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Old 08-08-2009, 07:57 AM   #1
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Default 4 month old yorkie bit HOLE in DH's finger!!!

So I've posted numerous times about my now 4 month old yorkie male who has had many issues with biting. I've posted around my numerous attempts - the clicker, the yelping, the crying (crying makes him jump at your face!!), the yelling as loud as possible "NO"!, sour apple spray (he liked ALL of the "no bite" sprays!!! :wtf) the time out method in the bathroom, in his crate, or simply leaving the room where he was as to show him that 'biting will get you no attention'. Time outs lasted no more than 10 minutes. That didn't work - he'd come out more hyper than ever! Next was the spray bottle method - as I read in here, no more than 3 sprays per time and a direct shot to the face or else he sees it as a game. Seemed to be working - but still a chore. We even had a trainer come for a two hour session to help us with the dog (yay! he can now sit on command, but can bite your lip off! ) Yesterday, he was playing fetch in the yard with hubby - and began chewing on a piece of *something*. Hubby, not sure what it was, went to check his mouth and Rocky BIT RIGHT THROUGH HIS FINGER! It was bad enough that it could've used a stitch! I've never seen this man bleed this bad - he was with a friend, who said he literally heard the "crack" of the breaking skin (hubby has big, TOUGH, skin - not an easy feat to break through!). Now I'm at a loss. I know everyone keeps saying they get better and neutering helps - then the billions of "have you tried this?" to accusations of under-training. But I've tried EVERYTHING in the book with this dog - if he doesn't cut this biting down I'll have to give him away... I'm scared to hold him!

What's sad is, me and my DH found out I have a rare autoimmune disease on top of severe endometriosis - so we bought this pup as sort of a baby replacement... to get our mind off of kids (we've been together for 7 years, married since October 5)... our luck has just been so bad and this is just breaking our hearts... please - have some good news for us... someone with a miraculous evil yorkie turned sweet heart over night?
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You have tried every type of punishment, but youhave not gotten to the route of the problem.

You need to watch some dog whisperer to get to the root of the problem. Mainly not allowing the dog to be the pack leader. He does not respect you as the pack leader, if he did, he would not bite you. That is what Cesar Milan teachs. How to become the pack leader.

Where did he come from? A pet store? or a private breeder? What do you know about how he was raised?
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My cousin had a Maltese that was the same way. She hired a trainer and they told her to use hot sauce...and it worked! When he would bite her she would say , no and he would taste the hot sauce and it only took him two times before it worked. After she would say no and he understood. The trainer also said to stick your finger in there mouth (making them gage). He was a pretty difficult case also and the trainer said that is why they had to use extreme corrections.

That helped her a lot but she also had to take him to doggie day care because he needed to be excercises more and that allowed him to burn off a lot of energy.
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My cousin had a Maltese that was the same way. She hired a trainer and they told her to use hot sauce...and it worked! When he would bite her she would say , no and he would taste the hot sauce and it only took him two times before it worked. After she would say no and he understood. The trainer also said to stick your finger in there mouth (making them gage). He was a pretty difficult case also and the trainer said that is why they had to use extreme corrections.

That helped her a lot but she also had to take him to dogie day care because he needed to be excercises more and that allowed him to burn off a lot of energy.
That sounds terrilbe. The object is to correct the behavior, not to punish the dog. If the puppy is biting there is a much bigger problem. The biting is the symptom, not the problem.

You can correct the biting but the problem of disrespect will still be there and manifest itself in other ways.
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The place I got him from was also very fishy too. They were selling him for $500.00 where as all the other Yorkies were 1k plus ::

As he's grown, I've noticed he doesn't look entirely yorkie to me, but I'm no yorkie expert. But for one, to me, his snout/muzzle looks longer than the yorkies I'm used to seeing. He looks like a scoundral - like from Lady and the Tramp = recent pics of him:

He's also longer/lankier than any yorkie I've seen..

Will I ever be able to cuddle him and sleep with him like I always dreamt of?
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You have tried every type of punishment, but youhave not gotten to the route of the problem.

You need to watch some dog whisperer to get to the root of the problem. Mainly not allowing the dog to be the pack leader. He does not respect you as the pack leader, if he did, he would not bite you. That is what Cesar Milan teachs. How to become the pack leader.

Where did he come from? A pet store? or a private breeder? What do you know about how he was raised?
See he does not bite ME - he bites everyone BUTen me - including my husband. And we've tried alot of dog whisper techniques =( including the rolling the dog to his back and "nipping" the back/side neck skin. My hubby has even tried mouthing him in an attempt to physically ACT like a member of Rocky's pack.

Rocky doesn't bite me. If I'm mad at him he rolls right over. But this is ONLY with me. Any other human he treats like he's above them - and he's well socialized!

