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ARCHIE · 01-30-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley V

Sometimes people don't realize it's an emergency and it really is. The other day I posted here about Smokey shaking like crazy and acting strange. I didn't know what to do and it ended up being nothing, but it could have been something big. Is that so wrong that I posted there? Am I an "idiot" or "irresponsible"? No, I think not.

There is no post in this thread that said "It's now obvious" no one wants
to help! That's a terrible thing to state, no one said any such thing.
Again, words being spoken that were never said.
We are taking about a dire emergency and why the vet should be the
first person called. That's all! Please don't put words out there that
were never spoken because another poster will come along read what
you just said and go with it. Before you know it this thread will be closed!
It happens everytime because people do not read.
Bye, I"ve had enough.
Hope all your pups remain healthy and happy.

P.S. No one called you an idiot or irresponsible.
To be honest if it were I and Buddy was shaking like crazy and acting
strangely,I would have been off to the vet. Why? Because my first thought
would have been he ate something poisonious. Nothing around but
you never know. That's me it dosen't mean you were wrong at all.
And yes that's YT is here to help other's. I guess like everything else
an emergency is different to different people.

Joodles · 01-30-2009, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashley V

Sometimes people don't realize it's an emergency and it really is. The other day I posted here about Smokey shaking like crazy and acting strange. I didn't know what to do and it ended up being nothing, but it could have been something big. Or the other times Chip was so sick with vaccine reactions? Is that so wrong that I posted there? Am I an "idiot" or "irresponsible"? No, I think not. I'm just someone who wanted advice from someone who had been there, done that kind of thing.

my sentiments exactly Ashley

Lexi Rae · 01-30-2009, 10:53 AM

thats right, i never called any one person an idiot.. all im saying is
pls be responsible thats all....

Deegan's mom · 01-30-2009, 10:59 AM

I can only speak for myself and usually ask for opinions/help if it is a minor situation, such as poop eating. I have asked for opinions/help after seeing a vet and their recommendations not working. For example: Deegan was losing weight and had bad diarreha for days and once I took him to the vet (3 times) and finally got a diagnosis, either vet in the office still didn't give me the proper medication. Deegan weight did stabalize, but he wasn't gaining any back and I was really nervous so I decided to do some research on my own and low and behold I stumbled upon an EPI Yahoo Group. I also found one for Trooper's LS too. And to be honest - those people have been a god send!!! Their the ones who recommended me put Deegan on another med and in two days he gained 3/4 lbs back and is progressing so good!!! Basically it boils down to me kinda losing faith in some of the vets around here. If it weren't for the groups I wouldn't have learned the stuff I needed to to help get my babies back to health.

Ashley V · 01-30-2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

There is no post in this thread that said "It's now obvious" no one wants
to help! That's a terrible thing to state, no one said any such thing.
Again, words being spoken that were never said.
We are taking about a dire emergency and why the vet should be the
first person called. That's all! Please don't put words out there that
were never spoken because another poster will come along read what
you just said and go with it. Before you know it this thread will be closed!
It happens everytime because people do not read.
Bye, I"ve had enough.
Hope all your pups remain healthy and happy.

P.S. No one called you an idiot or irresponsible.
To be honest if it were I and Buddy was shaking like crazy and acting
strangely,I would have been off to the vet. Why? Because my first thought
would have been he ate something poisonious. Nothing around but
you never know. That's me it dosen't mean you were wrong at all.
And yes that's YT is here to help other's. I guess like everything else
an emergency is different to different people.

Actually I don't know what you're talking about... but okay. Whatever. And I never said anyone specifically called me an idiot or irresponsible, but those words have been used in this thread to describe some of the desperate posts of people. I was asking if I am in the same category because I came here for help to. I mean, I thought that is what a forum was for... so people could talk about their dogs and seek advice. I must have been thinking wrong apparently since people are blatantly complaining about it. And when people post threads or post in threads complaining about people that post in certain forums, yes that does make and induction that some people don't want to help.

Ashley V · 01-30-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lexi Rae

thats right, i never called any one person an idiot.. all im saying is
pls be responsible thats all....

