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Old 11-23-2008, 09:18 AM   #121
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I really think it's rude for anyone to advise someone to not have kids. I had to raise my little sisters from the age of 6 up until the day my mom died. I know how much work kids are and I know how much patience they take and I find it SEVERELY offensive when someone tells me not to have kids. I also babysit my friends two year old when her husband gets a 24 hour watch. I'm not this easily frustrated with kids as I am with my dog. With kids i have this instinct in knowing what they are about to get into. With kids you know what they can and cannot get into.. there are no surprises really if you think ahead of time. i had no clue my dog could jump the way he can because he NEVER does it when i'm home or if he tries he acts like he can't do it..my friend was amazed at how well i did with her son. he didn't ask for junk food once instead I had him eating healthy the entire night, and he ate grapes which apparantly he hates according to his mom.yet he laid on the floor with me and munched on them. Kids are completely different then pets. my dog acts like a mindless two year old at times but trust me a real two year old is different then a dog acting to similarities.and if I had a two year oldI would of had a mattress protector on the bed but since it was just going to be ME on the bed and I knew I wasn't going to drink on the bed or pee on it I didn't have to worry about it and I was going to get one with this paycheck but pushed it back alittle. Plus a little kid could not climb up on this bed at all. I'm still amazed teddy could jump on it! I have no clue how he does it I tested him the first day I got it to see if he could jump up on it and it appeared that he couldn't.I'm sorry I care about wher emy dogs go potty and I've learned how to get pee out of anything. I take VERY VERY VERY good care of my things. I care about my dogs mistakes and I work to fix them. I would never want my carpet smelling like urine. which is why I semi obsessed ove rmy hallway because it smelled like it and I managed to get it out in a day. I'll do the same with stains when I get kids.. only I'll expect stains. With kids you expect certain things to happen. You know what is going to happen for sure. Thats why they are making more no mess toys out there and making paint that is easily washable (aka crayons). I'm just lucky enough to be the master of stains. I've managed to get dried blue koolaid out of creme colored carpet. My husband is a klutz so having him around is kind of like having the mess of a two year old.I know with a kid you wouldn't let them draw all over the walls and be like hmm my fault and then clean it off and go on with your day. You'd tell them it was wrong and have them help you clean it off... Now teddy can't help me clean up his messes but I can show what he did and tell him bad to it which ironically enough he KNOWS when he does someting bad because I'll come home and he'll show me, put his head down and lay down. I don't mind if he finds paper and chews on it but it looks like I may have to go back to rewarding him for peeing outside so he understands thats the place to go again.But don't insult my ability to be a parent again.
Dealing with a child is 100 times more difficult than dealing with a small dog.* There is a limit to what a dog can reach and what they can get into.* With a child, there is no limit.* I raised 6 kids and have 14 gradkids, and if a kid can do it, mine have done it.They can open cupboard doors and refrigerator doors and bedroom doors and bathroom doors and closet doors.* They can climb onto counter tops.* They pop keys off of your laptop keyboard and lose them, they use a scissors and cut things they get juice out of the refrigerator and spill it. they get into makeup and tampons and toilet paper and cereal and flour.* you name it they can get into it.*They also pee on things and poop on things and vomit on things and bleed all over our $200 dollar dress.** They break things and flush your cell phone down the toilet down the toilet, then they flush it until it overflows and leaks through the floor and ruins your basement ceiling and you have to call a plumber to fix the toilet.* They put rubber balls in the oven and it melts all over and you have to buy a new stove.* They put crayons in their pockets and it melts all over your dryer

A little pee on a mattress.* that is a very minor issue, I can sleep with that.
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Old 11-23-2008, 09:23 AM   #122
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Wow this is still going on here!! Megan sweetie, I'm sorry but I do believe dogs can be very upset over things. the first time I stayed over at Sheryl and Eric's Taffy saw the suit cases and peed on their bed. She wanted to go since she always went to Fl. with them. Teddy could have been marking his territory, to say 'this is mine'. I thought the OP might be young but not as young as 21. Let's all think of the mistakes we made when we were that young. It's called learning from your mistakes and I'm sure she will. She has alot on her plate right now and I admire her for asking for our opinions and help.
I would say the dog did not pee becaue it was mad. It peed because it was upset, nervous and anxious and couldn't control it.
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* They put rubber balls in the oven and it melts all over and you have to buy a new stove.*
i'd love to hear this story....at least Edgar just slobbers all over his!!
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I've read in other posts about crate size having something to do with them peeing in it. How big is your crate? He is still pretty young and just staying consistant with him and working on the problems should help things get better in time. For now all you can do you is just keep your eyes peeled untill he can be trusted. I had to rip up all of my carpet (it needed to go anyway after almost 22 years of pets and kids). I will not do carpet anymore except for in the bedrooms. Any bedroom that has new carpet in it I keep the door closed. It really should get better after awhile with all your hard work and consistancy. I feel bad for you that your feeling so frustrated. This is a place to come and vent and look for helpful suggestions. I know how it is to feel frustrated and then after you cool down you look at that little face and melt all over again!!
Good luck and hope it improves very soon for you.
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Oh I was also going to suggest a bully stick or something a little more exciting to them then rawhide. I think they get bored with rawhide a little easier. Another thing I do when I've gone out to run errands and leave Roxie here alone is to make sure I bring her something (even if it's only a dollar). She gets so excited and that way she knows I didn't just go off and forget about her all day. Maybe I'm crazy thinking it makes her feel better, but it makes me feel better and she seems pretty happy about it.
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I don't see where anyone was being rude... I mean there may have been a couple posts, but I think everyone for the most part is just being honest.
One minute you say no one was being rude the next you say there may have been a couple of posts? Just because it's "only one or two posts" doesn't make it right.
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One minute you say no one was being rude the next you say there may have been a couple of posts? Just because it's "only one or two posts" doesn't make it right.
I never said it made it right, but out of the 8 pages there were at the time, if there were only a couple then why group everyone together and tell everyone not to be rude? I think that's rude... if you want to point out the couple that were rude, then go ahead, but don't group everyone together and lecture us on what is rude and not and about money and all that.
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As for me, I wasn't being rude, I was being honest..to want to get rid of a dog because it peed on a $700 mattress, to me is ridiculous. As I said, mine ruined a $3500 leather sectional, but, did I get mad?? Yeah, I did, at myself, for allwoing it to happen. dogs are like kids, they take a lot of time, and a lot of patience. I have 6 dogs, and believe me, I've had plenty of things destroyed, but, these dogs give me more joy and love than most humans! When I've had a bad day, they're the ones that come up to me and give me a kiss, all they want from their human companions is time, love and to be fed, and then they're happy! Too bad people couldn't be more like dogs! I could never figure out until the last few days, why Mom and Dad always said next time around, they were raising dogs instead of kids, now, I know why..
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I never said it made it right, but out of the 8 pages there were at the time, if there were only a couple then why group everyone together and tell everyone not to be rude? I think that's rude... if you want to point out the couple that were rude, then go ahead, but don't group everyone together and lecture us on what is rude and not and about money and all that.
I wasn't grouping everyone. Obviously, if I said that the ones being rude needed to get off their thrones then I meant the ones being rude. I apologize for not putting the quote button to good use but I'm lazy. I figured, with how I worded things, that anyone who cared would know who I was talking about.

