"Why We Euthanize"---A Good Article

[Baron]

I'll bet they don't tell you anywhere about the ones that they euthanize that are perfectly healthy and could be placed in good homes. Just like the girl that was part of the PETA org that was caught going into shelters and rescues and saying that she could find good homes for some of the puppies they had, then taking those dogs out to her van and euthanizing them right there, then taking the bodies and dumping them into the trash at Walmart, whic is how she was caught. Or how they visit dog shows and put antifreeze into the dogs water dishes so that they die a terrible painful death because they feel that dogs should not be owned.

I feel that they are a terrible organization that tries to fool people into thinking that they do good.

[straightsilk]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

I absolutely respect this because I understand the position from where your opinion is coming from (political).

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To others - I think what is making this confusing is that people are still slamming the euthanasia/death rate - and that's why some people are asking if the article was even read and/or understood.

I'm not sure where to go from here, other than to ask - since the death rate is so troublesome, what would folks have PETA do? Would you rather they rescue these near-death, totally-beyond-treatment animals and force them to stay alive so the animal can die an excruciating and prolonged, but natural, death? Just so that PETA has a more acceptable death rate?

Look...I have no issues w/ folks who just don't want to support PETA, I get it - feel free to support what feels right. But putting down animals who are in a tortured physical state of health, who are beyond repair, is the kindest thing that can be done for these animals - and I support PETA for being stuck with this awful job of rescuing the worst of the worst. I have a lot of empathy for those people on the front lines who rescue these animals and have to make these decisions. It saddens me to have what they do criticized and misunderstood, but I do understand where that comes from - I do understand why PETA is not an easy organization for some folks to accept.

IMHO, this is blatant exploitation. They play on the emotions of those of us who love our pets passionately for the purposes of fund raising and politics. To read Newkirk's article, you would think she was the only one in the US who could end a life humanely. I think there are 10s of thousands of Euthanasia Techs in the country who might disagree. The vast majority do their jobs with competence, compassion, respect and profound reverence. The life they end will never again suffer.

I was slow to understand that PETA changed, and I feel duped by them. I was never a big donor, but I wish I could have the money back that I sent them.

[Nikki+2]

Since most everyone who has posted in support of this thread has backed up what they were saying with a link to an independent source, I think it would be great if those that have bad stories about peta would do the same. I am honestly interested it's just difficult to sort urban legend from fact without a source.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by straightsilk

IMHO, this is blatant exploitation. They play on the emotions of those of us who love our pets passionately for the purposes of fund raising and politics. To read Newkirk's article, you would think she was the only one in the US who could end a life humanely. I think there are 10s of thousands of Euthanasia Techs in the country who might disagree. The vast majority do their jobs with competence, compassion, respect and profound reverence. The life they end will never again suffer.

I was slow to understand that PETA changed, and I feel duped by them. I was never a big donor, but I wish I could have the money back that I sent them.

People forget these facts unfortunately and the fact that PETA does what they do at dog shows, letting them out, putting antifreeze in water bowls ect... PETA does NOT support responsible/reputable breeders and would do away with us altogether and just have it to where there were no pets period.....so normally I don't get into a debate with PETA members because they believe in what they want just as much as I believe in what I do and NO ONE will change my disgust with PETA!

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

[Nikki+2]

Originally Posted by straightsilk

IMHO, this is blatant exploitation. They play on the emotions of those of us who love our pets passionately for the purposes of fund raising and politics. To read Newkirk's article, you would think she was the only one in the US who could end a life humanely. I think there are 10s of thousands of Euthanasia Techs in the country who might disagree. The vast majority do their jobs with competence, compassion, respect and profound reverence. The life they end will never again suffer.

I was slow to understand that PETA changed, and I feel duped by them. I was never a big donor, but I wish I could have the money back that I sent them.

I took it as a response to those who have adopted the mantra, "PETA Kills Animals" after being the recipients of a good brainwashing by the CCF. It is obvious from this thread that there are plenty of people who do not support peta and have seen through that campaign but their are many people out there who haven't.

I think most people who have to handle euthanasia are absolutely incredible and much stronger than I am. Most shelter workers are heroes IMO. This was just a personal article about a personal experience. That kind usually carries a big impact.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by Nikki+2

Since most everyone who has posted in support of this thread has backed up what they were saying with a link to an independent source, I think it would be great if those that have bad stories about peta would do the same. I am honestly interested it's just difficult to sort urban legend from fact without a source.

I've been at the dog show where PETA pickets, has turned them loose PERSONALLY!!!!! I've attended dog shows were we've had to have security hired and put locks on our crates just so PETA members wouldn't let our dogs out....
I think that is pretty much an independent source as one can get.

