Debarking Hooks - Page 7 - YorkieTalk.com Forums

k9trainer · 06-24-2009, 06:08 PM

When it comes to a needless decision like this. Dont listen to a vet.

I can only assume this "procedure" is expensive. Which = money for the vet.

MOST(i said MOST not all) vets loose sight in ethics and morals when they get all the money. Its a proven fact ya know. Vets dont know EVERYTHING about dogs. They Dont know everything that is good for dogs. Most do not study how things effect them emotionally, they look only at if it will take a long time for them to heal. Sorry kid, but your vet dont givva damn what happens to your dog. If he did, he wouldnt recommend it, and if he DOES care anything about you or your dog, he doesnt know anything about how it emottionally scars them ..

I mean, ask anyvet what to feed, and im sure youll get the same crappy response. hills science or iams. Ick

Britster · 06-24-2009, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sway Says

This is a video of a debarked dog. It still makes noise. And it's still an irritating, albiet kind of sad, noise.

YouTube - What a "debarked" dog sounds like, starring Molly

Look I'm not going to judge you. People in my dorm snuck in dogs, too. Down the hall one of my sorority sisters had a yorkie.

Of course it's not a great idea because both of you can get the boot, but that's just the reality.

I would suggest the shake can...

That's awful sounding.

k9trainer · 06-24-2009, 06:15 PM

OMG. That poor dog on the vid. I bet hes frustrated..

And if i were that lab, id stop trying to get away before the owner amputated his legs. Or get away faster so my voice wasnt taken away! Its disguisting.

shannonroselive · 06-24-2009, 06:17 PM

Tell ya what. I happen to be right here in Nashville, about 5 minutes from Vandy. I could help you out and take your babies off your hands and give them a good, loving home where their barks can be heard and welcomed! I can be there in the morning if you like.

Britster · 06-24-2009, 06:17 PM

I have a question... first and foremost, let me state, I am NOT FOR de-barking. I think that's awful. But I'm honestly curious, those of you who are against de-barking, why are you not (or maybe you are?) against tail docking? I personally do not think the procedure of tail docking is good, either. I do not think tail docking is "cruel" but I really find it to be a pointless procedure simply done for humans because certain things "look better" and I disagree with it. Tails are a natural part of a dog too and it's also a way to communicate with us, and other dogs, and express their emotions. I just find it to be the most pointless and dumb procedure ever. Jackson has a full tail, by the way.

bjh · 06-24-2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sway Says

This is a video of a debarked dog. It still makes noise. And it's still an irritating, albiet kind of sad, noise.

YouTube - What a "debarked" dog sounds like, starring Molly

Look I'm not going to judge you. People in my dorm snuck in dogs, too. Down the hall one of my sorority sisters had a yorkie.

Of course it's not a great idea because both of you can get the boot, but that's just the reality.

I would suggest the shake can...

I am not advocating debarking but I have heard a debarked yorkie and he did not sound like that. He barked like a normal dog but it was softer. I guess it does not effect all of them the same.

Like I said, I would not do it to my dogs but the OP was just asking opinions from those that have first hand experience about the procedure. I am sure that anyone that had done the procedure to their dog would not dare post on this thread or they would fear being tarred and feathered and ran out of town. I think it is horrible and cruel to keep dogs in crates but that does not mean I am going to come on here and berate everyone that crates their dogs. Everyone needs to show a little more respect to those that are just seeking advise and not slam them.

k9trainer · 06-24-2009, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britster

I have a question... first and foremost, let me state, I am NOT FOR de-barking. I think that's awful. But I'm honestly curious, those of you who are against de-barking, why are you not (or maybe you are?) against tail docking? I personally do not think the procedure of tail docking is good, either. I do not think tail docking is "cruel" but I really find it to be a pointless procedure simply done for humans because certain things "look better" and I disagree with it. Tails are a natural part of a dog too and it's a way to communicate with us, and other dogs, and express their emotions. I just find it to be the most pointless and dumb procedure ever.

hey brit! i dont like docking either. And ear cropping. Eww. Just as bad

shannonroselive · 06-24-2009, 06:21 PM

I personally am fully against tail docking. I can't believe they do this to these poor creatures. If I had known about this prior to our getting our puppy, I would have requested she NOT be docked. I still wish I had known then, what I know now. I wish Curly Mac had her tail.

k9trainer · 06-24-2009, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shannonroselive

Tell ya what. I happen to be right here in Nashville, about 5 minutes from Vandy. I could help you out and take your babies off your hands and give them a good, loving home where their barks can be heard and welcomed! I can be there in the morning if you like.

Whats vandy? i know off topic.. But i was reading and i was like, whaaaaa? haha

Britster · 06-24-2009, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjh

I am not advocating debarking but I have heard a debarked yorkie and he did not sound like that. He barked like a normal dog but it was softer. I guess it does not effect all of them the same.

Like I said, I would not do it to my dogs but the OP was just asking opinions from those that have first hand experience about the procedure. I am sure that anyone that had done the procedure to their dog would not dare post on this thread or they would fear being tarred and feathered and ran out of town. I think it is horrible and cruel to keep dogs in crates but that does not mean I am going to come on here and berate everyone that crates their dogs. Everyone needs to show a little more respect to those that are just seeking advise and not slam them.

