I have been let down, once again. People, make me furious.

[omichka]

IF you are buying a puppy from someone that has done NO genetic testing of those diseases that are prevalent in the different breeds, chances are you are working with a puppy mill or backyard breeder. Bargain prices many not be such a bargain after all if you end up with a genetically defective dog. For those of you looking into the Designer Dogs such as Goldendoodles and Labradoodles, this also applies to them. Any reputable and responsible breeder has certified their breeding stock for diseases that are passed on from parent to offspring. Those would include but not limited to:

• OFA tested Hips & Elbows,
• OFA certified HEART, DNA tests,
• CERF eye exam yearly for 31 different eye diseases,
• SA tests for skin
• DNA test for PRA
• OFA certified Thyroid.

always ask any breeder about these tests. If there has been NO testing done.... DON’T LINE THEIR POCKETS WITH YOUR MONEY. They get your money. You get an ill bred pup with years of health problems and the high cost.

[Bianca]

Originally Posted by omichka

IF you are buying a puppy from someone that has done NO genetic testing of those diseases that are prevalent in the different breeds, chances are you are working with a puppy mill or backyard breeder. Bargain prices many not be such a bargain after all if you end up with a genetically defective dog. For those of you looking into the Designer Dogs such as Goldendoodles and Labradoodles, this also applies to them. Any reputable and responsible breeder has certified their breeding stock for diseases that are passed on from parent to offspring. Those would include but not limited to:

• OFA tested Hips & Elbows,
• OFA certified HEART, DNA tests,
• CERF eye exam yearly for 31 different eye diseases,
• SA tests for skin
• DNA test for PRA
• OFA certified Thyroid.

always ask any breeder about these tests. If there has been NO testing done.... DON’T LINE THEIR POCKETS WITH YOUR MONEY. They get your money. You get an ill bred pup with years of health problems and the high cost.

great post!

[Krystee]

Originally Posted by omichka

IF you are buying a puppy from someone that has done NO genetic testing of those diseases that are prevalent in the different breeds, chances are you are working with a puppy mill or backyard breeder. Bargain prices many not be such a bargain after all if you end up with a genetically defective dog. For those of you looking into the Designer Dogs such as Goldendoodles and Labradoodles, this also applies to them. Any reputable and responsible breeder has certified their breeding stock for diseases that are passed on from parent to offspring. Those would include but not limited to:

• OFA tested Hips & Elbows,
• OFA certified HEART, DNA tests,
• CERF eye exam yearly for 31 different eye diseases,
• SA tests for skin
• DNA test for PRA
• OFA certified Thyroid
always ask any breeder about these tests. If there has been NO testing done.... DON’T LINE THEIR POCKETS WITH YOUR MONEY. They get your money. You get an ill bred pup with years of health problems and the high cost.

100% completely agree

[omichka]

I personally like this post. I don't know who wrote it, but I agree 100%.

Are you aware that FIFTEEN MILLION animals were put to death in American shelters last year? Animals sentenced to die simply for the crime of being born in an overpopulated world. Some of us (such as myself) who work in animal sheltering and rescue, see this needless death every single day of the year. Purebred, mixed breed, it makes no difference... all are euthanized. Twenty five to forty percent of the dogs area shelters take in are purebred, and roughly twenty five percent of all dogs euthanized are purebred. The remainder are perfectly good, healthy, mixed breed dogs. Not a thing in the world wrong with them. And yet they are destroyed, each and every day, in staggering numbers. It tends to make those of us working in these fields a little militant about breeding.

Does that mean all of us are anti-breeding? No, of course not. Those of us with more than a spoonful of common sense realize that responsible breeding is vital to ensuring the continuation of breeds and sound, healthy bloodlines. The key, however, is RESPONSIBLE breeding. That means no intentional breeding of mixed breed dogs. That means no breeding for profit. That means no breeding of animals out of standard. That means no breeding of untested pets... both health testing and behavior testing. That means not intentionally breeding for pet quality animals.

The best breeding always results in some pet quality animals as well as the hoped-for show and competition animals. Breed for a PURPOSE.

You want to breed Chesapeake Retrievers? Fantastic! But breed them to either competition or field standards. You want to breed Cocker Spaniels? GREAT! But breed them to be gun dogs, to be the single best representation of the breed. Breed them the way they're supposed to be bred... not to simply fill some niche in a market that needn't exist.

If you want to breed Chihuahuas, breed Chihuahuas... but don't try to create some 2.5 pound, deer headed neurotic monstrosity just so some Paris Hilton-wannabe can carry it around in her purse until she loses interest in it. Don't breed "teacup" dogs. They don't exist. Period. They are simply runts with a clever name.