Keywords from my initial response: "Half of you keep going on and on about the SAME THING...".

Please stop trying to argue with me on someone's thread.

By the way, I lectured? What are you doing to me? Now, instead of giving the OP a break, GIVE ME ONE.
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i'd love to hear this story....at least Edgar just slobbers all over his!!
Went to preheat the oven. Smoke started rolling out of the oven, one of the kids had put a rubber ball in there, it had melted all over the element. Had to replace the stove. At the time I had a two year old and a three year old. never did find out who did it.

Kids can be very expensive.
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As for me, I wasn't being rude, I was being honest..to want to get rid of a dog because it peed on a $700 mattress, to me is ridiculous. As I said, mine ruined a $3500 leather sectional, but, did I get mad?? Yeah, I did, at myself, for allwoing it to happen. dogs are like kids, they take a lot of time, and a lot of patience. I have 6 dogs, and believe me, I've had plenty of things destroyed, but, these dogs give me more joy and love than most humans! When I've had a bad day, they're the ones that come up to me and give me a kiss, all they want from their human companions is time, love and to be fed, and then they're happy! Too bad people couldn't be more like dogs! I could never figure out until the last few days, why Mom and Dad always said next time around, they were raising dogs instead of kids, now, I know why..
yes or repair a basement ceiling, cell phone and the cost of the plumber.

As I said a mattress is minor. I can sleep- with that. and kids pee on mattresses too.
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yes or repair a basement ceiling, cell phone and the cost of the plumber.

As I said a mattress is minor. I can sleep- with that. and kids pee on mattresses too.
Oh yes, have had the kids pee on the mattresses, more than one time..
Never have dealt with the cell phone or basement, since down south most people don't have basements, and luckily, the g-kids never have gotten ahold of hubbys cell phone, although, now, the 2 of them are old enough to know better, but, we have another one on the way..Now, my 6 year old g-daughter has done her share of "drawings" on her bedroom wall. And, my daughter, when she was about 3 pulled the wall paper off my in-laws bathroom wall, and they had already sold their house, so had to re-do wallpapering before they moved...
Our new mattress just cost us $2500, the only ones that go in the bedroom are him and me..
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I've just kinda scanned through this thread and don't know if this has been suggested, but maybe he needs more exercise. Try to take him for a walk a couple times a day. Read a book about training, and you will find that if you take the time, it is not only fun but it is rewarding to watch your dog learn. I've had many problems with Jackson's behavior, but I stick it out and be consistent and never give up. His behavior has improved drastically. It's hard work and it takes time, but I think we owe it to our dogs to train them well so that they know how to behave. After all, look at all the unconditional love we get in return. You have to be patient and consistent. You have to WANT for it to work. It really is very rewarding and fun, and a great way to bond with your dog.

From what I can tell, there have been pages and pages of suggestions and encouraging words, but you seem to find a reason why each suggestion won't work. You have to ask yourself, "can I really handle this responsibility"?
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As for me, I wasn't being rude, I was being honest..to want to get rid of a dog because it peed on a $700 mattress, to me is ridiculous.
I agree. My 1200 $ matress was peed on and I cleaned it... Chachi and the others are way too important to me for that.
And honestly, I don't see anyone being rude---I think that she was referring to me---but that doesn't matter to me. I tried to help find solutions to the problem and I tried to give her insight into my situation (being that I'm young, broke, and have been under a lot of stress and I managed to make it work and so can she). Now...I'm going to go make Ramen Noodles for lunch... )
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Dogs have found new homes for much less than ruining a $700 mattress. There are many people on YT who are attached to their dogs like they are their children, but they are dogs, and although mine is my baby, there are also many people (including two of my co-workers) who think I am crazy and consider mine just a dog. One even gave away a Maltese puppy because she "didn't have time for it" and just didn't like having a dog. So, everyone is different and feels frustration in a different way. Of course you wouldn't get rid of your child for ruining a piece of furniture, but I am willing to bet that there are millions of people who would if a dog did the same thing.
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