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Saragp · 09-14-2005, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Biddy's Mom

I understand that you want to vent, but I don't understand why you care about what other people do with their money?? You think that $400-$500 is too much to pay for a mixed breed dog. People pay thousands of dollars for purebred dogs, aren't they being "ripped off" too? You say you are talking about anyone in particular, but then you specifically point out the girl who wanted information on the "Porkie". I really just don't think it's any or your business what breeds of dogs people buy as long as they treat them well.

True, I did point it out. But I insinuated that the prices were insane not the girl. And no it isn't my business what anyone pays, but this is a FORUM and bringing up topics and discussing them is the Forum's function. I wasn't as mad about anyone paying the money as I was the breeders charging the money.

And yes people do pay thousands for pure breeds. That is because they are paying probably for breeding and showing purposes. Most papered/purebreds are champions for that kind of money.

I am sorry that you have missed my point. You are entitled to say what you want as am I. But the whole point of the post was that breeders were cashing in on these mixed breeds because it has become trendy. I didn't say they weren't being treated and/or loved any more or less.

Since I started this post, I am now finishing it.

luv4yorkies · 09-14-2005, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Saragp

Well, I knew I was going to stir the doggie pot here.

This all originated with someone looking for a 'Porkie'. When I saw the prices I just couldn't believe what I saw. I paid about 300 - 350 for the 4 purebreds that I have and they came with papers. And on the other edge of the sword, the papers weren't important, but that is what someone (I believe) would expect with that kind of price tag.

First of all, like I said, I wasn't directing this post at anyone in particular. So please don't take offense. A lot of us come on here to vent. Freedom of speech is a beauftiful thing.

Secondly, the point of the post was that the breeders have given a title to something that has existed for a long time and are making tons of cash.

Thirdly, I didn't use the caps as a bad thing, but I obviously got peoples' attention. Call the dog a mutt, mixed breed, an oops or a unique blend. It still isn't a pure dog (and I don't have ANYTHING AGAINST THAT).

I know we wouldn't trade anything for our babies. As mentioned in my original post, I have TWO mixed breeds and I love them immensely. I wouldn't trade them for the world; they ARE priceless.

I guess the bottom line is that I am just upset that these breeders are what I feel, taking advantage of a trend that seems to be sweeping the nation. Put the word 'designer' on it and all the sudden its on the news!

This post was not to insult, degrate or put anyone down with their past, present or future dogs.

I just have one question where did you buy bure breed dogs with papers for 300-350?

Saragp · 09-14-2005, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by luv4yorkies

I just have one question where did you buy bure breed dogs with papers for 300-350?

I found breeders that were selling. Each dog was between in the ballpark of 300 - 350. I don't have yorkies. The papered dogs that I have are 2 chi's, a Pom and a German Shorthair Pointer.

luv4yorkies · 09-14-2005, 04:00 PM

thanks for answering my question.

az jude · 09-14-2005, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickey007

Well first I don't know necessarily know if the breeders came up with the term designer dogs. The first two places I heard it were on the news and the newspaper. Many times our media makes up these terms. I have also heard many people that down these so called "designer pups" call them that more so than the people who are buying and selling them. Personally to me "designer dogs" has just as fowl of a meaning as mutts.

And secondly the designer dogs isn't the only craze out there. Small dogs in general are very popular right now. Mainly because as has been said before celebs are carrying them all over. So the price of pure bred dogs are being jacked up just as well.

I personally wouldn't be able to afford to pay what some people pay for their pure bred dogs that are pets not show dogs but does that mean I'm better or smarter than them no. There are things I choose to spend my money on that other people don't but you know just like we have the freedom of speech we also have the right to spend our money how we like. I'm in no way mad or trying to offend just to let you know.

Like you I am personally unable to pay the high price for Yorkies, especially in the Phoenix area. About 15-20 years ago, had the good fortune to be the owner of both a male and female yorkie, both quite small in size. Wanting one again for all these years, a mix seemed to be the way to go as I am on a fixed income. Delighted to find a "Chorkie" girl! Mother purebred yorkie and father 3/4 yorkie and 1/4 chihuahua. Looks and acts just like my long ago yorkie pair. Quite the personality!!! She is 7 months old and newly spayed and her growth is leveling off at about 9 pounds. Could not ask for a better companion!!!

xtine · 09-14-2005, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Biddy's Mom

I understand that you want to vent, but I don't understand why you care about what other people do with their money?? You think that $400-$500 is too much to pay for a mixed breed dog. People pay thousands of dollars for purebred dogs, aren't they being "ripped off" too? You say you are talking about anyone in particular, but then you specifically point out the girl who wanted information on the "Porkie". I really just don't think it's any or your business what breeds of dogs people buy as long as they treat them well.