I got him from a breeder SHOP - again, fishy. In NYC
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He lo9oks like a yorkie to me. He is still puppy and puppies sometimes bite to explore and sometimes bite to be aggressive. The one time Chachi growled and acted like he was gonna bite My Husband flipped him over on his back and held him there and told him no bite. He never did it again. He had seen this on the dog whisperer. I think you need to learn to be your dogs leader. Also do not give up as they mellow as they age.
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Sounds like you have really tried to turn him around. The only thing I can tell you is that my Cali was terrible as a puppy as far a biting me and lunging at me. I honestly thought she was possessed. They can really hurt when they bite too. Cali grew out of it and is the sweetest nonaggressive girl. I did have a pom who was very aggressive it I tried to wipe her face or take something from her, she would snarl and bit me several times really bad (she was 12 lbs) and I never could get her to stop it, I just had to be very careful when she had something she shouldn't and had to quickly wipe her eyes so as not to get bit. She was fine at the vets, I could do anything to her and so could they. I think they thought I was crazy when I said she was mean, unit they say her shortly befor she passed go after my hand when I was holding her. She was fine with my other dogs and as long she didn't feel threatened she could be real sweet. She was from a pet store and I know now she must have been a puppy mill dog. I hope you can find something that works or he just grows out of it.
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Maybe the way he was raised prior to you getting him is still affecting him. I really am not sure what to advise. My Rocky was a little bit of a biter too. He has finally let up and no longer sinks his teeth when he play bites. He responded to the very loud hurt sound, like yelling "OW" and then ignoring him for a bit. He really hates being ignored so it worked. But you have already tried pretty much the same thing without success. Have you tried each method of an extended time? It has taken a few weeks to get through to my Rocky.

He really is still very young and has time to turn around. I wish you well and hope someone with more training experience comes up with an answer for you.
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I am no expert, so please take what I am saying with a grain of salt (and maybe some tequila ).... It seems like your puppy has claimed you. You may be his pack leader, but you belong to him. It seems like he is violent towards other people because he has bonded with you and only you. You might try some of those bonding/leadership roles with your DH being in control.

Or there might be some other problem...

Your Yorkie looks very Yorkie to me. Allie is very long. My mom tried to joke that she is part Dachshund.... not funny
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I am no expert but my miniature poodle was also very agressive when he was a young pup. One night I made a noise that scared him and when I went to reassure him he bit me hard on my hand. I had blood all over the carpet.

I've had many dogs and I've never backed with them. They back away. Usually just standing in front of them with an assertive attitude is enough to make them understand.

The poodle wouldn't stop growling at me even with my calmest voice. I punched him on his jaw (rather hard too and not too unlike Cesar Milan's bite) and he never bit after that. I was not mad but had the attitude that this was not acceptable in my house.

I think it's a bit drastic and I never had to do that with any of my other dogs but I knew I had to nip it in the butt. I took obedience classes with him after that and even today I have to stay firm with him or I'm sure he would try to take over again. Some dogs are just like that.
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If youi look at the ancestors of the yorkie, you can see where some get the long body others are short and boxy? looking?
On one of Cesars episodes I saw a dog called Diablo, he was a rescue, his behavior was HORRIBLY SCARY!! Cesar turned that dog around to sweet and also renamed him. So your furbaby CAN be worked with, keep showing him love, patience and that your hubby is pack leader. Good luck, I'm hoping for a good outcome.
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That sounds terrilbe. The object is to correct the behavior, not to punish the dog. If the puppy is biting there is a much bigger problem. The biting is the symptom, not the problem.

You can correct the biting but the problem of disrespect will still be there and manifest itself in other ways.

I know it was not ideal and she did everything to correct him... This was not her first trainer but this is the only method that worked. It is terrible but so is getting your face injured. She asked for " someone with a miraculous evil yorkie turned sweet heart over night?" although not a yorkie this pup went from as bad as it gets to a very nice dog to be around. I agree that there are some underlying issues if he knows better with the OP but attacks her husband. Maybe taking your husband with you to the trainer.

To the OP... Don't give up hope, you will find something that works for you. And we can all see that you are really trying to help your little one. Perhapes going to a different trainer until you find one that can help him.
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My Yorkie is also a biter and lunger. He is now over 1 yrs. old and has been neutered. My husband can do alot more with him than I can. He was an only fur baby so he is very secure and independent. He has never liked to be cuddled much, but is getting better. He wants to play all the time and has more energy that any of us know what to do with. I think if you could find some way to give your dog more exercise, such as swimming, that he would be much calmer. They also need to be walked a lot. I think it is just going to take time and trying different methods of training. Some are harder to train than others, but what he is displaying is typical terrier behavior.
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Some yorkies do have the longer nose. He is definitely not a show quality, but could be all yorkie.

If he does not bite you, then he probably does see you as pack leader, THEREFORE you have to be the one to correct him when he bites others. EVERYONE in the house has to work on becoming the pack leader, not just you. all humans should be viewed as pack leaders.

Get the dog whisperer videos and watch them with the entire family. Then work on the problem as a family. You should be able to make a major acconplishment in just one day if you work at it and get the whole family on board.

NO dog is beyond hope. He can be a nice sweet cuddly dog, but it will take some major changes on the part of the family.

Also, it sounds like he was probably taken from his mother way too young and therefore never learned proper puppy ettiquete. So you have to teach him.

He's not a bad dog, he as just never been taught.
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