Originally Posted by DvlshAngel985 (Post 2206597)

Oh now I get it.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2206594)

Well a Biewer is parti colored, in that it is tri colored. But not all parti colored yorkies are Biewers. The Biewer had the same beginning, coming from two traditional colored yorkies, but mr and mrs Biewer developed their own line and named them after themselves. The German version of the AKC has different standards as far as developing new breeds, and they were able to start their own registered breed, calling them the biewer Yorkshire Terrier.

Now, at least one of the american Biewer clubs is trying to prove that the Biewers were not pure bred yorkies, that they had another breed mixed in. and the reason they are doing that is because the AKC standards for developing a new breed states that you can not just use a color variation of the original breed to develope a new breed.

But it is possible that some of the dogs that are being sold as Biewers today, did in deed have another breed mixed in, and are not from the original Biewer lines.

Originally Posted by Pruett (Post 2206702)

If you are going to state facts, please make sure they are right. I don't remember ever talking with you about what the BTCA, Inc. believes or what information they have received from Mrs. Biewer.

Originally Posted by Pruett (Post 2206702)

The BTCA is not saying there is another breed in the Biewer to get AKC recognition, they are saying it, because it is fact.
I find the people that are having a problem accepting the truth about the Biewer Terriers are people that just starting breeding when they found the Biewer, let alone ever breeding Yorkies.

Originally Posted by Pruett (Post 2206702)

We dropped the Yorkshire from the name, because they are not purebred Yorkshire Terriers. Granted the majority of their makeup is Yorkie, but they are a breed of their own.

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2206594)

Well a Biewer is parti colored, in that it is tri colored. But not all parti colored yorkies are Biewers. The Biewer had the same beginning, coming from two traditional colored yorkies, but mr and mrs Biewer developed their own line and named them after themselves. The German version of the AKC has different standards as far as developing new breeds, and they were able to start their own registered breed, calling them the biewer Yorkshire Terrier.

Now, at least one of the american Biewer clubs is trying to prove that the Biewers were not pure bred yorkies, that they had another breed mixed in. and the reason they are doing that is because the AKC standards for developing a new breed states that you can not just use a color variation of the original breed to develope a new breed.

But it is possible that some of the dogs that are being sold as Biewers today, did in deed have another breed mixed in, and are not from the original Biewer lines.

Originally Posted by Toby'sMama (Post 2206770)

It's too bad that there are those who only want the "glory" and "recognition" at the cost of the breed.:(

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2206769)

I don't see where Jeanie ever mentioned you or the BTCA by name. Furthermore, no one has to have a one on one conversation with you to find out information about where the BTCA stands regarding the issue. There are posts all over this formum and others by BTCA members referring people to the website for information and discussing what that particular clubs beliefs are.



'Facts' for who? Worldwide? Just the dogs within the BTCA? The people who "have a problem accepting the truth" as you phrase it...what does it matter how long they've been involved in the Yorkie/Biewer world? There are so many claims and sides to the story and so much bickering to weed through every time the "B" word is even brought up is it really that shocking that people would be confused and question all the different versions of the Biewer story?



If that is what you or the BTCA feels is the best direction to go, then that is certainly your right and IMO is very commendable for moving forward however you feel is it the best interst of the Biewer. Bottom line is, you and the BTCA are only one piece of the puzzle, only one version and given the relative newness of the introduction to Biewers, it's only natural that people are going to explore all angles and opinions and information. Is that such a bad thing?

Honestly, I just don't get why anytime anyone discusses a way other than "The ---- Club" way (any club really), it becomes a negatively charged issue.

Originally Posted by Toby'sMama (Post 2206770)

Great point, Jeannie. Unfortunately, the dogs are what's in jeopardy with this kind of thinking. By limiting the lines able to be brought in, it will turn these beautiful Biewers from "rare breed" to extinct! I'd rather keep them rare, and wait for AKC recognition -- if it ever goes that far. It's too bad that there are those who only want the "glory" and "recognition" at the cost of the breed.:(

Originally Posted by JeanieK (Post 2206880)

Wow you give me credit for having way too much power. If I can have so much impact on the development of a dog breed, just by thinking, I'd better start thinking more about developing the "Parti Terriers".

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2206895)

C'mon girl...if you have that much power, name them after yourself! :D They could be "The Jeanie Terrier!" :p

Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2206916)

i am sure there are many breeders out there who would like to breed biewers
they ARE very similar to the parti yorkie in appearance..:eek:
the purebred biewers are rare and valuable..
they should be protected
i have no doubt that the popularity will continue
breeding splitters is a result of lots of people hoping for biewers:eek:
just human nature to want the cutest puppies..
i never heard of biewers before january ...
that darn pie bald gene.. everyone wants it:)

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s (Post 2206919)

Don't you have a splitter? And an upcoming litter of MorkiePoo Biewers?

Originally Posted by cesar49 (Post 2206935)

i wish:)
but, no puppies due:animal-pa
i have a splitter:eek: sammy is my future stud..
and a morkie poo..sadie ... but no one is pregnant.. maybe springtime..
morkiepoobiewer.com
plus 2 yorkiepoos, and a yorkie.
no secrets here:)