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stormharpy · 09-27-2005, 11:59 AM

And i have considered breeding, because i'd like to keep one baby for myself. it would be nice to tell the future parents of the other babies "THIS IS NOT A PUREBRED" or "THIS IS A PUREBRED". It doesn't matter, it's not about money, i would just like to know for the record.

Ponyup · 09-27-2005, 12:00 PM

My pup was 4 lbs at 8 weeks, 5 lbs at 10 weeks, and 6 lbs at 12weeks. But now is only 7.2 at 20 weeks. they can go through growth spurts. I called him my little line backer because he was stocky and solid....well just recently he hit another growth spurt and is now tall and skinny. you just never know. I don't think the DNA is necessary. In the way two regular pups can have a tiny pup. Two standard dogs can also have a huge, by comparison, pup. If you were planning on showing I am very sorry....there is still a chance it could stay under 7 lbs, but it doesn't sound good.

txshopper73 · 09-27-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stormharpy

Would it be in my best interest to get a DNA test?? how much is that??

I don't know the procedures of DNA testing with DRA (have never heard of them) but with AKC...if you question the sire of your puppy, you contact AKC. It's $500. If it is PROVEN that the sire is not the sire of the pup, you get the $500 back. If it is NOT PROVEN...then it goes into some type of AKC account...basically, you don't get your money back.

Gazou · 09-27-2005, 12:08 PM

12 pounds doesn't mean that she is not a purebred one . My friend Audrey have a 3 pounds girl , the mother is 10 pounds and the father is 9 pounds . Her breeder asked her to have Sybil bred to a smaller male so she could start a breeding partnership . Audrey didn't go for the craps of her breeder and have has Sybil spayed .

spydergurl · 09-27-2005, 12:18 PM

I have an 18 lb girl and a 10 lb girl, both sisters/littermates from the same parents. The parents are 6 and 7 lbs. Go figure!!?? But I love them, no matter what size, as you do and will, I'm sure!

leximax · 09-27-2005, 12:18 PM

DRA is Dog Registry of America. I got a beautiful certifcate with a seal on it from them. One you could display however the CKC - Continental Kennel Club gave a lousy certificate that looks like a little gift certicate!!! I have been lied to by every breeder I've ever dealt with regarding their expected full grown size and I've had to fight for papers every time!! I think it's ridiculous and I'm glad I won't be looking anymore and if I ever do I don't think I would pay what I did and I won't care what size or if they have papers because its just not worth it! Don't get me wrong I wouldn't give any of mine back and we love them to pieces but I definately am fed up with my experiences so far! All I can say I guess in retrospect it was worth it because they are all healthy!

stormharpy · 09-27-2005, 12:23 PM

so do you like the DRA?? i also requested a pedigree, is that just as frame-able?

krystenah · 09-27-2005, 12:24 PM

Benji is 12 lbs... at 2 years (so it doesn't mean its not a purebred), and Chloe is 6 lbs and 9 months. Chloe's parents were both 4 lbs... she is short and has a big belly. I love the bigger yorkies.. don't have to worry as much.

yorkieusa · 09-27-2005, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by krystenah

Benji is 12 lbs... at 2 years (so it doesn't mean its not a purebred), and Chloe is 6 lbs and 9 months. Chloe's parents were both 4 lbs... she is short and has a big belly. I love the bigger yorkies.. don't have to worry as much.

Ditto that a thousand times!

leximax · 09-27-2005, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by stormharpy

so do you like the DRA?? i also requested a pedigree, is that just as frame-able?

I dont' have any problem with DRA but I didn't get a pedigree with mine so I don't know but it should be since the registration was.

klogan · 09-27-2005, 03:27 PM

Stomper, as many as you may know, is registered and is 15 pounds at 10 months old. I think he is still growing...

His mother was 5 and father was 7 pounds. Stomper looks like a yorkie, acts like a yorkie, but just a little heavier than most!

I question if Stomper if full breed, but I really don't care. I don't plan to breed him though.

If this helps, he was 3.3 pounds at 8 weeks and just kept growing. Poor guy...I was told he would be 7-8 pounds full grown so I only feed him for that weight. Now I know why he was always hungry!!

Poor thing. Now I feed him for a 15-20 pound dog since he is such a big boy! Got to love him. Here is a recent pic of my cutie pie!

