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Old 11-23-2008, 03:21 PM   #151
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I just want to say that I feel your pain, I am young also (22) and I bought a brand new leather suede couch and new bedroom sets for myself AND my daughter. I've had my dog for a little over a month now and I can tell you that she has peed on my daughters mattress AND my couch!! As mad as I was and had to scrub it clean, it's just something you have to deal with when you get a dog, especially a puppy, you have to expect the worse and I can tell you also that I raised my little brothers too pretty much but that is NOTHING like having your own, I have a daughter now and let me tell you puppies and kids are so much alike, everyone is right here, I have had my daughter pee my bed, couch and her bed also, it isn't fun, and it is very dissapointing since we save and try to get nice things, mine are all a year old now and do not look as nice as they did, but that is what I get for getting very expensive things with a child and in your situation a dog. I'd say bleach the spot, let it dry and get a mattress protector if your scared about your mattress and you just have to be more cautious and think a little ahead if your going to have a dog. He is still young, I had to have my dog stay in the kitchen for about a week and now thats the only place she will go to the bathroom is in there. You can't give up, I know you want too, I would too but this is something that you should of thought about BEFORE getting a pup. Hang in there!
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I agree with everyone here. Many of us may have gone through what you have gonethrough and more, simply because many of us are older. HOWEVER, each of us have our personal threshold. You sound like you have reached that threshold. It doesn't sound like you can hear what people are saying without it hitting you personally. Really, I do understand. I'm sure many of us do. I am trained for over 35 years on working with emotionally disturbed children. Dogs are truly not too far off in basal behaviors.
10 years ago, I had a very large dog I rescued from a dog pound. ( I know, it's an old term, but that's what it was called) "Bonnie" was a large, purebred hunting dog. I was not a hunter. She looked so sad and was visibly sick. I took her, telling myself she would probably be stunted (lol) in growth because of her being in that pound. I took her, fed her the best food I could buy, trained her in obedience and she seemed great! She grew to be a beautiful, big for a female, German wirehaired pointer. I got praise for how well behaved she was and how beautiful. However, they didn't see what happened when I tried to bring her into the house. She literally ran on the walls. She could not sit anywhere for longer than 3 minutes. She would not eat unless I stood over her. She was fine in our yard, but the neighborhood child, a 22 year old mentally challenged young man, who had the mentality of a 5 year old, would throw things at her constantly and did not get any supervision from his family. This went on for quite some time until I found out. Confronting didn't help. Calls to the local SPCA only helped if they were right there and, I could not leave her in the house because she would freak out. After four years, I did the hardest thing I have ever done. I started calling around to different associations of her breed. After about 3 months I finally was convinced by a counselor to work with the SPCA and they would help me. They would not put her down. I wrote a letter to whomever would be giving her a forever home. I offered to pay for at least 6 months of food for her. I noted that she would come with her own igloo dog house, various leather halters, etc. When it came time to take her to the SPCA, it took me a couple of hours to actually physically take her in. I sat and cried in an office another half hour or so with the counselor. Yes some people just callously drop off pets like they were nothing. But Bonnie was family and she was really hurting too. She wasn't safe in her own back yard and she could not, for whatever the reason was, come into the house. Before the day ended I received a call from the SPCA telling me about a family who came in while I was going through this with Bonnie. They adoped her on the spot. They had another dog who was just lonely and had stopped playing. When Bonnie entered their family, both dogs found themselves in a new and wonderful world. I still think of Bonnie to this day. But I know I did the best thing I could have for her. She is now 14 years old. I used to see her at the dog park with her adopted family. It was the right thing to do and the hardest thing I have ever done.
I now have Sophie, a yorkie I got a year ago. She is the right dog for me. She goes with me everywhere. She is very well trained and means everything to my family, just as Bonnie always will.
Stop beating yourself up. Teddy needs you now more than ever. I believe dogs know us better than we can imagine. There is a wonderful site called Yorkshire Terrier National Rescue, yorkierescue.com. where I believe you can get help. Of course none of us want to separate from our dogs, but sometimes it's the most responsible thing one can do and the most wonderful thing we can give to our dog. You MUST take on the task of being responsible, because Teddy deserves to be happy. You owe yourself and your dog a good life. You can't just dump him off somewhere and I think you are well aware of that or you wouldn't be writing here. Taking care of yourself can help you take care of Teddy. He can be happy, and so can you. STOP beating yourself up. I believe, if we think about it honestly, that anyone of us could be where you are. Take care of yourself. Stay focused on helping your dog and you will end up helping yourself.
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Old 11-23-2008, 05:40 PM   #153
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well there are mattress protectors that are not plastic that soak I was going to buy one from the place I got the mattresses it's 79 dollars and I was going to wait since I thought I would be the only person who ever was on the bed. forgetting my dog can obviously jump like a track star.

