[QUOTE=sierrapups;2895941]The purpose of a breed club is to protect the integrity of the breed.

The purpose of the Colorful Yorkshire Terrier Club is to educate people about color genetics; it's meant to be a safe place for colorful breeders to network, advertise, and share photos of colorful yorkies and new litters.

It is obvious that these are not the intentions of Parti breeders as they are corrupting the endlessly hard work that went into developing the beautiful coloring on the Yorkshire Terrier.

We're not the ones who were throwing our surprise off colored pups, into the rivers or sticking them in the freezer because they were born the wrong color. We're the ones who want to promote the off colors that are naturally occurring in the yorkshire terrier breed - we are not introducing genes that are not already in the gene pool of some of our dogs.

There are many breeds who have different colored dogs and they often have separate divisions for showing variations in size, coat texture and color. We are not corrupting the endlessly hard work that went into developing the beautiful coloring on the Yorkshire Terrier, since I'm sure no show breeder is going to be breeding to a parti.

They have also chosen to incorporate the Biewer Terrier without understanding the genetic make up of the Biewer.
To belong to a club that is exploiting both of these breeds is inherently wrong. The work that has gone into establishing the Biewer Terrier has to be protected from those that don't understand or chose to not understand what it takes to nurture a breed.
Free counseling from someone that has no knowledge is a very dangerous thing. It would be far more productive if the haughty attitude JK has would be put aside and if she would produce the actual facts and paperwork, DNA and studies that link the original Partis to the Biewers. Then again she would have to know that the Biewer has evolved into the dog it is today away from the Parti, thus the mixing of the two breeds should be taboo

Who are "they," that you're referring to?

And there it is....
…..The biewer has envoled in to the dog it is today.

Want happened to keeping the integrity of the breed as it was meant to be ???

The American breeders took the dream of a dead man and change it so much from what he started .
You have stripped down the original name Mr Biewer gave the dog.
And from the 6 years in between the time of this man death and the dogs coming to American
Someone bred mix/s into it to change the dog.
So, was it the greedy Germans that did it to keep up with the supply and demand or was it the American breeders who are responsible ??
You guy took the dog and changed it up and around so that the dog is no longer the Biewer Yorkshire Terrier Ala Pon Pom … Why even keep the Biewer name ??

Oh, I sure some of you think you honor the man by what your going but since he is not here to say what he think about what has done to his dream …I guess we’ll never know.
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Now, since this dog has been turned in to just a mixed designer breed with compromised linage.
I can’t see any serious Parti breeders wanting to breed this into their lines.

The purpose of the Colorful Yorkshire Terrier Club is to educate people about color genetics; it's meant to be a safe place for colorful breeders to network, advertise, and share photos of colorful yorkies and new litters.

Please share with us the genetic specialists that you are working with in order to be able to educate people on the color genes. Can you say what specific gene is responsible for your dogs coloring?

We're not the ones who were throwing our surprise off colored pups, into the rivers or sticking them in the freezer because they were born the wrong color. We're the ones who want to promote the off colors that are naturally occurring in the yorkshire terrier breed - we are not introducing genes that are not already in the gene pool of some of our dogs.

Are you saying that the Yorkie breeders that have worked very hard to establish the Yorkshire Terrier are committing these acts? Have you ever heard of spay/neuter and placing them in pet homes? That is what responsible breeders do.

There are many breeds who have different colored dogs and they often have separate divisions for showing variations in size, coat texture and color. We are not corrupting the endlessly hard work that went into developing the beautiful coloring on the Yorkshire Terrier, since I'm sure no show breeder is going to be breeding to a parti.

Yes but they do this in conjunction with the Parent Club.



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The purpose of the Colorful Yorkshire Terrier Club is to educate people about color genetics; it's meant to be a safe place for colorful breeders to network, advertise, and share photos of colorful yorkies and new litters.

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We're not the ones who were throwing our surprise off colored pups, into the rivers or sticking them in the freezer because they were born the wrong color. We're the ones who want to promote the off colors that are naturally occurring in the yorkshire terrier breed - we are not introducing genes that are not already in the gene pool of some of our dogs.

Are you saying that the Yorkie breeders that have worked very hard to establish the Yorkshire Terrier are committing these acts? Have you ever heard of spay/neuter and placing them in pet homes? That is what responsible breeders do.

