tails?

[LilMissy]

How many of you had your sons circumcised?

We circumsized our first boy, but it was such a bad experience for us that we didn't do it for our 2nd. Both my husband and I found the procedure to be quite harsh.

I'm also a professionally trained body piercer, and my 3.5 yr old daughters ears are not pierced. They won't be done for quite some time either!

To each his own, I guess!

[AVERYxo]

Originally Posted by Koran

Both of my yorkies are docked. When I lost my mixed breed dachsund/s**tzu (sp?) mix after 17 years I thought long and hard about getting another dog. I CHOSE the yorkie breed. The reason I liked them was how they looked and their small size. The standard stated tails are docked. I wanted what I saw. One of my pups dock is tiny, the other a bit longer but in general, that little nub can tuck in fear and wag in excitement just the same. As far as the pain, reputable breeders that are good at what they do, handle the details of their breeding offspring in a manner, at least in this country, that meets the standard. With this comes AKC registration and continuance of the selective qualities of the breed. When done early AS INTENDED, it can be compared to cutting the umbilical cord on a human, most of the pups are more scared than reacting to pain, they are reacting to their surroundings being changed. As far as the mounds of videos out there, if you look hard enough you can find a video making anything look barbaric. With this, part of selecting your breeder is finding one that handles details such as this properly. The problem, and might I add, most of what you find in video, are people performing this task with less than adequate training. Yes, its a choice, but I wouldnt have it any other way.
If you do not want a docked pup you will need to find a breeder that is willing to work with you for your wishes. It is not a choice for me, my dogs are and all future ones will be. I choose to own a pure bred yorkie and will only consider yorkies that meet the standard. That doesnt make me barbaric or less humane than those who choose not to dock, it makes me an owner proud in what the breed has become and an owner willing to honor that standard.

very well said. i agree.
but, to each their own.

[hugz4all4]

Originally Posted by Koran

Both of my yorkies are docked. When I lost my mixed breed dachsund/s**tzu (sp?) mix after 17 years I thought long and hard about getting another dog. I CHOSE the yorkie breed. The reason I liked them was how they looked and their small size. The standard stated tails are docked. I wanted what I saw. One of my pups dock is tiny, the other a bit longer but in general, that little nub can tuck in fear and wag in excitement just the same. As far as the pain, reputable breeders that are good at what they do, handle the details of their breeding offspring in a manner, at least in this country, that meets the standard. With this comes AKC registration and continuance of the selective qualities of the breed. When done early AS INTENDED, it can be compared to cutting the umbilical cord on a human, most of the pups are more scared than reacting to pain, they are reacting to their surroundings being changed. As far as the mounds of videos out there, if you look hard enough you can find a video making anything look barbaric. With this, part of selecting your breeder is finding one that handles details such as this properly. The problem, and might I add, most of what you find in video, are people performing this task with less than adequate training. Yes, its a choice, but I wouldnt have it any other way.
If you do not want a docked pup you will need to find a breeder that is willing to work with you for your wishes. It is not a choice for me, my dogs are and all future ones will be. I choose to own a pure bred yorkie and will only consider yorkies that meet the standard. That doesnt make me barbaric or less humane than those who choose not to dock, it makes me an owner proud in what the breed has become and an owner willing to honor that standard.

[DaisyMaeSiliven]

My Daisy had a litter and one of the pups was so weak the vet wasn't expecting her to make it so he wouldn't dock her tail with the others. She is now 11 weeks old and needless to say the one we are keeping. She is ABSOLUTELY adorable with her tail. When others came to pick out puppies so many people were interested in Jelly. We were going to get her tail docked as an adult to be up to standards but I think we have decided against that.

Daisy and Jelly's mom

[kezza]

I do remember a thread a while back about yorkie ear piercing and members here were disgusted by it...so whats the difference? I think that once the Top show yorkies in the USA are being shown with tail intact then it will become more widely accepted..the problem is that our american friends are just are not used to seeing the yorkie with a full tail so it looks 'odd' to them which I find incredibly sad..I'm very happy it is banned here in the UK..and Pixie's tail is just a delight to watch I love it! she has long hair on her tail that waves around like a pretty feather!..she is very confident for a 3lb'er and she carries it high in the air..it never stays still!