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

[megansmomma]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

People forget these facts unfortunately and the fact that PETA does what they do at dog shows, letting them out, putting antifreeze in water bowls ect... PETA does NOT support responsible/reputable breeders and would do away with us altogether and just have it to where there were no pets period.....so normally I don't get into a debate with PETA members because they believe in what they want just as much as I believe in what I do and NO ONE will change my disgust with PETA!

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

If it is true what you are saying about PETA putting antifreeze into dog bowls can you please post a link to this information? I have said before that I link to arm myself with as much information as possible and would personally be outraged if any organization including PETA was causing pain and suffering to any animals!

[Nikki+2]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I've been at the dog show where PETA pickets, has turned them loose PERSONALLY!!!!! I've attended dog shows were we've had to have security hired and put locks on our crates just so PETA members wouldn't let our dogs out....
I think that is pretty much an independent source as one can get.

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

Yep, it doesn't get much more credible than an eyewitness report- thank you.

I wasn't accusing anyone of making something up, it's just hard to differentiate between a fact and someone passing on something that they heard form who knows who, who read it who knows where. Sometimes people have the best of intentions and pass on false information unintentionally.

As a dog lover, obviously I think that is deplorable to let dogs loose.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

If it is true what you are saying about PETA putting antifreeze into dog bowls can you please post a link to this information? I have said before that I link to arm myself with as much information as possible and would personally be outraged if any organization including PETA was causing pain and suffering to any animals!

Yes I would like to see a link to that also because this is the first Ive heard of this

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by megansmomma

If it is true what you are saying about PETA putting antifreeze into dog bowls can you please post a link to this information? I have said before that I link to arm myself with as much information as possible and would personally be outraged if any organization including PETA was causing pain and suffering to any animals!

I"ll have to find the link....but I've personally been and witnessed dogs being let out of crates and some get very ill after PETA members attended dog shows to create havoc....so I guess seeing in person kinda reaffirms my disgust in PETA!

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

[Nikki+2]

Originally Posted by Wylie's Mom

For those interested, here are the actual euthanasia stats, via the government, for 2007 for PETA; it appears the euth. rate is 22%:

VDACS Online Animal Reporting

The same data is available for 2008 (but not yet on this site, as far as I could tell) and it appears to show a euth. rate of 24%.

Ann thank you for posting this. I hope it doesn't get missed with everything else that is being discussed.

[Nikki+2]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I"ll have to find the link....but I've personally been and witnessed dogs being let out of crates and some get very ill after PETA members attended dog shows to create havoc....so I guess seeing in person kinda reaffirms my disgust in PETA!

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

An independent link is so helpful because though I believe you 100% that people participating in a peta demonstration have caused problems for participants of dog shows you have attended. Here is the problem; I have participated in unrelated demonstrations and have never met a protester who would do ANYTHING that would harm an animal. I have also participated in HSUS events- we are talking serious animal lovers who would hurt themselves before an animal. This is my personal experience. Actions like you have described would absolutely horrify anyone I have ever met who is associated with either group. Now, I'm not saying nobody would ever let a dog out of a crate. You said you witnessed it and I believe you. It's just without an independent report it is very hard for me to believe it would be sanctioned by peta.

[BubblPopElectrc]

Originally Posted by Nikki+2

Since most everyone who has posted in support of this thread has backed up what they were saying with a link to an independent source, I think it would be great if those that have bad stories about peta would do the same. I am honestly interested it's just difficult to sort urban legend from fact without a source.

That is exactly what I was thinking, Nikki!

[hartygirl]

Does PETA's administration actually organize the protests at dog shows and the release of the dogs?

Or is it PETA supporters with their own agenda and way of "demonstrating" things?

There are always going to be a few crazies associated with every group! I've seen a few on YT too!!!

I think that ANYTHING in the way of preventing cruelty to animals and ending suffering is heroic. I have been a pescaterian for a little over 10 years now but I live with a carnivore. No leather in my car or on my clothing and I do what I can to help my local shelters and rescues. Wish I could do more.

OP THANK YOU for posting the article, people need to see what happens to unwanted and unloved animals, maybe instead of getting all nuts about it on here, you can take your writing skills and put them to good use writing your Representatives about shelter overcrowding, animal population problems and low cost or free spay and neuter programs. Or support your states HB's regulating laws on puppymills.

There are 2 kinds of people in this world people that care for animals and those that don't. I think everyone on this thread is an animal lover, weather the support/agree with PETA or not! So with that being said get to work on those letters!!!!!

[Wylie's Mom]

If dogs were poisoned by anyone at a dog show, that would be a criminal act - there would have been charges, arrests, media reports. I can't imagine any animal lover or animal welfare worker poisoning a dog. If someone can provide a police report or news story, I'd like to read it.

I could see, sadly, someone trying to pretend to be an animal activist and then harming animals, just to hurt the animal rights/welfare movement. I'm sorry to say that, but it's true. Just bc someone is wearing a PETA t-shirt, it does not mean that PETA condones their actions - nor does it mean they're from PETA.