I am disgusted by this

[heatherm0890]

wow everyone has pretty strong opinions...maybe she just wanted someone to talk to about it not be judged or told how wrong she is...sometimes im offended by the things some people say and the way they say it...a little niceness wouldnt hurt huh?...maybe we should start treating the fellow yorkietalkers like we do our yorkies (unless of course they are harming the little ones?)

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by gr8youngmom

Ok I am sure I am gonna get a good brow beating for this but before you do please just hear me out. I understand that alot of people are irresponsible breeders and toy breeds need more attention when breed and alot of people are equipt to handle it. However, I think that a breeder getting extra money off breeding rights or even having such control over what "Bob" does with his dog it not correct. It is "his" dog, and I think the responsiblity of breeding it or not should be left in the hands of the person who owns the animal. I do agree however that most dogs should be pet only and so on, but it is not you the breeders right to decide who can do what with their dog, more-so when you charge the price of a used car for the dog!! Yorkies very expensive dogs, and the prices that breeders charge for them is part of what fuels people to breed their dogs " to get their money back" or whatever else. I understand both sides but I think breeders should not have the right to control who breeds and who doesn't and why do they need to charge an extra fee for breeding?

Breeders not only have the right to decide who breeds their pets they have the responsibility! They also have the right to choose who is allowed to buy one of their dogs as a pet, they have the right to turn down anyone that they don't believe will be a good pet owner for any reason. That's why I don't like pet stores selling dogs, they really won't turn anyone down. Lots of people should not own dogs, that will become more evident to you the more time you spend on Yorkietalk.

[heatherm0890]

let it go!why are you still fighting!!its riduculous!

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by heatherm0890

let it go!why are you still fighting!!its riduculous!

In essence, aren't you doing the same thing by continuing to respond and demanding that others refrain from posting? Can't control what other say and how and when they respond...downside of a public forum.

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by heatherm0890

let it go!why are you still fighting!!its riduculous!

No one's fighting, her point was that breeders have no right to tell others what they can do with the pets they buy; my point was that they not only have the right, they have the responsibility. Two different perspectives, you can choose the one you like. If this thread upsets you, don't read it.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

Two different perspectives, you can choose the one you like. If this thread upsets you, don't read it.

[BamaFan121s]

I understand what you mean. Sometimes it upsets me a wee bit to see people just going off on rants and losing their cool about basically nothing too. Then sometimes I just ignore it ...what can ya do...

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by Nancy1999

No one's fighting, her point was that breeders have no right to tell others what they can do with the pets they buy; my point was that they not only have the right, they have the responsibility. Two different perspectives, you can choose the one you like. If this thread upsets you, don't read it.

Amen! I see this all of the time on YT. Why does everyone think that others are supposed to have the same opinion that they do. Why is everything viewed as a fight or rude??? I seriously do not understand. If you ask for advice, be prepared to get it. Take what you can use and leave the rest behind.

[Nancy1999]

Sorry, but I really find your posts rude and attacking. I'm not just saying that to be mean.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by heatherm0890

yea im done with this thread. .

Probably a good idea if a simple discussion gets you this upset!

[chachi]

Originally Posted by heatherm0890

im sorry it does upset me to see a bunch of grown ups acting like children,i hope your proud of yourselves.you ran away a new member becuz of your rude statements.there is no reason not to voice yor opnion but doing to so mean is uncalled for.i guess i was raised to be respectful

I havent even been on this thread but I havent seen anybody be as rude as you have calling people 5 yr olds. It seems like you want to argue

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by heatherm0890

yea im done with this thread. i just wish people would grow up and act like adults.its so silly to run away new members like that...this place is so imformative and helpful it upsets me to see it getting a bad rep because of a few members being rude. there are ways to give advice without being rude! i dont understand how its such a hard concept to understand.

I do get your point in a way...I really do. I just don't understand what has you so upset here. People giving advice or suggestions in a "not so nice" way, the advice given? I believe that you have done the same thing before with new members (not that it matters if it's a new or long-time member)...I would think you would somewhat understand how frustrating it can be to feel passionately about something and not feel like you are adequately explaining your point/view.

Point in case, from another thread posted by a new member (at the time):

Originally Posted by heatherm0890

ok everyone has tried to be helpful but you arent taking the advice anyone is giving you. It is very good advice,if you do not care for it,you should not have posted...just my opnion.

