker Spaniels were known for being the the worst dog bitters. They at the time put it off to the ratio of Cockers that were owned as pets. Wonder what the ratio of pittys as pets is compared with the bite ratio?

I am not in any way saying that ALL pittys are bad. Sure just like any breed there are bad and GOOD!

If you took about half of the Yorkies and left them outside, all the time, unsocialized, they might end up in as bad of mental shape as the pittys!

But because of the PRICE of a good Yorkie, most will take better care of them than that. Yorkies are not a dime a dozen at the pound like the pitty...

If you are "scared" when you meet one: THEY WILL SENSE IT!

All I ask as a DOG LOVER, is that you refrain from making blanket statements. How many pittys have you come in contact with that you can say that you would never have that dangerous dog? How many pittys have bitten you/yours? That was the problem that I had with the greyhounds. NO!!!! My Greys do not eat anything little and fuzzy...They all get along well. The littles love them and they love the littles.

Am I the alpha? No, but I am in charge. I have 11 dogs around here at any given time. I have to be in charge.

Check in the actual biting force of a German Shepherd. Last I read, their jaw force was more than the pitty.

I will look and see if I can find that research.
Yes I agree. So many p-bulls are being sold at very affordable prices, it's like a fresh meat market. It's probably the most common dog needing homes or rehomed on craigslist, or any ads that I see. Because of their low costs and being readily available to the public a lot of people who are not experienced in raising this breed get them - either as true pets or for some other "shady" reasons. Then they get the blame for being bad dogs when they are abused or maltreated or even malnourished. Do any of you guys watch the Animal Channel - animal cops philadelphia. That show has tons of pitbulls being rescued from bad owners and my heart goes out them.
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