I agree with this.. I didn't even know that this was a designer breed..i just thought it was a cute name porkie and i didn't pay anywhere near 1000 dollars.. i only payed 300 and totally worth it.. if someone were to steal my Oreo and ask for $5000 i'd gladly pay it because NO one can replace my oreo.. he's priceless

I don't think that it really matters what breed, what price as long as they are in good homes and are happy..

sylvan · 09-14-2005, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by az jude

Like you I am personally unable to pay the high price for Yorkies, especially in the Phoenix area. About 15-20 years ago, had the good fortune to be the owner of both a male and female yorkie, both quite small in size. Wanting one again for all these years, a mix seemed to be the way to go as I am on a fixed income. Delighted to find a "Chorkie" girl! Mother purebred yorkie and father 3/4 yorkie and 1/4 chihuahua. Looks and acts just like my long ago yorkie pair. Quite the personality!!! She is 7 months old and newly spayed and her growth is leveling off at about 9 pounds. Could not ask for a better companion!!!

Oh, I think that one's gonna have to have a new label...Chorkie sounds too Chihuahua and she's only 1/8th.....howbout Yoryorkchi or Moreyork? Whatever the label, I'm sure she's delightful.

xtine · 09-14-2005, 06:37 PM

if people don't like purposely mixing breeds.. isn't it funny that these so called purebred dogs are actually inbred mixed breeds?

I call purebred dogs inbred mixed breeds cause that is exactly what they are. You just take different breeds mix them, inbreed for a few generations and there you have a purebred.

Have you read this:
http://www.netpets.com/dogs/referen.../bragg.html#toc

lilbumbleybees · 09-14-2005, 06:42 PM

I totally understand you! I got my "designer dog" at PetsMart one Saturday when I saw him all lonely and scared in the very back in a pen from the Humane Society and let me tell you that is the BEST dog I've ever had. And he only cost me $40. And if I had to, I would have paid more. But yeah. I work in a grooming shop/boutique and we have people come in with their new "designer dogs" such as the just now popular golden-doodle that they paid hundreds for. I don't get it. lol Of course I'm sure Rescue people look at us the same way. Why pay so much money for these purebreds and keep people breeding when we can rescue some poor soul's life? It kinda goes both ways. Either way, in my heart, I love my yorkie and my "mutt" just the same. I wouldn't trade one for the other

Shanatink · 09-14-2005, 09:16 PM

It does make me mad that they breed 2 breeds and call them hybrid. They think they can give them a fun sounding fancy name and call them hybrids to rip people off. That ticks me off! That what I am against. Its not right to give something a lot of hype to fool people into paying more.

SoCalyorkiLvr · 09-14-2005, 09:35 PM

What does that mean they are "not a pure dog"? Yorkies are mixed breeds just as all of the most popular breeds right now are. I find it just plain "wrong" to somehow place a greater value on a dog who can be in a show ring than one who is born to parents who are different from each other.

I also learned and use the term "all american" to describe these beautiful babies and for me, I do not discriminate, as all dogs have value and are priceless for the love they give.

Also there are plenty of vets who will stand by the fact that all americans do have fewer health problems than purebreds.

Precious is Priceless!!!!

xtine · 09-14-2005, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

Precious is Priceless!!!!

Amen to that.. purebred or not, my dogs are still precious to me.

Pmoore · 09-14-2005, 09:52 PM

Well this topic has been touched enough but I'm just going to say I have a "Designer Dog" and a purebreed and I look at them the same... They are priceless it's easier said than do to go to the pound and find the MUTT you are looking for especially if oyu want a puppy!! I looked on petfinder first and there were NONE even close and if there were they were 6 yrs or older... So I think ALL dogs are precious no matter what breed they are... You find me a MUTT as cute as mine and with such a personality at the shelter and I will rush there to go get them!!!

yorkiemom1970 · 09-14-2005, 11:40 PM

in my opionion, everyone thinks their dog is worth what they pay for it. whether it be a yorkie or a labra-she-chi-malti-poo. we all value our animals no matter what and different people like different things. as long as you have a reputable breeder , i dont see what difference it would make as long as your paying for a healthy speciman of what you desire.

yorkiemom1970 · 09-14-2005, 11:49 PM

"hybrid" ... ever heard of "hybrid vigor"? when yorkies were first established from welsh, scottish, paisley and all the other terriers that came to produce our beloved babies, did you ever think that it would be a controversy like it is today? nope, not back then. i say to each their own and my hat is off to any one trying to produce a new breed to the best of their ability. i do not however promote those trying to sell these animals just because of the name "designer dogs" dont get me started on this because my best friend for 20 yrs is trying to establish a new "hybrid" breed. done with the upmost care and research.