I never said you or anyone else specifically called me specifically an idiot... I was making an example...

chachi · 01-30-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley V

Actually I don't know what you're talking about... but okay. Whatever. And I never said anyone specifically called me an idiot or irresponsible, but those words have been used in this thread to describe some of the desperate posts of people. I was asking if I am in the same category because I came here for help to. I mean, I thought that is what a forum was for... so people could talk about their dogs and seek advice. I must have been thinking wrong apparently since people are blatantly complaining about it. And when people post threads or post in threads complaining about people that post in certain forums, yes that does make and induction that some people don't want to help.

I dont think its because people dont want to help but more that we are unqualified to help in some of these emergency situations. A good example is the pup that got stepped on and ended up dying because they didnt get it to a vet in time

MicaDixie · 01-30-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by chachi

I have seen very few people who posted an emergency get flamed. Unless they just didnt want to pay for a vet. Most posters are very sympathetic and givve the op info about care credit and other organizations that will pay for emergency pet care

I somewhat disaggree.

I know I'm "new" here....but all I can say is WOW! I've never seen such a rude group of individuals in all my life!
I love my dog, try my very best to keep her healthy and happy...that's one of the reasons I joined this board. But, since joining I've seen time and time again where people are made to feel like trash because of a question they ask, the food they feed their dog, how often they leave them, where they take them, etc. It's crazy!
I guess it's like parenting, some think they know it all and are perfect. My philosophy is...I do the best I can and LEARN from asking questions. I'm new at this, do not make all the money in the world (therefore cannot afford to spend THOUSANDS in vet bills), but I love my dog and that should be enough!
Flame me all you want...I just had to speak my mind and let you know some of you are WAY over the top.

LibbieLu08 · 01-30-2009, 11:09 AM

I think it goes both ways. . . . WE shouldn't start calling each other names and what not. You have to understand both sides. I'm a first time yorkie owner to and if I had a medical problem (not life and death) with my baby I would post it here because there is some very good advice that people give here on YT. And when you are paging your doc waiting for him to respond why not do a quick thread (if you haven't notice people on YT do reply FAST!) . . . BUT for those whos dog is shaking like crazy or choking or whatever . . . I don't understand why they didn't rush to the ER but they might have their own reason.

So believe it or not. . . . people can and will post whatever they want.

just my opinion. . .

ARCHIE · 01-30-2009, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ashley V

Actually I don't know what you're talking about... but okay. Whatever. And I never said anyone specifically called me an idiot or irresponsible, but those words have been used in this thread to describe some of the desperate posts of people. I was asking if I am in the same category because I came here for help to. I mean, I thought that is what a forum was for... so people could talk about their dogs and seek advice. I must have been thinking wrong apparently since people are blatantly complaining about it. And when people post threads or post in threads complaining about people that post in certain forums, yes that does make and induction that some people don't want to help.

Obviously, I answered your post before you edited it!
Again, what an emergency is to one person does not mean
it's the same to another. Everyone on here want's to help in
whatever way they can. You know it and so do I.
Stop with the nonsence!

Ashley V · 01-30-2009, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARCHIE

Obviously, I answered your post before you edited it!
Again, what an emergency is to one person does not mean
it's the same to another. Everyone on here want's to help in
whatever way they can. You know it and so do I.
Stop with the nonsence!

Yes I did edit my post because I did realize I typed without thinking, but what you quoted didn't say that in it... so again... confused. And I NEVER said it's obvious NO ONE wanted to help. What I said is that it's apparent SOME people don't want to help.

It's not nonsense. It's my opinion and I have a right to have it and state it. I'm not saying anything wrong I'm just saying that it is intimidating to a lot of people when they see threads of people complaining about them posting about their sick dogs and seeking advice.

Lexi Rae · 01-30-2009, 11:55 AM

all i could say is after almost 10,000 posts from me and plenty others here,
i think we have helped alot of people here and still intend to.

ARCHIE · 01-30-2009, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lexi Rae

all i could say is after almost 10,000 posts from me and plenty others here,
i think we have helped alot of people here and still intend to.

Amen to that Gina.
That's what's it's all about.

Yorkiekids · 01-30-2009, 12:41 PM

I'm on the fence with this one. The economy is bad and some of the newbies are just asking for an opinion. That I don't mind, but when people ask for help then don't follow any advice their given then I get mad.

