New Yorkie Mommy

[yorkie mad]

welcome to YT and congrats on your new fur baby. Your gonna love it here.

[MI Yorkielover]

[QUOTE=RachelandSadie;2800622]personally, i would highly advise not using Eukanuba either, it has a high grain content and from experience with our golden retriever, that brand can cause many issues including kidney failure. QUOTE]

I have never heard of this. Eukanuba is a quality, breed specific dog food. IMO, if this were true and could be dangerous it would not be recommended by many breeders and veterinarians alike. I suggest you ask your vet.
Jackie & my Sophie

[TessieToes]

Hi, i think there have been some really good responses on this forum. I would just like to add that 9 weeks seems very, very young for your little one to have been brought to a new home. Usually breeders wait at least 12 weeks (at the earliest!!) before letting anyone bring them home. Especially with yorkies because they are so small, it's better to keep them longer to make sure they are getting the right nutrition. With that said, i would definitely switch him back to what the breeder was feeding him before, at least for the first week or 2 and then you should gradually switch the brands. Mix 3/4 of the old food with 1/4 of the new food for a few days, then mix half and half, then 1/4 old 3/4 new, until eventually he is eating just the new brand. This should be done very gradually since Yorkies tummies are VERY sensitive. I'm saying all this because since he is so young and has been taken from his mother and litter mates so early, he is more prone to stress. So his tummy problems could be a mixture of stress and his food change.

Oh and yes, Eukanuba is very bad! If you look at the first 10 ingredients it includens chicken by-product, chicken fat and beet pulp!!! By-products can cause lots of health issues and chicken fat and beet pulp are also used in bad dog foods because it tricks the dogs into eating something that they normally would never eat. Please consider this. I've been feeding Innova and my pup loves it.

[margaritaville]

Originally Posted by MinorTreblesMom

MMMMMMMMMMMMMM wonder why my profile pic doesn't show SIGH

If you mean the picture to the left
<---- it an avitar not the profile picture. Welcome I hope you little one is better

[MI Yorkielover]

I want to feed my puppy good wholesome food and so I looked it up. Here are the actual ingredients taken from the product information on Eukanuba puppy kibble.
The Eukanuba puppy kibble and what each supports.
100% Nutrition, 0% Filler: Your dog deserves the best, so there's no room for fillers like artificial preservatives, flavors or colors in our food. In fact, every carefully chosen ingredient serves a specific purpose in promoting your dog's overall health.
Chicken as the #1 Ingredient: Real chicken as the #1 ingredient provides an excellent source of protein.
FOS (fructooligosaccharides): This Prebiotic works in your puppy's digestive tract to support his strong defenses.
Natural Fish Oil for DHA: Provides DHA, a brain-building nutrient that helps develop smart, trainable puppies. Fish oil also provides omega-3 fatty acids for healthy skin and coat.
Wholesome Grains: Made with highly digestible corn, grain sorghum and rice to help maintain healthy blood sugar and energy levels.
Antioxidants: Made with antioxidants such as vitamin E, to support your dog's immune system.
DigestiCare Plus: Made with beet pulp fiber and FOS that work with your puppy's natural defenses to help maintain a healthy digestive tract.
I see no chicken by product or fat other than omega 3. I am open to a better product out there if the above is misleading. It sounds healthy to me or I wouldn't feed it to my dog. I would like to know if I and my vet are incorrect and why. I only want what's best for Sophie
Jackie & Sophie

[Princessangela3]

Welcome to yorkie talk. I too think your pups name is a great one. You must be a music fan! This is a wonderful place to learn about your yorkie. There are a lot of really smart nice people here who will help you learn what you need to know. Good Luck with your boy!

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by MI Yorkielover

I want to feed my puppy good wholesome food and so I looked it up. Here are the actual ingredients taken from the product information on Eukanuba puppy kibble.
The Eukanuba puppy kibble and what each supports.
100% Nutrition, 0% Filler: Your dog deserves the best, so there's no room for fillers like artificial preservatives, flavors or colors in our food. In fact, every carefully chosen ingredient serves a specific purpose in promoting your dog's overall health.
Chicken as the #1 Ingredient: Real chicken as the #1 ingredient provides an excellent source of protein.
FOS (fructooligosaccharides): This Prebiotic works in your puppy's digestive tract to support his strong defenses.
Natural Fish Oil for DHA: Provides DHA, a brain-building nutrient that helps develop smart, trainable puppies. Fish oil also provides omega-3 fatty acids for healthy skin and coat.
Wholesome Grains: Made with highly digestible corn, grain sorghum and rice to help maintain healthy blood sugar and energy levels.
Antioxidants: Made with antioxidants such as vitamin E, to support your dog's immune system.
DigestiCare Plus: Made with beet pulp fiber and FOS that work with your puppy's natural defenses to help maintain a healthy digestive tract.
I see no chicken by product or fat other than omega 3. I am open to a better product out there if the above is misleading. It sounds healthy to me or I wouldn't feed it to my dog. I would like to know if I and my vet are incorrect and why. I only want what's best for Sophie
Jackie & Sophie

