I was so livid

[lovespandp]

I would never blame the child, its apparent the child doesnt know wrong from right. How is it his fault? Obvious the Mom has not taught the kid that hanging a dog upside by his legs is wrong.. I would be upset as well, but when I have Peanut with me WHERE EVER I am he his watched like a hawk. It is your duty to watch your dog to make sure things like that do not happen.

[Bianca]

Originally Posted by misslissa

i have a ten year old brother a 7 year old nephew a 4 year old cousin and a 1 year old god son (and many others all the way up to 16) and all of them know how to handle a dog even a small dog when my cousin was about 3 her grandma got a chi and the first thing she did was get it out of the cage but then she held it like a baby and was very gentle with it and this dog was mean a five year old with a dog at home should have acted better and i would have spanked him on his bottem weather the mom would forgive me or not

If you spanked my kid on his bottom I don't think you would have the capacity after that to even see straight let alone care if I forgive you

[shiver]

I thank everyone for their point of view.but i dont regret what i did.if the mom couldn't apoligize to me for her son doing that to my furbaby i have to protect him from all harm.and my furbaby was in a safe place he shouldn't had went to my room i couldn't keep an eye on every child that was there i was attending a birthday party.i feel that parents should be responsible for their children's behavier.next party i make sure is done at chucky cheese.thanks everyone!!!

[Bianca]

Originally Posted by shiver

I thank everyone for their point of view.but i dont regret what i did.if the mom couldn't apoligize to me for her son doing that to my furbaby i have to protect him from all harm.and my furbaby was in a safe place he shouldn't had went to my room i couldn't keep an eye on every child that was there i was attending a birthday party.i feel that parents should be responsible for their children's behavier.next party i make sure is done at chucky cheese.thanks everyone!!!

You hit it on the head when you say "Parents should be responsible for their children's behavior" that also applies to their discipline..JMO

[MaddiesMommie]

Originally Posted by Bianca

You should have got the dog then informed the mom. You never put your hands on a child especially if they aren't yours. He is five years old and you say he should have known better? I have raised 3 sons and 5 year olds don't have the full understanding of their consequences yet. He should have for sure been punished and corrected , but not by you. If anyone put their hands on my children they would have a big problem , big problem. I ,as a mother, would have my eyes on my child the whole time and for sure would have made him/her apologize and I would be so very apologetic, but you would have had a problem once you put your hands on my son. I don't mean to be rude, but it's just how I feel.

Furbaby or skinbaby, I will be the only one grabbing ears....not that I would do that.

[LilMissy]

Originally Posted by shiver

I thank everyone for their point of view.but i dont regret what i did.if the mom couldn't apoligize to me for her son doing that to my furbaby i have to protect him from all harm.and my furbaby was in a safe place he shouldn't had went to my room i couldn't keep an eye on every child that was there i was attending a birthday party.i feel that parents should be responsible for their children's behavier.next party i make sure is done at chucky cheese.thanks everyone!!!

Yeah, but she didn't get the chance to apologize before you put your hands on her child. My guess is that this is the reason you haven't received an apology yet. It's always been my opinon that "two wrongs don't make a right". It is not the childs fault. Kids will be kids. His Mother should have had a better eye on him, and even at that...people make mistakes.

[DerbyLayne]

Originally Posted by shiver

cI GRAVED THE LITTLE BOY BY THE EAR AND TOOK HIM TO HIS MOM AND TOLD HER WHAT HAPPEND.SHE DIDN'T TELL HIM ANYTHING I TOLD HER SHE HAVE LEAVE OUT MY HOUSE WITH HER LITTLE DEVIL I WAS SO ANGRY.BUT NOW I LOST A FRIEND

As someone who works with children, YOU were in the wrong handling this situation.

Kids will be kids. They a curious little people, and when they love- they love a lot (ever seen kids with cats' tails?) I believe that most children don't fully comprehend the way you should treat a pet- ever seen preschoolers with their own friends? Same difference. They don't understand their own strength, and most of the time they don't mean to hurt anyone/thing. They're playing! or being grabby or whatever. They get so excited they can't handle themselves! Some of them even pee their pants at 5 they're so excited... Get it? How are they supposed to understand exactly how to handle a pet when some of their peers can't even control their bladder? Do you see now, a child is a child...

First Step. CALM DOWN.

Handle the situation like an adult. If you get upset, say sorry.

Is the dog ok?
Is the child ok?

Try talking to the kid EX: "Gentle! Gentle... You can't handle dogs like that... they're very fragile and they can get hurt..." Try talking to them in words they can understand. Show them how to handle the dog, how to pet the dog etc.

Then speak to the mother "Just so you know.... this and this happened and it really scared me, and I yelled- but we worked it out."

If was your friend, and you had handled it this way? I'd still speak with you, and if you handled it the way you said you did? Start grovelling... You handled my child, and as an adult you KNOW better. A kid is a kid ! It's not "eye for an eye"

And the kid went into your room? I bet money that that kid heard a dog in there... (or, what's behind this door? No one's looking...lol) Back to my original statement, they are curious little people...

[DerbyLayne]

Originally Posted by HendrixandLucy

I would have done the same thing.

One of my biggest pet peeves in the world is parents who do not discipline their children. I do not have kids yet, but I used to be a full time live in nanny for some very un-disciplined kids and I think it is awful! UGHHHH!!!! What a rude woman to not repremand her child.... and how awful that the child would even behave that way. YUCK YUCK YUCK!!! What a little devil--- you are right!

I am glad your baby is ok! I hope he bites that little brat next time he comes around

With an attitude like that? If I was a kid, I'd be mean to you on purpose.

