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cesar49 08-27-2008 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2206968)
Oops, my bad. I thought I had rememberd seeing that on your site. Then went to check it out and it says:
"morkipoos due 9/08
available for adoption
2008 christmas puppies"

LOL...you might want to update that then...:p Some people (like me!) are easily confused.
actually..i havent been to the web site in weeks.. i started one with godaddy
so its very amatuer.. im sure you are the only visitor i have had
notice i did not call them morkiepoobiewers:eek:
i thought sadie was pregnant.. but thanks for reminding me to change that to spring of 2009 for the morkipoos:cool:
i dont know too many morkipoos..
but hoping for them someday...:p
youre pretty good with your detective work...:)
thanks for letting me confuse you a little:)

BamaFan121s 08-27-2008 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2206997)
actually..i havent been to the web site in weeks.. i started one with godaddy
Quote:
Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2206935)
morkiepoobiewer.com
Alright, now make up your mind...lol.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2206997)
thanks for letting me confuse you a little:)
It's not that hard to do most days.:(

Toby'sMama 08-27-2008 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2206893)
I'm not sure why I have all of a sudden come under attack by the Biewer people. I have gone on record time after time for defending the biewers and partis. But right now I am confused over all of the different Biewer clubs and the contradictory statements on the various club websites.

I hope that you are able to accomplish your mission to get them recognized, just as we parti breeders would like to have ours recognized. The Biewers at least have recognition in Germany. But the conflicting stories are very confusing.
Jeannie, I just wanted to clarify that the paragraph I highlighted, was to say that you hit the nail on the head as to what some will do to get AKC recognition. I feel there is a lot of work to be done with the Biewers still, and agree that it's confusing as all get out when people are trying to find out about the breed. When standards and websites get changed like underwear, it definitely gets confusing.

I commend you for your knowledge and willingness to share. Your posts always show that you have researched and studied, and I always enjoy reading your contributions!

BamaFan121s 08-27-2008 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2206893)
I'm not sure why I have all of a sudden come under attack by the Biewer people. I have gone on record time after time for defending the biewers and partis. But right now I am confused over all of the different Biewer clubs and the contradictory statements on the various club websites.
Hey hey now...specify...not ALL of the Biewer people. ;)

cesar49 08-27-2008 09:12 PM
trying to fix my website
 
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2207019)
Alright, now make up your mind...lol.



It's not that hard to do most days.:(

i have to plead temporary insanity after gus gus incident:animal-pa
the godaddy website is not loading right
now that is confusing..
websight tonight..


too slow... gotta fix the gus info.. poor gus gus:aimeeyork

my2boyz 08-28-2008 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2206916)
breeding splitters is a result of lots of people hoping for biewers:eek:
Not true actually, splitters are bred for specific reasons. A splitter is created by breeding a Biewer and a Yorkie and a splitter is bred to expand on the blood lines, bring in better traits like say...smaller ears, rich colors and a silkier coat. A splitter is a Biewer x Yorkie...anyone with anything other than that who calls it a splitter is just trying to cash in on the Biewer name.

JeanieK 08-28-2008 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2206935)
i wish:)
but, no puppies due:animal-pa
i have a splitter:eek: sammy is my future stud..
and a morkie poo..sadie ... but no one is pregnant.. maybe springtime..
morkiepoobiewer.com
plus 2 yorkiepoos, and a yorkie.
no secrets here:)
splitter is a new term for me do you mean a carrier?

JeanieK 08-28-2008 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2206968)
Oops, my bad. I thought I had rememberd seeing that on your site. Then went to check it out and it says:
"morkipoos due 9/08
available for adoption
2008 christmas puppies"

LOL...you might want to update that then...:p Some people (like me!) are easily confused.
A maltese yorkie poodle mixe with a biewer?

I'd love to see one.

JeanieK 08-28-2008 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Toby'sMama (Post 2207030)
Jeannie, I just wanted to clarify that the paragraph I highlighted, was to say that you hit the nail on the head as to what some will do to get AKC recognition. I feel there is a lot of work to be done with the Biewers still, and agree that it's confusing as all get out when people are trying to find out about the breed. When standards and websites get changed like underwear, it definitely gets confusing.

I commend you for your knowledge and willingness to share. Your posts always show that you have researched and studied, and I always enjoy reading your contributions!
Thank you. I must say there are a few people here that have forced me to keep on my toes, and I thank them for that.

Sorry for getting on the defensive. After that last controversial thread I'm a little shell shocked. LOL :p

but I have also noticed that others have gained from the threads and are now more knowledgeable, so evidently I'm not the only one who is doing their homework.