my mattress can't be flipped.. it's not flipable i DIDN'T know that until it arrived at my house but it's really really really nice a posturepedic double foamed and even has it on the sides so you don't feel like you're gong to fall off.. it's the nicest thing I've bought in my life and well this past year has been my first real time really on my own away from my parents so having it meant a lot to me and it was the last thing our apartment needed to be considered fully furnished so it's a really big deal to me. and just the idea of me forgetting to close the door or not closing it all the way drives me insane.

I think he needs more outside time.. whenever I would take himout he did well.. he just like to be outside in general. I use to take himover by the leasing office and sit under a tree and play my ds while he laid beside me chewing on a stick and he LOVED IT.

i just hate the cold it messes with my asthma and I'm a very tiny person I get cold so easy. it wouldn't be so bad if darrall was here I'd have him help me walk him and I would just use him as a heater. I'll force myself to walk him in the cold. I need to buy some long johns.
i can understand the frustration, in my first apartment Duke totally ruined the carpet by peeing everywhere. And now I have Lucie who has peed on everything from my bed to clothes.
Have you tried playing fetch or anything inside? Whenever I don't feel like taking Duke out I throw his toys around inside and let him chase after them, and when I go on short trips I put them in the car with me just so they don't feel like I am constantly leaving them.
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Wow, there are lots of stories in here!

Sugar, you have to do what is best for you. If you can't have peace of mind with this little furboy around now, then find him a good home and let him go.

It's your life - no one else can live it for you even though we're all good at giving advice. I wish you well whatever your decision.
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I have never thought of getting rid of any of mine. Threatening them to make "Yorkie stew" out of them, or making them "Live in the Wild" (my backyard...always makes me feel better.

I just thought of this post. Cooper went outside and took a poop, then came back inside the house, and used my BRAND NEW fluffy white chenille bath rug ($60) as toliet paper. I started to take pics, but decided it would be too nasty. I told him good thinking, for not wiping his butt on my sofa or carpet, like he has before.

The rug is in the washer, and all the fluff is now stuck to the insides of the washer. A damp, freshly bathed Cooper is curled up next to me now---this is a day in OUR lives...
That sounds a lot like my household! My 9 and a half month old Yorkie (Huckleberry) has now taught our newest (Isabeau, our three month old Yorkie) his little tricks. I found both of them running out from underneath my bed. I know that's not a good sign....so, I get on my hands and knees and look. Of course it's too dark so then I have to go in search of a flashlight that has no batteries in it once I do find it. Again, another search...out to the garage I go to find new batteries. Once I do this, I go back to my bedroom with flashlight in hand....lo and behold....there's two seperate piles of poo under there. And not right where I can reach it, oh nooooooooooo, Huck and Isabeau went to the very top part of the bed. Here's the most glamorous part...I have to lay completely flat and scrunch myself allllllllll the way under, only to remember that I did not bring along any paper to dispose of the evidence. UGH!!!!! Long story short, dogs are not simple little creatures that just sit and stare at you all day...they are work, but I personally think they are very much worth it!