Here's my beef about anything made as "dog food" personal opinions here: anything put into dog food that has to be crushed up and baked and you are never really sure what you are getting i personally don't trust. ALL vets recommend science diet, or eukanuba, or royal canin. what they don't tell you is the history of the dog food industry that goes back to slaughtering horses for dog food or using anything that was not FDA approved for people in the dog foods. those "grains" you are reading about have been known to be rotten or contaminated in the past and there was a huge dog food scare because of it, i'm not sure if it was for sure Eukanuba, but something from walmart that dad bought about killed our dog and still made her sick so that she died a few years later.

i don't trust any of them and a lot of YTers agree and some don't there are many more benefits to a raw diet, whether you buy raw diets or make them, it's healthier, you KNOW what's in there because you put it there, and you don't put CORN into it which causes allergies and other issues pretty often. there are tons of thread on here about Raw diets and recipes and several of them i'm talking about the history of dog food as a way to get rid of the rotten grains and chop house leftovers that humans won't eat. my aunt and I have a philosophy..."only human grade products for our precious pups"

i'm not trying to convince you to do it my way, i'm just telling you what i've learned and seen throughout the years. if you like kibble, try wellness, or timberwolf organic, or another organic or natural food, but be careful because even those aren't the best things all the time for our pets. dry dog food has a lot of perservatives besides bad meals, meats, and grains. and i would rather feed freshly thawed out food than preserved foods.

anyways you'll have to decide what you feel is best and take my opinions for just that. it's totally up to each person how they feel about dog foods, but here's how i feel personally about it.

hope that helps you are going to do just fine with the puppy, keep some nutrical or karo syrup on hand for hypoglycemia and just be a mommy and take care of her, i got Sadie at 7 weeks and was told that's too young and health wise she did fine on her new raw diet and i had her off the diamond puppy food crap the breeder gave me after a week.

she's healthy as can be, she just bites a lot due to her leaving the litter too soon.

good luck hon, friend me if you'd like or PM me anytime if you need anything or want my raw recipe

[MI Yorkielover]

RachelandSadie-
I am interested in your theory on diet. I found your above post and opinion very informative and well thought out. Thank You .
Jackie & Sophie

[MinorTreblesMom]

Originally Posted by Princessangela3

Welcome to yorkie talk. I too think your pups name is a great one. You must be a music fan! This is a wonderful place to learn about your yorkie. There are a lot of really smart nice people here who will help you learn what you need to know. Good Luck with your boy!

Yes my husband and I and all our children are music peeps..Hubby and I metin college and majored in Vocal Ed. I am learning a lot but am so confused LOL

Hugs
Kim

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by MI Yorkielover

RachelandSadie-
I am interested in your theory on diet. I found your above post and opinion very informative and well thought out. Thank You .
Jackie & Sophie

aww thanks! i try, here's the raw diet for anyone interested. Sadie loved it from the day i brought her home and my aunt's dog Bailey has been on it for two years and had no tarter at her check up this year...it's the raw

This is from my aunt Karrie:

Absolutely! I'd love to share it. The recipe came from my mom who's hobby is dog nutrition. She's very serious about it!! She has helped others who have dogs with special needs by using this basic recipe and then adding supplements based on their situtation.

I usually double the batch:
1/2 lb lean ground beef (80% or leaner)
2 can sardines (or canned salmon of the same weight)
1 cup cooked rice
1/2 c. veg of choice (spinach, carrots, etc.)
2 large eggs (slightly cooked)
3/4 tablespoon bone meal
1/2 teaspoon potassium
1 tablespoon safflower oil
= 1569 calories

I find the sardines rather smelly - so I substitute 4 oz of cottage cheese or ground turkey (I usually do both!). My hubby hunts, so I sometimes replace the hamburger with deerburger. Do not substitute ground pork. Since I removed the sardines (a very important ingredient), then I squeeze a fish oil caplet every other day over her breakfast. I also add 1/3 childrens multivitamin daily (the ones without artificial sweetener). Feel free to add 1 oz of liver to the batch - its good for them. All human grade products.

I get the bone meal and potassium from iherb.com.

I first made a batch without all the supplements - just to see if Bailey liked it. SHE LOVED IT - so its been this recipe ever since!

I serve one spoonful per serving (the larger spoons) twice a day. It doesnt seem like much - I know. I store it in 10 oz plastic containers about 3/4 full in the freezer- one container lasts about 3 days.