I agree. That's kind of what I was trying to say.

shannonroselive · 06-24-2009, 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k9trainer

Whats vandy? i know off topic.. But i was reading and i was like, whaaaaa? haha

It's the college she attends here in Nashville. Vanderbilt University.

Britster · 06-24-2009, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k9trainer

hey brit! i dont like docking either. And ear cropping. Eww. Just as bad

Quote:

Originally Posted by shannonroselive

I personally am fully against tail docking. I can't believe they do this to these poor creatures. If I had known about this prior to our getting our puppy, I would have requested she NOT be docked. I still wish I had known then, what I know now. I wish Curly Mac had her tail.

Thanks for the replies - glad others feel the same way

I just think it's so pointless.

Sway Says · 06-24-2009, 06:23 PM

Actually... please forgive me for posting a video.

I thought she might like to know what it sounds like on a larger dog and see that it doesn't really fix the problem but just makes the dog sound different.

I didn't read what so many people had written but now looking through this I see that this young lady has been made into a grotesque for considering an operation and asking in earnest for people's opinions who are more familiar with said operation.

She asked for advice and some are sitting in judgement.

I think that many people on YT are very passionate and kindhearted, and I believe that these are admirable traits. However, some take this passion too far and forgetting their love, become very judgmental and narrow.

While this woman was asking for a advice she was met with harsh words and immaturity. When one young lady would ask for your valued opinions you would stone her.

I regret what I posted but I can't delete it now. I expect to be attacked for defending her, but it needed to be done.

QuickSilver · 06-24-2009, 06:25 PM

Actually, I thought it was very helpful to post some actual information in this thread.

k9trainer · 06-24-2009, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shannonroselive

It's the college she attends here in Nashville. Vanderbilt University.

hmmmmmm....... Interesting.......

06-24-2009, 06:17 PM	#95
Britster Action Jackson ♥ Donating Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 17,815	I have a question... first and foremost, let me state, I am NOT FOR de-barking. I think that's awful. But I'm honestly curious, those of you who are against de-barking, why are you not (or maybe you are?) against tail docking? I personally do not think the procedure of tail docking is good, either. I do not think tail docking is "cruel" but I really find it to be a pointless procedure simply done for humans because certain things "look better" and I disagree with it. Tails are a natural part of a dog too and it's also a way to communicate with us, and other dogs, and express their emotions. I just find it to be the most pointless and dumb procedure ever. Jackson has a full tail, by the way. __________________ ~ Brit & Lights! Camera! Jackson! CGC ETD TKP ~ Follow Jackson on Instagram: https://instagram.com/jacksontheterrier Last edited by Britster; 06-24-2009 at 06:18 PM.

06-24-2009, 06:23 PM	#103
Sway Says Yorkie Yakker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Durham Posts: 45	Sheesh People! Actually... please forgive me for posting a video. I thought she might like to know what it sounds like on a larger dog and see that it doesn't really fix the problem but just makes the dog sound different. I didn't read what so many people had written but now looking through this I see that this young lady has been made into a grotesque for considering an operation and asking in earnest for people's opinions who are more familiar with said operation. She asked for advice and some are sitting in judgement. I think that many people on YT are very passionate and kindhearted, and I believe that these are admirable traits. However, some take this passion too far and forgetting their love, become very judgmental and narrow. While this woman was asking for a advice she was met with harsh words and immaturity. When one young lady would ask for your valued opinions you would stone her. I regret what I posted but I can't delete it now. I expect to be attacked for defending her, but it needed to be done. __________________ Harley Dean Think for yourself, no one else is qualified.

06-24-2009, 06:25 PM	#104
QuickSilver Thor's Human Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,929 Blog Entries: 31	Actually, I thought it was very helpful to post some actual information in this thread. __________________ If you love something, set it free. Unless it's an angry tiger.

06-24-2009, 06:08 PM	#91
k9trainer Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: canada Posts: 116	When it comes to a needless decision like this. Dont listen to a vet. I can only assume this "procedure" is expensive. Which = money for the vet. MOST(i said MOST not all) vets loose sight in ethics and morals when they get all the money. Its a proven fact ya know. Vets dont know EVERYTHING about dogs. They Dont know everything that is good for dogs. Most do not study how things effect them emotionally, they look only at if it will take a long time for them to heal. Sorry kid, but your vet dont givva damn what happens to your dog. If he did, he wouldnt recommend it, and if he DOES care anything about you or your dog, he doesnt know anything about how it emottionally scars them .. I mean, ask anyvet what to feed, and im sure youll get the same crappy response. hills science or iams. Ick

06-24-2009, 06:15 PM	#93
k9trainer Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: canada Posts: 116	OMG. That poor dog on the vid. I bet hes frustrated.. And if i were that lab, id stop trying to get away before the owner amputated his legs. Or get away faster so my voice wasnt taken away! Its disguisting.

06-24-2009, 06:17 PM	#94
shannonroselive Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Where ever the wind blows! Posts: 612	Tell ya what. I happen to be right here in Nashville, about 5 minutes from Vandy. I could help you out and take your babies off your hands and give them a good, loving home where their barks can be heard and welcomed! I can be there in the morning if you like.

06-24-2009, 06:21 PM	#98
shannonroselive Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Where ever the wind blows! Posts: 612	I personally am fully against tail docking. I can't believe they do this to these poor creatures. If I had known about this prior to our getting our puppy, I would have requested she NOT be docked. I still wish I had known then, what I know now. I wish Curly Mac had her tail.