YorkieRose · 09-27-2005, 04:05 PM

If you want my advise...let her eat all she wants, she is a puppy and need to eat. She is already genetically programmed to be what she is going to be..a big girl.

The breeder pulled one on you..you said thousands was spent. How do you value a Yorkie? Tough one..but most reputable breeders would say $500/700 for her. I fix that price because she is an oversize, down earred, pet quality girl not for showing or breeding..just for major loving and she fits that category perfectly.

If she is not AKC then I am not sure if DRA even requires DNA..I think only AKC requires it be done..and then it is at the expense of the owner..I was told it is $500..could be way off.

txshopper73 · 09-27-2005, 05:12 PM

Customer-Driven DNA Complaint Policy

Effective July 1, 2002: Any AKC customer who questions the recorded parentage of a dog or litter may submit a complaint in writing to the AKC requesting DNA testing. The complaint must be accompanied by a deposit of $500.00. If the allegation is sustained the deposit is returned. If the allegation is not sustained, the deposit is forfeited and becomes the property of The American Kennel Club.

In cases where parentage is shown to be incorrect, AKC will work with customers to correct the registrations of dogs and litters when possible. The responsible parties will be billed for the DNA processing costs and registration correction fees. Registration services will be placed on hold until payment is made. When corrections cannot be made, the necessary registrations will be cancelled. The AKC disciplinary procedures will apply to exclusions discovered as a result of this policy

This was taken directly from AKC.org.

Capone'sMommie · 09-27-2005, 05:23 PM

Capone had the same issue. He went through a huge growth spurt very early. Our vet told me the same thing as far as doubling his weight after a couple months and it turned out to be true for us. He is 9 months of age and 13 lbs. This is a purebreed, papered dog. I was so upset when I found out that he was not going to be small at first. I got over it pretty quick though. It just seemed like he kept growing and the vet assured us he was not overweight, infact he is very athletic. He was already nuertered, which was great because we have no intentions of breeding or showing him. The bonus on having a bigger Yorkie is they are not as fragile. We love our little guy so much and get tons of complimants on him.

bonmur · 09-27-2005, 06:49 PM

FWIW The AKC certificate isnt all that beautiful or lovely. The Pedigree's are even pretty plain .All of mine have been akc except for one that was double registered Akc/ckc.
Bonnie

09-27-2005, 12:00 PM	#17
Ponyup YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern Indiana Posts: 1,252	My pup was 4 lbs at 8 weeks, 5 lbs at 10 weeks, and 6 lbs at 12weeks. But now is only 7.2 at 20 weeks. they can go through growth spurts. I called him my little line backer because he was stocky and solid....well just recently he hit another growth spurt and is now tall and skinny. you just never know. I don't think the DNA is necessary. In the way two regular pups can have a tiny pup. Two standard dogs can also have a huge, by comparison, pup. If you were planning on showing I am very sorry....there is still a chance it could stay under 7 lbs, but it doesn't sound good. __________________ Ponyup Mom to LOGAN

09-27-2005, 12:24 PM	#23
krystenah YT Addict Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Arkansas Posts: 386	Benji is 12 lbs... at 2 years (so it doesn't mean its not a purebred), and Chloe is 6 lbs and 9 months. Chloe's parents were both 4 lbs... she is short and has a big belly. I love the bigger yorkies.. don't have to worry as much. __________________ Benji and Chloe

09-27-2005, 03:27 PM	#26
klogan YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 661	Stomper, as many as you may know, is registered and is 15 pounds at 10 months old. I think he is still growing... His mother was 5 and father was 7 pounds. Stomper looks like a yorkie, acts like a yorkie, but just a little heavier than most! I question if Stomper if full breed, but I really don't care. I don't plan to breed him though. If this helps, he was 3.3 pounds at 8 weeks and just kept growing. Poor guy...I was told he would be 7-8 pounds full grown so I only feed him for that weight. Now I know why he was always hungry!! Poor thing. Now I feed him for a 15-20 pound dog since he is such a big boy! Got to love him. Here is a recent pic of my cutie pie! Attached Thumbnails __________________ Kimberly & Stomper

09-27-2005, 04:05 PM	#27
YorkieRose No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 8,577	puppy If you want my advise...let her eat all she wants, she is a puppy and need to eat. She is already genetically programmed to be what she is going to be..a big girl. The breeder pulled one on you..you said thousands was spent. How do you value a Yorkie? Tough one..but most reputable breeders would say $500/700 for her. I fix that price because she is an oversize, down earred, pet quality girl not for showing or breeding..just for major loving and she fits that category perfectly. If she is not AKC then I am not sure if DRA even requires DNA..I think only AKC requires it be done..and then it is at the expense of the owner..I was told it is $500..could be way off.