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I agree with everyone here. Many of us may have gone through what you have gonethrough and more, simply because many of us are older. HOWEVER, each of us have our personal threshold. You sound like you have reached that threshold. It doesn't sound like you can hear what people are saying without it hitting you personally. Really, I do understand. I'm sure many of us do. I am trained for over 35 years on working with emotionally disturbed children. Dogs are truly not too far off in basal behaviors.
10 years ago, I had a very large dog I rescued from a dog pound. ( I know, it's an old term, but that's what it was called) "Bonnie" was a large, purebred hunting dog. I was not a hunter. She looked so sad and was visibly sick. I took her, telling myself she would probably be stunted (lol) in growth because of her being in that pound. I took her, fed her the best food I could buy, trained her in obedience and she seemed great! She grew to be a beautiful, big for a female, German wirehaired pointer. I got praise for how well behaved she was and how beautiful. However, they didn't see what happened when I tried to bring her into the house. She literally ran on the walls. She could not sit anywhere for longer than 3 minutes. She would not eat unless I stood over her. She was fine in our yard, but the neighborhood child, a 22 year old mentally challenged young man, who had the mentality of a 5 year old, would throw things at her constantly and did not get any supervision from his family. This went on for quite some time until I found out. Confronting didn't help. Calls to the local SPCA only helped if they were right there and, I could not leave her in the house because she would freak out. After four years, I did the hardest thing I have ever done. I started calling around to different associations of her breed. After about 3 months I finally was convinced by a counselor to work with the SPCA and they would help me. They would not put her down. I wrote a letter to whomever would be giving her a forever home. I offered to pay for at least 6 months of food for her. I noted that she would come with her own igloo dog house, various leather halters, etc. When it came time to take her to the SPCA, it took me a couple of hours to actually physically take her in. I sat and cried in an office another half hour or so with the counselor. Yes some people just callously drop off pets like they were nothing. But Bonnie was family and she was really hurting too. She wasn't safe in her own back yard and she could not, for whatever the reason was, come into the house. Before the day ended I received a call from the SPCA telling me about a family who came in while I was going through this with Bonnie. They adoped her on the spot. They had another dog who was just lonely and had stopped playing. When Bonnie entered their family, both dogs found themselves in a new and wonderful world. I still think of Bonnie to this day. But I know I did the best thing I could have for her. She is now 14 years old. I used to see her at the dog park with her adopted family. It was the right thing to do and the hardest thing I have ever done.
I now have Sophie, a yorkie I got a year ago. She is the right dog for me. She goes with me everywhere. She is very well trained and means everything to my family, just as Bonnie always will.
Stop beating yourself up. Teddy needs you now more than ever. I believe dogs know us better than we can imagine. There is a wonderful site called Yorkshire Terrier National Rescue, yorkierescue.com. where I believe you can get help. Of course none of us want to separate from our dogs, but sometimes it's the most responsible thing one can do and the most wonderful thing we can give to our dog. You MUST take on the task of being responsible, because Teddy deserves to be happy. You owe yourself and your dog a good life. You can't just dump him off somewhere and I think you are well aware of that or you wouldn't be writing here. Taking care of yourself can help you take care of Teddy. He can be happy, and so can you. STOP beating yourself up. I believe, if we think about it honestly, that anyone of us could be where you are. Take care of yourself. Stay focused on helping your dog and you will end up helping yourself.



Excellent Post...I too had to rehome a dog prior to getting my Yorkie. Broke my heart to do so, but I knew then and know now that it was the best decision for me and my dog. You really need to place a dog in the environment that will be best for it and if it means rehoming the dog that is the most loving thing you can do. But please use a rescue group, not a dog shelter that is already overcrowded. Petfinders.com provides a listing of rescue groups throughout the us. I went through petfinders, they have volunteers that will come and pick the dog up from you, they keep the dogs in foster homes and screen carefully to determine who to allow to adopt the dog.
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mattiematt and your posts couldn't have been more helpful.
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I really think it's rude for anyone to advise someone to not have kids. I had to raise my little sisters from the age of 6 up until the day my mom died. I know how much work kids are and I know how much patience they take and I find it SEVERELY offensive when someone tells me not to have kids. I also babysit my friends two year old when her husband gets a 24 hour watch. I'm not this easily frustrated with kids as I am with my dog. With kids i have this instinct in knowing what they are about to get into. With kids you know what they can and cannot get into.. there are no surprises really if you think ahead of time. i had no clue my dog could jump the way he can because he NEVER does it when i'm home or if he tries he acts like he can't do it..

my friend was amazed at how well i did with her son. he didn't ask for junk food once instead I had him eating healthy the entire night, and he ate grapes which apparantly he hates according to his mom.yet he laid on the floor with me and munched on them. Kids are completely different then pets. my dog acts like a mindless two year old at times but trust me a real two year old is different then a dog acting to similarities.

and if I had a two year oldI would of had a mattress protector on the bed but since it was just going to be ME on the bed and I knew I wasn't going to drink on the bed or pee on it I didn't have to worry about it and I was going to get one with this paycheck but pushed it back alittle. Plus a little kid could not climb up on this bed at all. I'm still amazed teddy could jump on it! I have no clue how he does it I tested him the first day I got it to see if he could jump up on it and it appeared that he couldn't.