QuickSilver · 01-30-2009, 01:05 PM

Would it be better if these people weren't asking questions at all?

I don't look much in the Emergency thread, so maybe I'm missing the posts that are upsetting people so much. BUT, from my limited perspective, it seems to me that as long as people are trying to learn how to care for their pets, they should not be judged.

Thor's previous owner told me she went to the vet four times because she didn't understand what reverse sneezing was. I'm not sure why the vets didn't tell her, but she spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on a question that she could easily have had answered here. So I think it works both ways. Reverse sneezing sounds horribly scary, but usually does not merit a trip to the vets office. Yes, maybe it seems like some people lack common sense, but if that's the case, are they supposed to magically acquire it? If you don't know, ask a question. That's my philosophy.

01-30-2009, 10:53 AM	#48
Lexi Rae Gina, (Lexi's Mommy) Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LONG ISLAND,NY Posts: 10,455	thats right, i never called any one person an idiot.. all im saying is pls be responsible thats all.... __________________ Gina & Lexi CLICK HERE for our Photo Album ...

01-30-2009, 10:59 AM	#49
Deegan's mom YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Windsor, ON Posts: 1,271	I can only speak for myself and usually ask for opinions/help if it is a minor situation, such as poop eating. I have asked for opinions/help after seeing a vet and their recommendations not working. For example: Deegan was losing weight and had bad diarreha for days and once I took him to the vet (3 times) and finally got a diagnosis, either vet in the office still didn't give me the proper medication. Deegan weight did stabalize, but he wasn't gaining any back and I was really nervous so I decided to do some research on my own and low and behold I stumbled upon an EPI Yahoo Group. I also found one for Trooper's LS too. And to be honest - those people have been a god send!!! Their the ones who recommended me put Deegan on another med and in two days he gained 3/4 lbs back and is progressing so good!!! Basically it boils down to me kinda losing faith in some of the vets around here. If it weren't for the groups I wouldn't have learned the stuff I needed to to help get my babies back to health. __________________ Jayde, Deegan & Trooper ~Be the change you wish to see in the world - Adopt a rescue pet~

01-30-2009, 11:09 AM	#54
LibbieLu08 YT Addict Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Milwaukee,WI Posts: 331	I think it goes both ways. . . . WE shouldn't start calling each other names and what not. You have to understand both sides. I'm a first time yorkie owner to and if I had a medical problem (not life and death) with my baby I would post it here because there is some very good advice that people give here on YT. And when you are paging your doc waiting for him to respond why not do a quick thread (if you haven't notice people on YT do reply FAST!) . . . BUT for those whos dog is shaking like crazy or choking or whatever . . . I don't understand why they didn't rush to the ER but they might have their own reason. So believe it or not. . . . people can and will post whatever they want. just my opinion. . . __________________ LibbieLu

01-30-2009, 11:55 AM	#57
Lexi Rae Gina, (Lexi's Mommy) Donating Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: LONG ISLAND,NY Posts: 10,455	all i could say is after almost 10,000 posts from me and plenty others here, i think we have helped alot of people here and still intend to. __________________ Gina & Lexi CLICK HERE for our Photo Album ...

01-30-2009, 12:41 PM	#59
Yorkiekids Piper & Sebastian Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: florida Posts: 14,495	I'm on the fence with this one. The economy is bad and some of the newbies are just asking for an opinion. That I don't mind, but when people ask for help then don't follow any advice their given then I get mad. __________________ Susan, Piper ,Harley & Suiki

01-30-2009, 01:05 PM	#60
QuickSilver Thor's Human Donating Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 5,929 Blog Entries: 31	Would it be better if these people weren't asking questions at all? I don't look much in the Emergency thread, so maybe I'm missing the posts that are upsetting people so much. BUT, from my limited perspective, it seems to me that as long as people are trying to learn how to care for their pets, they should not be judged. Thor's previous owner told me she went to the vet four times because she didn't understand what reverse sneezing was. I'm not sure why the vets didn't tell her, but she spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on a question that she could easily have had answered here. So I think it works both ways. Reverse sneezing sounds horribly scary, but usually does not merit a trip to the vets office. Yes, maybe it seems like some people lack common sense, but if that's the case, are they supposed to magically acquire it? If you don't know, ask a question. That's my philosophy.