Don't breed Labradoodles. It's not a breed. They aren't hypoallergenic. Ditto for any other poodle-oodle-doodle mix. They aren't breeds... they are cleverly named marketing ploys.

They are, in reality, mutts... and millions upon millions of mutts are put to death in American shelters every year. Thousands every day.

Unless you are breeding the highest caliber of dogs, unless you are responsibly breeding purebreeds, breeding for purpose, tracing pedigrees and paying attention to genetics, unless you are breeding in conformance with REAL kennel club standards (and this doesn't mean CKC or APRI or any of the other illegitimate registries... UKC and AKC are the primary ones here in the US... most others service mills and bad breeders), unless you are planning litters MONTHS in advance, and have potential adopters lined up before conception occurs, DON'T BREED.

Believe me, I know. I see it, seven days a week. I'm the guy holding the needle. I am the death-bringer at a Western Washington shelter. Each and every morning, I get to start my day by injecting somnolent death into the veins of the Puget Sound's unwanted animals. Every single day, forced to clean up the messes of others via euthanasia. Nothing would make me happier than to go into work tomorrow and have no surplus animals to euthanize... but the sad reality is that euthanasia will ALWAYS be necessary, simply because people will ALWAYS treat their pets as property and a means of income. People will ALWAYS continue to breed irresponsibly. But please, do your part. Spay or neuter your pets. If you want to breed, pleasee make sure your animal DESERVES to have it's genetics carried on into a new generation. Breeding is not a right, but a responsibility. It is a job, and it takes effort to do it right. The penalty for doing it wrong just means a continuation of the endless cycle of death.

BREED RESPONSIBLY, or DON'T BREED! Any questions?

[omichka]

just add. Of course, yorkie mixes are popular, but still many of them in shelters. I know one rescue in our state who REGULARLY bring SMALL designer breeds from hi-kill shelters in California, because just too many of them. You can easily find them on petfinder.com

And on top of that, you will get already fixed/microchipped/UTD all shots for price less than from a breeder. Breeders sell mix pups only. All vet expenses (spay/neuter. etc.) will be on you.

[Krystee]

So I have a question for you... I did do a internet search on this topic and it seems that it's one of those topics with supporters on both sides of the issue.

Anyway, what qualifies a "breed" for breeding in your opinion? I own a Rat Terrier whom my parents purchased from a breeder back in 1993. At that time, Rat Terriers were not recognized by the UKC or the AKC. They are still not recognized by the AKC and weren't by the UKC until 1999. So does that mean, that the breeders who bred my baby were irresponsible? We got to see the mom and dad and the puppies were kept inside the house and well loved. They had also had their shots and we received the shot record. She is now 15 years old and has been so healthy and just a joy to have in my life.

I am asking because I am truly intrigued by this topic and why people are so passionate about it. I mean, if we are talking about all the animals in shelters who are being euthanized everyday then why don't we just say, that no one should be breeding - purebred or not. Or if animals should only be breed to ensure the breed survives then why don't be propose having to have a license to breed that would be regulated by the government? I personally could never bring myself to breed (if I knew all the ends and outs about breeding) because I would be soooo worried that my puppies were going to end up with irresponsible people and then end up in a shelter. However, I have nothing against loving people who are breeding healthy. happy, well-rounded puppies regardless if they are purebred or mixed breeds.

You have sparked my interest and I am just really curious on this subject now

[phfgkl]

Originally Posted by Krystee

So I have a question for you... I did do a internet search on this topic and it seems that it's one of those topics with supporters on both sides of the issue.

Anyway, what qualifies a "breed" for breeding in your opinion? I own a Rat Terrier whom my parents purchased from a breeder back in 1993. At that time, Rat Terriers were not recognized by the UKC or the AKC. They are still not recognized by the AKC and weren't by the UKC until 1999. So does that mean, that the breeders who bred my baby were irresponsible? We got to see the mom and dad and the puppies were kept inside the house and well loved. They had also had their shots and we received the shot record. She is now 15 years old and has been so healthy and just a joy to have in my life.

I am asking because I am truly intrigued by this topic and why people are so passionate about it. I mean, if we are talking about all the animals in shelters who are being euthanized everyday then why don't we just say, that no one should be breeding - purebred or not. Or if animals should only be breed to ensure the breed survives then why don't be propose having to have a license to breed that would be regulated by the government? I personally could never bring myself to breed (if I knew all the ends and outs about breeding) because I would be soooo worried that my puppies were going to end up with irresponsible people and then end up in a shelter. However, I have nothing against loving people who are breeding healthy. happy, well-rounded puppies regardless if they are purebred or mixed breeds.