Tip: I put the raw eggs in the hot rice and let it sit a while (hence partially cooked eggs)

Good luck!!! Let me know if you need anything!

[MinorTreblesMom]

Originally Posted by TessieToes

Hi, i think there have been some really good responses on this forum. I would just like to add that 9 weeks seems very, very young for your little one to have been brought to a new home. Usually breeders wait at least 12 weeks (at the earliest!!) before letting anyone bring them home. Especially with yorkies because they are so small, it's better to keep them longer to make sure they are getting the right nutrition. With that said, i would definitely switch him back to what the breeder was feeding him before, at least for the first week or 2 and then you should gradually switch the brands. Mix 3/4 of the old food with 1/4 of the new food for a few days, then mix half and half, then 1/4 old 3/4 new, until eventually he is eating just the new brand. This should be done very gradually since Yorkies tummies are VERY sensitive. I'm saying all this because since he is so young and has been taken from his mother and litter mates so early, he is more prone to stress. So his tummy problems could be a mixture of stress and his food change.

Oh and yes, Eukanuba is very bad! If you look at the first 10 ingredients it includens chicken by-product, chicken fat and beet pulp!!! By-products can cause lots of health issues and chicken fat and beet pulp are also used in bad dog foods because it tricks the dogs into eating something that they normally would never eat. Please consider this. I've been feeding Innova and my pup loves it.

The breeder sent him home as his mother lives across the country was diagnosed with cancer and the family was all going to be with her in her final days. I wasn't expecting her quite yet....but since my vet and their vet both knew each other and knew my experience with small dogs[ had a toy poodle and shih tzu for years] they decided to send him to me instead of boarding him with the vet or a foster inbetween[ since I also use to rescue and foster all sorts of dogs]. I had stopped when I got sick and my brain went to mush hahah.....all this about the food is making my head spin.....LOL he's back on 3/4 purina puppy chow and 1/4 eukanuba for the time being...and it seems to have worked....I spoke with the breeders vet this morning.
Thanks all...I know we all have differing opinions what makes forums such a great place

[MinorTreblesMom]

Originally Posted by RachelandSadie

aww thanks! i try, here's the raw diet for anyone interested. Sadie loved it from the day i brought her home and my aunt's dog Bailey has been on it for two years and had no tarter at her check up this year...it's the raw

This is from my aunt Karrie:

Absolutely! I'd love to share it. The recipe came from my mom who's hobby is dog nutrition. She's very serious about it!! She has helped others who have dogs with special needs by using this basic recipe and then adding supplements based on their situtation.

I usually double the batch:
1/2 lb lean ground beef (80% or leaner)
2 can sardines (or canned salmon of the same weight)
1 cup cooked rice
1/2 c. veg of choice (spinach, carrots, etc.)
2 large eggs (slightly cooked)
3/4 tablespoon bone meal
1/2 teaspoon potassium
1 tablespoon safflower oil
= 1569 calories

I find the sardines rather smelly - so I substitute 4 oz of cottage cheese or ground turkey (I usually do both!). My hubby hunts, so I sometimes replace the hamburger with deerburger. Do not substitute ground pork. Since I removed the sardines (a very important ingredient), then I squeeze a fish oil caplet every other day over her breakfast. I also add 1/3 childrens multivitamin daily (the ones without artificial sweetener). Feel free to add 1 oz of liver to the batch - its good for them. All human grade products.

I get the bone meal and potassium from iherb.com.

I first made a batch without all the supplements - just to see if Bailey liked it. SHE LOVED IT - so its been this recipe ever since!

I serve one spoonful per serving (the larger spoons) twice a day. It doesnt seem like much - I know. I store it in 10 oz plastic containers about 3/4 full in the freezer- one container lasts about 3 days.

Tip: I put the raw eggs in the hot rice and let it sit a while (hence partially cooked eggs)

Good luck!!! Let me know if you need anything!

Thanks for posting in both places...i am getting lost here LOL
Kim

[TessieToes]

In regards to Eukanuba- you need to go to their website, under small breed puppy kibble, the list of all ingredients are listed at the bottom, here's the link. It has by-products and the other ingredients i was talking about before.

Small Breed Puppy Food | Eukanuba.com

[RachelandSadie]

Originally Posted by MinorTreblesMom

Thanks for posting in both places...i am getting lost here LOL
Kim

it's ok, you'll learn as you play around with it more, click on your own user name to go back to your own homepage. click on forums to go to all the forums and find a category with threads to read.

you will have a notification show up in yellow by your user name in the top right for private messages, PMs and for wall postings.

good luck and if you need help just hollar at me or the mods and admin for help