09-14-2005, 06:42 PM	#39
lilbumbleybees YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 1,339	I totally understand you! I got my "designer dog" at PetsMart one Saturday when I saw him all lonely and scared in the very back in a pen from the Humane Society and let me tell you that is the BEST dog I've ever had. And he only cost me $40. And if I had to, I would have paid more. But yeah. I work in a grooming shop/boutique and we have people come in with their new "designer dogs" such as the just now popular golden-doodle that they paid hundreds for. I don't get it. lol Of course I'm sure Rescue people look at us the same way. Why pay so much money for these purebreds and keep people breeding when we can rescue some poor soul's life? It kinda goes both ways. Either way, in my heart, I love my yorkie and my "mutt" just the same. I wouldn't trade one for the other __________________ Liz Little Lotte , Bouncer, Lilli , Yodi

09-14-2005, 09:16 PM	#40
Shanatink Mommy to 3 Princesses Donating Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 11,030	It does make me mad that they breed 2 breeds and call them hybrid. They think they can give them a fun sounding fancy name and call them hybrids to rip people off. That ticks me off! That what I am against. Its not right to give something a lot of hype to fool people into paying more. __________________ Custom Dog Clothing Boutique www.TinkerbellsCloset.com

09-14-2005, 04:00 PM	#34
luv4yorkies YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,611	thanks for answering my question.

09-14-2005, 06:37 PM	#38
xtine Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: CA Posts: 1,406	if people don't like purposely mixing breeds.. isn't it funny that these so called purebred dogs are actually inbred mixed breeds? I call purebred dogs inbred mixed breeds cause that is exactly what they are. You just take different breeds mix them, inbreed for a few generations and there you have a purebred. Have you read this: http://www.netpets.com/dogs/referen.../bragg.html#toc

09-14-2005, 09:35 PM	#41
SoCalyorkiLvr BANNED! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 8,246	What does that mean they are "not a pure dog"? Yorkies are mixed breeds just as all of the most popular breeds right now are. I find it just plain "wrong" to somehow place a greater value on a dog who can be in a show ring than one who is born to parents who are different from each other. I also learned and use the term "all american" to describe these beautiful babies and for me, I do not discriminate, as all dogs have value and are priceless for the love they give. Also there are plenty of vets who will stand by the fact that all americans do have fewer health problems than purebreds. Precious is Priceless!!!!

09-14-2005, 09:52 PM	#43
Pmoore Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Marietta,GA Posts: 191	Well this topic has been touched enough but I'm just going to say I have a "Designer Dog" and a purebreed and I look at them the same... They are priceless it's easier said than do to go to the pound and find the MUTT you are looking for especially if oyu want a puppy!! I looked on petfinder first and there were NONE even close and if there were they were 6 yrs or older... So I think ALL dogs are precious no matter what breed they are... You find me a MUTT as cute as mine and with such a personality at the shelter and I will rush there to go get them!!!

09-14-2005, 11:40 PM	#44
yorkiemom1970 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,947	in my opionion, everyone thinks their dog is worth what they pay for it. whether it be a yorkie or a labra-she-chi-malti-poo. we all value our animals no matter what and different people like different things. as long as you have a reputable breeder , i dont see what difference it would make as long as your paying for a healthy speciman of what you desire.

09-14-2005, 11:49 PM	#45
yorkiemom1970 No Longer a Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,947	"hybrid" ... ever heard of "hybrid vigor"? when yorkies were first established from welsh, scottish, paisley and all the other terriers that came to produce our beloved babies, did you ever think that it would be a controversy like it is today? nope, not back then. i say to each their own and my hat is off to any one trying to produce a new breed to the best of their ability. i do not however promote those trying to sell these animals just because of the name "designer dogs" dont get me started on this because my best friend for 20 yrs is trying to establish a new "hybrid" breed. done with the upmost care and research.