Originally Posted by heatherm0890

Why do people ask for advice when they dont take it aghhh!!!!

Originally Posted by heatherm0890

thank you! i am not trying to be rude to her, i was just trying to get my point across but it wasnt working lol

[jexxie]

Well, No one has ran me off yet.. I had to come back to get a chuckle from all of this "maltese" talk and off topic conversation. I'm just sitting here trying not to crack up laughing because of all this "responsible breeder talk". Look people, I'm not stupid and I'm not irresponsible. You can all think that if you want to but I personally don't care either way. And as for responsible breeding, is there such a thing? I mean, sure you can spay and neuter your pets before they go to a new home but does that make you responsible? Does holding your female and making her get bred make you responsible? Does helping your little guy get the job done because he's so small make you responsible? We all know the smaller the better, right? How is it responsible to breed a 3 or 4 lb dog to begin with? How is it responsible to even breed at all? I'm sick of everyone saying they breed for the "betterment" of the breed. If that was the case, wouldn't you keep one of the pups? I'm not saying some of you don't do this, but I think alot of this talk is BS. I just looked through the whole list of pups for sale on here and rarely did I see anything about a spay/neuter contract. Face it, lots of you breed for money and you can say you don't all day long but you do! I'm not pointing fingers at any one imparticular, but look at all of the pups for sale on YT alone! Those were all bred for the "betterment of the breed?" BS, I say!!! This conversation started as one thing and it turned into another. It's quite ridiculous and besides that, what is really ridiculous, is how some of you are sitting here acting like you are the queen yorkie parent/breeder and you do no wrong. Who are you to judge me? I said everyones entitled to their opinion, and yes, maybe I did make a mistake, but you don't have to be so hateful. I refuse to even associate myself with people like you. So I hope you're happy that you got to take your frustrations out on me for the day. And as far as me leaving, I've decided to stay. I'm better than that... Have a nice day!

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by jexxie

Well, No one has ran me off yet.. I had to come back to get a chuckle from all of this "maltese" talk and off topic conversation.

I'm glad you have a good sense of humor. You need it somedays. Sorry I took part in the hijacking of your thread. Welcome to YT, in case I didn't welcome you already.

[ladyjane]

Originally Posted by jexxie

Well, No one has ran me off yet.. I had to come back to get a chuckle from all of this "maltese" talk and off topic conversation. I'm just sitting here trying not to crack up laughing because of all this "responsible breeder talk". Look people, I'm not stupid and I'm not irresponsible. You can all think that if you want to but I personally don't care either way. And as for responsible breeding, is there such a thing? I mean, sure you can spay and neuter your pets before they go to a new home but does that make you responsible? Does holding your female and making her get bred make you responsible? Does helping your little guy get the job done because he's so small make you responsible? We all know the smaller the better, right? How is it responsible to breed a 3 or 4 lb dog to begin with? How is it responsible to even breed at all? I'm sick of everyone saying they breed for the "betterment" of the breed. If that was the case, wouldn't you keep one of the pups? I'm not saying some of you don't do this, but I think alot of this talk is BS. I just looked through the whole list of pups for sale on here and rarely did I see anything about a spay/neuter contract. Face it, lots of you breed for money and you can say you don't all day long but you do! I'm not pointing fingers at any one imparticular, but look at all of the pups for sale on YT alone! Those were all bred for the "betterment of the breed?" BS, I say!!! This conversation started as one thing and it turned into another. It's quite ridiculous and besides that, what is really ridiculous, is how some of you are sitting here acting like you are the queen yorkie parent/breeder and you do no wrong. Who are you to judge me? I said everyones entitled to their opinion, and yes, maybe I did make a mistake, but you don't have to be so hateful. I refuse to even associate myself with people like you. So I hope you're happy that you got to take your frustrations out on me for the day. And as far as me leaving, I've decided to stay. I'm better than that... Have a nice day!

I have nothing to say about the content of your thread regarding breeders. What I want to comment on is your decision to stick around...now that's the spirit!
You came here and asked for and received comments. No one went looking for you!
Whatever the thread led to....that is what happens.
I said it before..take what you can and leave the rest behind. There is nothing rude about someone saying how they feel. Not everyone is going to agree..that is life!
Welcome to YT!