What kind of education did you have to be a nanny? Was childcare your first choice? Something tells me no...

"Brats" to nannies are usually kids who don't like their nanny...

[Disney]

Originally Posted by LilMissy

Yeah, but she didn't get the chance to apologize before you put your hands on her child. My guess is that this is the reason you haven't received an apology yet. It's always been my opinon that "two wrongs don't make a right". It is not the childs fault. Kids will be kids. His Mother should have had a better eye on him, and even at that...people make mistakes.

Wonderful post.

[Disney]

Originally Posted by HendrixandLucy

I would have done the same thing.

One of my biggest pet peeves in the world is parents who do not discipline their children. I do not have kids yet, but I used to be a full time live in nanny for some very un-disciplined kids and I think it is awful! UGHHHH!!!! What a rude woman to not repremand her child.... and how awful that the child would even behave that way. YUCK YUCK YUCK!!! What a little devil--- you are right!

I am glad your baby is ok! I hope he bites that little brat next time he comes around

.......

[HendrixandLucy]

Are you kidding me?

A. I was KIDDING!!!!!

B. YOU DON"T EVEN KNOW ME! How dare you make a comment like that.

C. I am and was a WONDERFUL nanny. I absolutly love children.

Those kids were bad because they never had EVER heard the word NO before I moved in with them and because their parents would take off for weeks at a time and leave their three children with a nanny. Children act out when their parents do not know how to be parents.

I can't even believe you would say something to me. It doesn't take a genius to understand that I was kidding.... clearly I don't think a child should be bitten by a dog. But I do think that parents should be watching their kids when they are over at someones house. This situation NEVER would have happened if the mother was watching her child. The dog was in a crate exactly like it should have been.

[HendrixandLucy]

Originally Posted by DerbyLayne

With an attitude like that? If I was a kid, I'd be mean to you on purpose.

What kind of education did you have to be a nanny? Was childcare your first choice? Something tells me no...

"Brats" to nannies are usually kids who don't like their nanny...

and also, YES, childcare was my first choice at the time. I absolutly adore children and was with that family for three years even though I was completely under paid and taken advantage of BECAUSE I LOVED THE KIDS. And by the time I left they were much more well behaved then when I started and they absolutly LOVED me..... children NEED to be disciplined. It shows them that they are loved and that their caregiviers actually care about them. I spent more than double the amount of time with them than their parents did and that is why they acted out. They were absolutly starved for attention.

I just am appaled that you have the nerve to speak to me like you have any idea who I am.

And again..... you probably missed the smiley face at the end of my post.... I WAS KIDDING.

[rtsmichele]

I'm sorry, but abuse is abuse. i don't care if it's a small child abusing a defenseless dog, or an adult abusing a defenseless child.

It's humiliating and terrifying for either of the abused.

In as much as it's not OK for a man to slap a woman because she has insulted his "lady" it's not OK for some who is stronger/more powerful to physically abuse anyone else who is weaker.

Abusing someone because they abuse someone just perpetuates the cycle.

Abuse is abuse is abuse and it's wrong.



Michele :-(

[joeyandtanksmom]

I didn't read all the posts, but I would just like to mention that your baby was more scared than hurt...when my Joey was about 6 months old, my mom's friend's kid picked him up and started swinging him around by his arms (like...spinning around holding him just by his arms...not around like a windmill). I of course immediately jumped up and grabbed him back and explained to little Liberty why this wasn't ok to do, but Joey wasn't hurt at all. Actually, Joey was fine within about 5 minutes, and he LOVES children and babies to this day! I think that it was probably not handled the best way by you or the mother of this child. maybe you could have explained to the child why this was wrong, and then calmly mentioned to the mother that their kid was doing that, and that you think they might benefit from being told by a parent what is and isn't appropriate to do with small, fragile animals.

[DerbyLayne]

Originally Posted by HendrixandLucy

and also, YES, childcare was my first choice at the time. I absolutly adore children and was with that family for three years even though I was completely under paid and taken advantage of BECAUSE I LOVED THE KIDS. And by the time I left they were much more well behaved then when I started and they absolutly LOVED me..... children NEED to be disciplined. It shows them that they are loved and that their caregiviers actually care about them. I spent more than double the amount of time with them than their parents did and that is why they acted out. They were absolutly starved for attention.

I just am appaled that you have the nerve to speak to me like you have any idea who I am.

And again..... you probably missed the smiley face at the end of my post.... I WAS KIDDING.

Calm down.

You're right, I don't know you- but you made quite the post there and I commented it.

Sorry you are APPALLED, but next time- if childcare was your first choice? Maybe you should think before you say things like wishing the dog "bites that little brat" smiley face or no smiley face...

I have a sense that you are angry, but you are very parental-blaming this situation. (nevermind that you felt more of a parent in your nanny position, but I don't know the parents side of the situation... so I won't go into that!)

I understand that kids need discipline (proper CARE maybe is the better term!), but no one deserves to be hurt.

While parents should be watching their children, they also don't watch them 100% of the time when they are around a group of people their parents know (in a house). It's boring for a kid to stick by moms side, and I would have assumed that the kid was off with some other kid, or chatting it up with someone's else' mom or another adult. I know these things take 2 seconds to happen, but no one is perfect.

"It takes an army to raise a child". If no one saw the kid wander off, then what does that say for the people there? That no one cared to keep an eye out for her kid either... Something bad could have happened!

People make mistakes, but in no way shape or form did that kid deserve what he got.

I say shame on every single adult present.