Originally Posted by 3FurryFaces (Post 2856978)

From what I read so far, the AKC recognizes the partis as yokies but not the Biewers,
; the Biwers Clubs don't recognize the partis as the same dog since they don't trace back to the original line of Biewers... right?

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2857012)

OK I did not know that you could register AKC dogs in other registries.

For my own purposes, I, Myself would not breed the two together because I want to stick swith the AKC registry.. Some where along the line, in the future, I might change my mind on that. i do like the Biewers,

Kpstoybox. I would love to see pictures of your biewer/parti puppies.

I have a question about the colors on the biewers. I have heard that on some of the Biewers, the color on their head is not changing to tan. Is this true? If so what is your theory on that.

Originally Posted by livingdustmops (Post 2856300)

I will try to answer your questions.

I believe they are the same dog.

A couple of litters were born in a kennel in England ... some of the puppies went to Germany via the Biewers and some went to the United States. Mr. Biewer bred his Yorkies who both carried the piebald gene and produced a litter of white/blue/tan dogs. He was so impressed with the look of this litter that he started inbreeding to continue this line of dogs and to put the "look" on his dogs (which we know is the standard). The dogs that went to the US were bred and was shocking to the breeders and sold the dogs as pets or never acknowledged what happened. I have shorten the story but hopefully you understand what I believed happened.

No one was doing DNA over 25 years ago and in fact AKC just started in 1999 (I believe) so every Yorkie born you just have to trust the breeders told the truth....It does not help with the start of the breed be it...Yorkie, Biewer or Parti.

AKC does not set the standard...it is the parent club and in this case YTCA and they will not acknowledge these dogs for the show ring...this is why Parti's can be registered but not enter the showring.

I find it interesting that close to 20 AKC breeds have a piebald gene that is accepted but YTCA implies that a maltese got in this breed and caused all of these dogs to throw the different color of the Biewers..oh, and it happened 50 some years ago. Doesn't make sense to me.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2857012)

Kpstoybox. I would love to see pictures of your biewer/parti puppies.

Originally Posted by Breny (Post 2857085)

I am not Kp, but I can show you a perfect example of a Biewer pup with a Biewer/Parti breeding.
The sire being Kp's Nice structured, nice head piece, and health tested male.....:) Dam is Biewer..parents imported from Germany

Originally Posted by Breny (Post 2857085)

I am not Kp, but I can show you a perfect example of a Biewer pup with a Biewer/Parti breeding.
The sire being Kp's Nice structured, nice head piece, and health tested male.....:) Dam is Biewer..parents imported from Germany

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 2857585)

It depends on which registry your Biewer is registered under, It cannot be registered with AKC. Only AKC registered yorkies can be registered with AKC. Which is why i went into Parti's instead of Biewers. I love both of them since really they are the same dogs in a sense. Both the Parti and the Biewer came from Streamglen Kennels and the same dogs are in both pedigrees which is Streamglen Shaun, Streamglen Robinhood, streamglen richard. Does this not make them the same?

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 2857585)

It depends on which registry your Biewer is registered under, It cannot be registered with AKC. Only AKC registered yorkies can be registered with AKC. Which is why i went into Parti's instead of Biewers. I love both of them since really they are the same dogs in a sense. Both the Parti and the Biewer came from Streamglen Kennels and the same dogs are in both pedigrees which is Streamglen Shaun, Streamglen Robinhood, streamglen richard. Does this not make them the same?

Originally Posted by Breezeaway (Post 2857585)

It depends on which registry your Biewer is registered under, It cannot be registered with AKC. Only AKC registered yorkies can be registered with AKC. Which is why i went into Parti's instead of Biewers. I love both of them since really they are the same dogs in a sense. Both the Parti and the Biewer came from Streamglen Kennels and the same dogs are in both pedigrees which is Streamglen Shaun, Streamglen Robinhood, streamglen richard. Does this not make them the same?

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2857696)

That is why I went with partis as well.

I think what is not being explained here, for those who are not knowledgable about the tri colored yorkies, is that the Biewers are actually partis, bc parti is a color not a breed.

So any tri colored yorkie is a parti colored yorkie, but only those that are from the Biewer line are Biewers.