[Keely_momma]

Originally Posted by kezza

I do remember a thread a while back about yorkie ear piercing and members here were disgusted by it...so whats the difference? I think that once the Top show yorkies in the USA are being shown with tail intact then it will become more widely accepted..the problem is that our american friends are just are not used to seeing the yorkie with a full tail so it looks 'odd' to them which I find incredibly sad..I'm very happy it is banned here in the UK..and Pixie's tail is just a delight to watch I love it! she has long hair on her tail that waves around like a pretty feather!..she is very confident for a 3lb'er and she carries it high in the air..it never stays still!

Lol.. I owuld love to see some pictures of your girl with her tail held high! I wish keelys tail was full length!

[kezza]

Originally Posted by Keely_momma

Lol.. I owuld love to see some pictures of your girl with her tail held high! I wish keelys tail was full length!

I will have to get a video of it sometime! its soooo funny!

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by kezza

I do remember a thread a while back about yorkie ear piercing and members here were disgusted by it...so whats the difference? I think that once the Top show yorkies in the USA are being shown with tail intact then it will become more widely accepted..

There is a huge difference. For one, tails are done when a pup is days old, not an adult. And wouldn't that be horrific if something happened and it got ripped out!? Yikes! A dog with an earring is not part of the standard....I'm sure if they added it though, you'd see it. If and when the standard is changed and the practice is banned, then the top show Yorkies would have a tail, but not until....kind of goes against the whole principal of a conformatione event....seeing which dog best conforms to the standard...
I would be willing to bet though, that banning the practice is not something likely to happen any time soon. That issue is mild in comparison to some of the other issues dogs face everyday.

[kezza]

I remember on the ear piercing thread posters were saying that they were sure that if their yorkie could talk that they would say they would prefer not to have their ears pierced..dont you think they would say that they would prefer to keep their tails? Just a thought...

I know this topic has been discussed on here no end of times..and it is a topic i'm very passionate about..these threads do tend to get heated sometimes..so I hope we can all keep this one at an adult level and be kind to each other and respectful of each others views on this subject

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by kezza

I remember on the ear piercing thread posters were saying that they were sure that if their yorkie could talk that they would say they would prefer not to have their ears pierced..dont you think they would say that they would prefer to keep their tails? Just a thought...

I don't know. That would be a question to ask those who made that point, not me. I don't share that view.

Originally Posted by kezza

I know this topic has been discussed on here no end of times..and it is a topic i'm very passionate about..these threads do tend to get heated sometimes..so I hope we can all keep this one at an adult level and be kind to each other and respectful of each others views on this subject

Of course. We are all passionate about issues regarding these little doggies, otherwise we wouldn't be here. I find that those of you who live in Europe where it is banned are often the most passionate about it, which is fine until it comes to insulting "us" here where it is allowed. (NOT referring to you--you have not done that at all, but it happens frequently.) Maybe those who live where it has been banned for sometime have become so used to it that anything outside of what you've come to know as "the norm" just seems wrong. The same line of logic is the case for those of us who are not prohibited from making that choice. Just food for thought.

[phfgkl]

I think circumcising boys is the right thing to do. We had a real good friend that was in his 70's when he had to be circumsized, then it really hurts. This is why they do it when they're just a couple days old, my oldest son never cried when they circumsised him and personally, I think they look a lot better when its been done

[yorkieK9trainer]

I promised my Black Russian bitch "Trinity" (docked), that when she Ch.'s, she can get a 10 carat diamond earring put in her left ear (where the ear meets the skull).


Since it was brought up.........

[amandawash]

I can only speak for myself but I certainly will only purchase a yorkie that is bred to AKC standard. That means tails docked.

I know lots of people don't care about breed standard, the op is purchasing a dog that isn't registered, which is fine. In that case you cannot expect the dog to be breed standard so I guess tail docking wouldn't apply. As a disclaimer, yes, I do know many dogs ARE registered and are nothing close to standard, and I do know the opposite can apply as well.

As far as docking goes, as long as it's AKC standard, it will be done, and should be.

[Koran]

I want to be yorkieK9trainers dog! 10 KT! LOL

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by yorkieK9trainer

I promised my Black Russian bitch "Trinity" (docked), that when she Ch.'s, she can get a 10 carat diamond earring put in her left ear (where the ear meets the skull).

LOL...10 carats?