You have sparked my interest and I am just really curious on this subject now

Good post. Everyone always seems to think it's just mixed breeds that end up in animal shelters, there are A LOT of yorkies and other purebreds, it's just that you don't see as many as they hurry and get them to foster parents or rescues. I have called a few of the shelters around here, trying to find a purebred or mixed (small dog) is about impossible, as they go so fast. I don't think someone intentionally mixing makes for a bad breeder, not if they do everything the right way!

[ChantalB]

It is going to be hard to get a puppy for less than $500 from a reputable breeder.

But as other already recommend you. You can fund a loving puppy in a shelter.

Good luck

[Krystee]

Originally Posted by phfgkl

Good post. Everyone always seems to think it's just mixed breeds that end up in animal shelters, there are A LOT of yorkies and other purebreds, it's just that you don't see as many as they hurry and get them to foster parents or rescues. I have called a few of the shelters around here, trying to find a purebred or mixed (small dog) is about impossible, as they go so fast. I don't think someone intentionally mixing makes for a bad breeder, not if they do everything the right way!

Exactly, and I'm sure there have been many mixed dogs that were bred and sold and ended up in loving, forever homes.

[ParrotLady]

Originally Posted by DogLovingOwner

Ever since Prudence died, I've searched and searched for another yorkie, for another companion. I just can't afford to pay $700 for a fur baby. If I had the money, I would pay $3,000 for another furbaby.

First, I am so sorry for your loss and your frustration at trying to find another companion.

Second, I am sorry that your plea has turned this thread into a debate instead of comforting you.

Third, If you are willing to drive some to get a good dog, I would keep a watch in papers of nearby towns for someone with a pet that they are trying to find a home for.

Examples: (NOT saying I agree with all these examples, just saying these things happen.)

Our elderly neighbors found out that the wife had cancer and she started going down hill and fast. She died, their daughter moved him 6 hours away to a senior home where he could not bring their pets.

Someone else I knew purchased a pure bred Yorkie when they got married. She got pregnant and had to stay in bed. The dog didn't get potty trained before this and even though it broke her heart, they re-homed the puppy because they didn't feel like they could deal with the dog. (Sure wish I could have gotten that dog!)

I have heard of other people that purchased Yorkies and gave up on them in the first year or two when they could not potty train them. (They didn't have the support of YorkieTalk )

People move into apartments that won't allow pets and on and on and on. I hope that you will find a dog that needs a new home and will be less expensive for you.

I WOULD require that they give you the number of their vet and sign a release for the records to be transferred to your vet. This will allow you to have your vet examine the records and then your vet can tell you if there are any health issues he/she is concerned about. It also lets you know the dog has been cared for and is not stolen.

[Krystee]

Originally Posted by ParrotLady

First, I am so sorry for your loss and your frustration at trying to find another companion.

Second, I am sorry that your plea has turned this thread into a debate instead of comforting you.

Third, If you are willing to drive some to get a good dog, I would keep a watch in papers of nearby towns for someone with a pet that they are trying to find a home for.

Examples: (NOT saying I agree with all these examples, just saying these things happen.)

Our elderly neighbors found out that the wife had cancer and she started going down hill and fast. She died, their daughter moved him 6 hours away to a senior home where he could not bring their pets.

Someone else I knew purchased a pure bred Yorkie when they got married. She got pregnant and had to stay in bed. The dog didn't get potty trained before this and even though it broke her heart, they re-homed the puppy because they didn't feel like they could deal with the dog. (Sure wish I could have gotten that dog!)

I have heard of other people that purchased Yorkies and gave up on them in the first year or two when they could not potty train them. (They didn't have the support of YorkieTalk )

People move into apartments that won't allow pets and on and on and on. I hope that you will find a dog that needs a new home and will be less expensive for you.

I WOULD require that they give you the number of their vet and sign a release for the records to be transferred to your vet. This will allow you to have your vet examine the records and then your vet can tell you if there are any health issues he/she is concerned about. It also lets you know the dog has been cared for and is not stolen.

Yes, I do apologize. I only posted on this topic because I know how hard it is to lose a furbaby and my heart hurts for you. I apologize that it went off subject and if anyone wants to continue this subject then we will start a new thread. I hope you find a precious baby soon.

[phfgkl]

Originally Posted by DogLovingOwner

Ever since Prudence died, I've searched and searched for another yorkie, for another companion. I just can't afford to pay $700 for a fur baby. If I had the money, I would pay $3,000 for another furbaby.