I'm sorry I care about wher emy dogs go potty and I've learned how to get pee out of anything. I take VERY VERY VERY good care of my things. I care about my dogs mistakes and I work to fix them. I would never want my carpet smelling like urine. which is why I semi obsessed ove rmy hallway because it smelled like it and I managed to get it out in a day. I'll do the same with stains when I get kids.. only I'll expect stains. With kids you expect certain things to happen. You know what is going to happen for sure. Thats why they are making more no mess toys out there and making paint that is easily washable (aka crayons). I'm just lucky enough to be the master of stains. I've managed to get dried blue koolaid out of creme colored carpet. My husband is a klutz so having him around is kind of like having the mess of a two year old.

I know with a kid you wouldn't let them draw all over the walls and be like hmm my fault and then clean it off and go on with your day. You'd tell them it was wrong and have them help you clean it off... Now teddy can't help me clean up his messes but I can show what he did and tell him bad to it which ironically enough he KNOWS when he does someting bad because I'll come home and he'll show me, put his head down and lay down. I don't mind if he finds paper and chews on it but it looks like I may have to go back to rewarding him for peeing outside so he understands thats the place to go again.

But don't insult my ability to be a parent again.







It is your fault if you let your child color all over the walls because you should have been watching them!!! You don't leave young kids home alone to tear up the house. You hire a babysitter. Just like your friend has hired you to watch her son. I am the oldest of 6 kids and anytime there was any damage in our house it was because I wasn't watching my siblings the way I should have.

Hence, you shouldn't leave your dog out to run a circus when you aren't home. Why would anyone do this with a 1yr old or a known dog whom has behavior problems?? They could chew electrical wires and get electrocuted, choke on something, and many other things. You should put him in a cage when you are not home. A strong one that he cannot chew through.

I am 27 and when I bought my Mia Amore, I was 24. Most breeders gave me such a hard time. They didn't want to sell a puppy to me even though I had my OWN nice house fenced yard and all, a good job, and no kids. Now, I understand why they didn't want to sell me a pup. The reason, 21 year olds want a dog and don't understand all the work that is involved. They want to dress them up and show them off. Thing is my baby has all her meds & shots, gets her teeth cleaned every 3 months, and is taken care of better than anyone else's dog or child that I know and always has been. I am always here for her because I don't have to work now that I am married either. What I am saying is I think it's a shame that some bad pet owners ruin it for others. I think you should step up and care for your pet.


Furthermore, Yorkie's are a lot of work and it sounds like you didn't research this before you bought one. Sorry for the loss of your mother.

Good Luck hun!! You can do it.
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I think that everything she said was valid--no reason to be sarcastic.
She's responsible---not perfect.
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Please don't think I am being judgemental. Puppies are a lot of work. They pee on things, chew on things, and just generally get into trouble like all babies. I have found that with my two baby yorkies (which are a new breed for me) is that there is no way to keep them off the furniture.. my husband thinks they are related to the mountain goat, LOL. That being said if you are determined to keep him there are ways "around" these little guys. One thing I suggest is that you put the small crate into a larger exercise pen with a potty pad, food, water and toys for when you are not home and cannot supervise. I do not leave any sqeaker toys, rope toys, rawhide, or collars on them when they are in the pen. That has been my life saver. At least they are safe from harm there and cannot destroy anything. I also leave on the radio for them which they seem to like. When I am home I try to tire them out as much as possible. Also, I put a waterproof mattress pad on my bed once I realized they will pee on the bed. I guess a king size bed is like a room to them. So they think they can sleep at one end and pee on the other. I think once you can get past the puppyhood you will be glad you kept your baby because they are such good company and so affectionate.
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