09-27-2005, 05:12 PM	#28
txshopper73 Donating YT 14K Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 14,226 Blog Entries: 1	Customer-Driven DNA Complaint Policy Effective July 1, 2002: Any AKC customer who questions the recorded parentage of a dog or litter may submit a complaint in writing to the AKC requesting DNA testing. The complaint must be accompanied by a deposit of $500.00. If the allegation is sustained the deposit is returned. If the allegation is not sustained, the deposit is forfeited and becomes the property of The American Kennel Club. In cases where parentage is shown to be incorrect, AKC will work with customers to correct the registrations of dogs and litters when possible. The responsible parties will be billed for the DNA processing costs and registration correction fees. Registration services will be placed on hold until payment is made. When corrections cannot be made, the necessary registrations will be cancelled. The AKC disciplinary procedures will apply to exclusions discovered as a result of this policy This was taken directly from AKC.org. __________________ As always...JMO (Just My Opinion) Kimberley

09-27-2005, 11:59 AM	#16
stormharpy No Longer a Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Internet Posts: 31	And i have considered breeding, because i'd like to keep one baby for myself. it would be nice to tell the future parents of the other babies "THIS IS NOT A PUREBRED" or "THIS IS A PUREBRED". It doesn't matter, it's not about money, i would just like to know for the record.

09-27-2005, 12:08 PM	#19
Gazou YT 2000 Club Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 2,180	12 pounds doesn't mean that she is not a purebred one . My friend Audrey have a 3 pounds girl , the mother is 10 pounds and the father is 9 pounds . Her breeder asked her to have Sybil bred to a smaller male so she could start a breeding partnership . Audrey didn't go for the craps of her breeder and have has Sybil spayed .

09-27-2005, 12:18 PM	#20
spydergurl YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: California Posts: 516	I have an 18 lb girl and a 10 lb girl, both sisters/littermates from the same parents. The parents are 6 and 7 lbs. Go figure!!?? But I love them, no matter what size, as you do and will, I'm sure!

09-27-2005, 12:18 PM	#21
leximax Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hazleton, PA Posts: 186	DRA is Dog Registry of America. I got a beautiful certifcate with a seal on it from them. One you could display however the CKC - Continental Kennel Club gave a lousy certificate that looks like a little gift certicate!!! I have been lied to by every breeder I've ever dealt with regarding their expected full grown size and I've had to fight for papers every time!! I think it's ridiculous and I'm glad I won't be looking anymore and if I ever do I don't think I would pay what I did and I won't care what size or if they have papers because its just not worth it! Don't get me wrong I wouldn't give any of mine back and we love them to pieces but I definately am fed up with my experiences so far! All I can say I guess in retrospect it was worth it because they are all healthy!

09-27-2005, 12:23 PM	#22
stormharpy No Longer a Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Internet Posts: 31	so do you like the DRA?? i also requested a pedigree, is that just as frame-able?

09-27-2005, 05:23 PM	#29
Capone'sMommie Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: California Posts: 37	Capone had the same issue. He went through a huge growth spurt very early. Our vet told me the same thing as far as doubling his weight after a couple months and it turned out to be true for us. He is 9 months of age and 13 lbs. This is a purebreed, papered dog. I was so upset when I found out that he was not going to be small at first. I got over it pretty quick though. It just seemed like he kept growing and the vet assured us he was not overweight, infact he is very athletic. He was already nuertered, which was great because we have no intentions of breeding or showing him. The bonus on having a bigger Yorkie is they are not as fragile. We love our little guy so much and get tons of complimants on him. __________________ Stacie and Capone (Momma's )

09-27-2005, 06:49 PM	#30
bonmur YT Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UT Posts: 306	FWIW The AKC certificate isnt all that beautiful or lovely. The Pedigree's are even pretty plain .All of mine have been akc except for one that was double registered Akc/ckc. Bonnie