So I emailed this lady, about a yorkipoo ad, (that was posted like 10x on one site). Telling her how much I wanted to buy her female puppy. I emailed her at 4 times in one day. Then she Finally wrote back. She said to call her, I was a little suspicious because her grammar in emails was not great. So I called and talked to her, she said she would hold the puppy for me only, until I called her back at 3 o'clock. I called her back at 2:59. No answer. I just called her back now 4 o'clock. She answered, why didn't she call me back from earlier? She said, she has other people wanting her now, and I even think one, is from a puppymill. She got mad, that I couldn't pick the puppy up till tommorow. She said she would call me back later.

All hope is lost for me right now. Oh Prudence, I miss you so much.

I was just thinking, what about the lady on here that is going to be moving in to another place, and is going to have to work 2 jobs and is most likely going to have to get rid of both of her dogs? They're both females and yorkies and are adorable.

[Britster]

Originally Posted by Krystee

So I have a question for you... I did do a internet search on this topic and it seems that it's one of those topics with supporters on both sides of the issue.

Anyway, what qualifies a "breed" for breeding in your opinion? I own a Rat Terrier whom my parents purchased from a breeder back in 1993. At that time, Rat Terriers were not recognized by the UKC or the AKC. They are still not recognized by the AKC and weren't by the UKC until 1999. So does that mean, that the breeders who bred my baby were irresponsible? We got to see the mom and dad and the puppies were kept inside the house and well loved. They had also had their shots and we received the shot record. She is now 15 years old and has been so healthy and just a joy to have in my life.

I am asking because I am truly intrigued by this topic and why people are so passionate about it. I mean, if we are talking about all the animals in shelters who are being euthanized everyday then why don't we just say, that no one should be breeding - purebred or not. Or if animals should only be breed to ensure the breed survives then why don't be propose having to have a license to breed that would be regulated by the government? I personally could never bring myself to breed (if I knew all the ends and outs about breeding) because I would be soooo worried that my puppies were going to end up with irresponsible people and then end up in a shelter. However, I have nothing against loving people who are breeding healthy. happy, well-rounded puppies regardless if they are purebred or mixed breeds.

You have sparked my interest and I am just really curious on this subject now

I completely AGREE.

If you're going to be so passionate about not breeding mixes, you might as well not breed at all. If you're looking at it that way - there is NO reason for breeders to continue. There isplenty of dogs and puppies to go around in shelters and on the streets. I don't see a difference in breeding purebreds or mixed breeds. It's all the same, technically. You're still adding to the over-population of dogs.

[YorkieShadow]

Have you looked on craigslist? They have a lot on there. just click on those and write Yorkie in the search part. just be careful with scams.
craigslist: north carolina classifieds for jobs, apartments, personals, for sale, services, community, and events

Re:6 MONTH OLD FEMALE MINI YORKSHIRE TERRIER FREE TO A GOOD HOME (SOUT

yorkie

***2 Dogs Need a Good Home ****

Yorkie

Yorkie

this one is adorable
Yorkie 1 1/2 year old

Yorkie (mix maybe)

maltase-yorkie!!!VERY CUTE


There are so many on there would take me days to list them all.
Good luck in finding your baby.

[nanahas3]

Originally Posted by ParrotLady

First, I am so sorry for your loss and your frustration at trying to find another companion.

Second, I am sorry that your plea has turned this thread into a debate instead of comforting you.

Third, If you are willing to drive some to get a good dog, I would keep a watch in papers of nearby towns for someone with a pet that they are trying to find a home for.

Examples: (NOT saying I agree with all these examples, just saying these things happen.)

Our elderly neighbors found out that the wife had cancer and she started going down hill and fast. She died, their daughter moved him 6 hours away to a senior home where he could not bring their pets.

Someone else I knew purchased a pure bred Yorkie when they got married. She got pregnant and had to stay in bed. The dog didn't get potty trained before this and even though it broke her heart, they re-homed the puppy because they didn't feel like they could deal with the dog. (Sure wish I could have gotten that dog!)

I have heard of other people that purchased Yorkies and gave up on them in the first year or two when they could not potty train them. (They didn't have the support of YorkieTalk )

People move into apartments that won't allow pets and on and on and on. I hope that you will find a dog that needs a new home and will be less expensive for you.

I WOULD require that they give you the number of their vet and sign a release for the records to be transferred to your vet. This will allow you to have your vet examine the records and then your vet can tell you if there are any health issues he/she is concerned about. It also lets you know the dog has been cared for and is not stolen.

Excellent post. I also am so sorry for your loss but I truly believe with a heart like yours there is another lovely furbaby waiting for you and God will provide a way for you to get it. I love the pure bred dogs but I have also seen some chorki's and morki's on sites for adoption from rescues that I would take in a heartbeat. Good luck with your search and God bless.