We have a long way to go with the partis, just don't want to have to trip over the mess left behind by the Biewer people. and that is not an attack on anyone, just referring to all the confusion caused by the different theories being thrown around.

Pick your story and stick to it. We all no that at this point that there is no proof of anything regarding the history of the parti colored yorkies. But if you are trying to prove a point, you can't keep changing sides.

bchgirl 08-28-2008 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2207332)
splitter is a new term for me do you mean a carrier?

Splitter is the term used when it's a breeding between a biewer and a yorkie.
while carrier is the word used for puppies from a parti and standard color breeding.

JeanieK 08-28-2008 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by my2boyz (Post 2207219)
Not true actually, splitters are bred for specific reasons. A splitter is created by breeding a Biewer and a Yorkie and a splitter is bred to expand on the blood lines, bring in better traits like say...smaller ears, rich colors and a silkier coat. A splitter is a Biewer x Yorkie...anyone with anything other than that who calls it a splitter is just trying to cash in on the Biewer name.
Ok now I am even more confused.

Since a biewer has been established as a breed of their own, isn't breeding a "splitter" producing a mixed breed?

I now reside in the State of Confusion with Bamafan.

please explain.

JeanieK 08-28-2008 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2207350)
Thank you. I must say there are a few people here that have forced me to keep on my toes, and I thank them for that.

Sorry for getting on the defensive. After that last controversial thread I'm a little shell shocked. LOL :p

but I have also noticed that others have gained from the threads and are now more knowledgeable, so evidently I'm not the only one who is doing their homework.

We have a long way to go with the partis, just don't want to have to trip over the mess left behind by the Biewer people. and that is not an attack on anyone, just referring to all the confusion caused by the different theories being thrown around.

Pick your story and stick to it. We all no that at this point that there is no proof of anything regarding the history of the parti colored yorkies. But if you are trying to prove a point, you can't keep changing sides.
sorry that should read know

bchgirl 08-28-2008 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2207368)
Ok now I am even more confused.

Since a biewer has been established as a breed of their own, isn't breeding a "splitter" producing a mixed breed?

I now reside in the State of Confusion with Bamafan.

please explain.
That depends on which club you ask...as with many things.

I know BBCI position has always been biewer to biewer breedings and this position has been adopted by the BTCA too.

Several things you've quoted are specifically from the BTCA.

What one club "believes" is not necessarily across the board of ALL biewer clubs...

BamaFan121s 08-28-2008 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2207368)
I now reside in the State of Confusion with Bamafan.
Yay! Company!:coolsmile

Again, this goes back to "who you ask" regarding the dogs having been established as a breed of their own. (AKC has yet to declare that.) They have definately been divided (for lack of better word) from the Yorkies.
Some people only breed Biewer to Biewer. Some still integrate Yorkies (on rare occasions) back into the breed to add back into the color. When a Biewer is bred to a standard colored Yorkie, the litter is referred to as a 'splitter litter'--some may be standard colored, some may have the tri-Biewer coloring. A standard colored offspring is referred to as a 'splitter'--if bred to a standard Yorkie, will produce standard colored offspring, when bred to a Biewer, will create Biewer offspring. (But of course, the theory that the dogs are not the result of Yorkies afterall further complicates that, I suppose.)

I *think* I got that right.

bchgirl 08-28-2008 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2207378)
Yay! Company!:coolsmile

Again, this goes back to "who you ask" regarding the dogs having been established as a breed of their own. (AKC has yet to declare that.) They have definately been divided (for lack of better word) from the Yorkies.
Some people only breed Biewer to Biewer. Some still integrate Yorkies (on rare occasions) back into the breed to add back into the color. When a Biewer is bred to a standard colored Yorkie, the litter is referred to as a 'splitter litter'--some may be standard colored, some may have the tri-Biewer coloring. A standard colored offspring is referred to as a 'splitter'--if bred to a standard Yorkie, will produce standard colored offspring, when bred to a Biewer, will create Biewer offspring. (But of course, the theory that the dogs are not the result of Yorkies afterall further complicates that, I suppose.)

I *think* I got that right.
Laughing...

Breeding a splitter to a biewer does NOT always result in biewer colored puppies. Now we're back to the pie bald gene discussion...this thread has come full circle. :rolleyes: The biewer only has the recessive gene to offer...a splitter has both the recessive and the dominant gene to offer. So you can get biewer colored AND standard coloring within the same litter.


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