There are many breeds who have different colored dogs and they often have separate divisions for showing variations in size, coat texture and color. We are not corrupting the endlessly hard work that went into developing the beautiful coloring on the Yorkshire Terrier, since I'm sure no show breeder is going to be breeding to a parti.

Yes but they do this in conjunction with the Parent Club.



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I believe that anyone can get that information from the AKC. We have in our posession, a copy of the letter from the AKC with their opion from the results of all the DNA that was provided to them on the parti colored yorkies which states that they are satisfied the the gene that causes the parti coloring is part of the original makeup of the yorkshire terrier.. It is no secret.

if you think that my not getting angry over situations that I cannot control gives me a haughty attitude, then so be it, I cannot colntrol that thought so it is not worth my time worrying about it.

As for the purpose of a club!! Anyone can start a club and declare that they are against anything they want. Actually accomplishing that goal is a much more difficult task.

neither you nor I nor the YTCA nor any other club can control what the rest of the public does. So if your clubs goal is to try to do that then no wonder you are so angry, you have set impossible goals for yourself.

The idea that the parti color breeders are corrujpting the entire yorkshire terrier breed is ridicujlous.

Our club believes that all of the naturral colors of the yorkshire terrier should be allowed. that to eliminate those genes from the yorkie is deterimental to the breed. Do we try to force our beliefs on the YTCA? No we do not, because we know that we cannot control them any more than they can control us.

Im sure that all of you will think this is a ridculous thought, but perhaps one day the YTCA will find that along with eliminating the various color genes they have also lost other important genes, and that by us preserving those color genes we will help to save the breed from extinction.

When you consider the fact that man of the old time breeders kept a red leg yorkie (which was certainly not meeting the standard) in their program to help with coat texture, that thought is not so ridiculous.

The day may come when we have the last word after all.

No matter what your club believes it is not worth getting angry over things that you cannot control. Be proactive, get involved, do what you can but realize that you have not control over what others do.

keep your mind open you might discover that other opinions are not so bad.

FYI I do not believe in breeding to the biewers because they are not akc and they aren't even sure if they are yorkies I am not sure why others do it.

I do not have the paperwork that links the partis to the Biewers. I'm not sure who has that. You could read back through this thread to find out.

Since I do not own a Biewer Terrier...really...what concern is it of yours on how I breed my AKC parti or my Biewer yorkie?

Could it be that AKC will never allow the registration of any Biewer (yorkie or terrier) that is still being bred back to the yorkie? Could this be fueling your clubs new found hatred for the parti yorkie? Or is it because a few parti breeders traced both the Biewer yorkie and the parti yorkie back to the same dog. :eek:

That did a lot of damage to your miraculous evolution into a new breed theory. :sidesplt:

I personally am excited that a few breeders of the Biewer Yorkshire has found a way to breed in some new yorkie lines without producing splitters. As long as the parents are health tested, and of good quality, and my German club still allows it...I will continue to breed my Biewers this way.

And if anyone is breeding Biewers to yorkies and registering the resulting pups with the AKC...they should be reported. But of course...you don't have any proof. You just say since the parti yorkie is looking prettier now-a-days...they must be breeding in the Biewer. It only took a few generations of quality AKC yorkies to do that. :)

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As for the genetics, I will let Sue answer that, but I really do not know why this question is asked repeatedly and answered repeatedly.

As for the breeders culling innocent little pup;pies for being born the wrong color. Ya it happened. That is no secret. Hopefully it is not happening today but in the past it did.

yes they do it in conjunctiopn with the parent club, but those parent clubs did not purposely disqualify a color that is part of the natural make up of the breed.

We have different beliefs as to what colors shuld be allowed. They did not create the breed, they do not own the breed and someday they might get some opened minded people in there and they will lift the DQ.

I have a yorkiepoo also
 

:D I have a yorkiepoo along with my yorkie and she is just adorable to me. No one can fault a mixed breed, just so we do not lose are wonderful
full breed dogs.
I think when it comes down to it it is that they do not have health issues! We know we have a few irresponsible breeders, even with the full breed dogs.
I think they are just adorable mix and have the most beautiful coat on them. I bet the disposition is really wonderful also, my CC has a little yorkie and a lot poodle. I just like the mix of anything with York. LOL
Hugs
Mary