a breeder of Tiny yorkies

[sylvan]

Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

Absolutely no cool sales pitch...in fact I had a hard time getting her to let me come see them because she didn't want to show them until they were older. I met her on here and I had looked at her mentor's little tiny that went for $8000 and she was expecting the litter. When the litter was born she told me about it and mentioned that there was one girl I might be interested in but then it was me who hounded her with emails for pictures and the like and she never made a sales pitch.

I found another puppy and put a deposit on it before hers were ready to be seen but I had to see hers before I made the final decision on Ava just to be sure so I begged Tanya to let me come up and see them. She finally agreed and I was so impressed but, in the end, Ava was older and ready to go and Tanya had not even thought about price at that point, so I adopted Ava. If I could have had two I would have taken Tanya's baby too...she is adorable and soooo smart!

You will also note that Tanya announced the litter at 10 weeks on here in the "My Yokries" section, but never listed them for sale on here, which is not to say that she won't,but I just think that particular criticism of a fellow UTer is unwarranted and uncalled for. Her puppies sell themselves.

I apologize if my astonishment is offensive. I am just trying to understand what could possibly justify a price of $8,000. Is it the exclusivity? Do people need to be able to brag that they spent that much on a dog so it makes them more special? Does advertising pups here mean that they aren't of value? I guess I'll have to start training my pups to sell themselves since I am apparently doing something wrong.

[diva pup]

Originally Posted by feminvstr

it was a while back Pat mentioned a breeder selling a show potential pup, when the sale was final (buyer walking out the door) the breeder took the bow off the pups head and kept it LMAO!!!

Look no one cares about the puppy pack all the bells and whistles are just that...what they care about is a honest breeder charging an honest dollar for an honestly breed Yorkie!

Well said!!
I should mention my breeder did buy me a couple of glasses of wine

[SoCalyorkiLvr]

Originally Posted by minniemn

I can see it now, loads of people see that you can get a premium "tiny" yorkie and make thousands off the pups... what will happen? people buy these "tinies" or work a few years to bring down their line, and have litter after litter... making lotsa dough.

People who have no business breeding dogs will do this, why? greed. The same reason people do it now.

Sad thing is the "yorkie" is lost in there somewhere, while people try and get the smallest pup they can... oh and if your bitch has a litter of big (aka- standard size) pups, she is sold... while they move on to the next bitch.

There will be interbreeding ect... just like what happened to poodles a few years back.

Sad- it is really sad that these dogs are being used to make a buck... or a lota bucks.

You can defend your friend all you want- but you won't change the minds of those of us who feel what she is doing is wrong... btw- where is this friend of yours? if she is so proud of her lines she worked 5 yrs perfecting, why isn't she here educating us all? All she has done is come one here and talk about how small here pups were... ha- she knows she is price gouging, that is why she wouldn't say how much they are for... maybe she bases the price on your income?

So, from your comments I assume you feel the same about Kimberley's "friend", Yorkmont.

I am sure Tanya is home taking care of her yorkies. She doesn't post on here very often and I have never seen her advertise on here which is not to say that she won't but I would suggest that you call or email her yourself before you start judging her. That is just not fair. You don't even know her. Please call her. You would discover as Kimberley did that you are not "evil" just because you breed for a particular look in a yorkie that most people want.

And btw, there have been breeders breeding for the smaller end of the breed standard for over 30 years. It is nothing new. Ava's breeder has been doing it for 30 years and she can pretty much guarantee the size a puppy will be as an adult becasue she knows her lines that well.

[feminvstr]

Originally Posted by sylvan

I guess I'll have to start training my pups to sell themselves since I am apparently doing something wrong.

LMAO....website now open to train our puppies to sell themself!! entry fee for each pup $1000 guaranteed to get double your money

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by feminvstr

Look no one cares about the puppy pack all the bells and whistles are just that...what they care about is a honest breeder charging a honest dollar for a honestly breed Yorkie!

I agree. When I bought Katie, I did get 1 large bag of doggie dry food, 2 tubes of Nutrical, a few toys, 2 lbs of chicken breast and a little packet of info. Plus, Cathie told me to call her anytime day or night if I had any questions or concerns. And that was all for the price of $1,200. Oh yeah, and I got a crate too but I never used it. It's folded up in my closet. But I had no clue that I was getting any of that stuff. In my opinion, the important thing is, as Feminvstr said, "honest breeder charging a honest dollar for a honestly breed Yorkie"

[SoCalyorkiLvr]

I also think having your breeder close by is a plus. If you have to go out of town and cannot take the dog, they will care for it and they are available at all times if you have questions or concerns or whatever. A good breeder is a valuable resource!

[red98vett]

This isn't about the look of yorkies it's about justifying price gouging - and it seems every thread that you post on Kim you defend people to charging these outrageous prices - It's gone from JEFF DANE to the Wiz of Claws and now this ...Why defend an EIGHT thousand yorkie price tag ? I don't get it ? '

I stress - a buyer can get a GORGEOUS yorkie for a reasonable price - there is no way someone can justify 8 grand unless dealing with the RICH and Senseless.

I mean NO offense to people with money - but as someone said - IF someone WANTS to spend 8 GRAND on their dog - Why not get a 2 THOUSAND dollar yorkie and DONATE the rest to a shelter where their money goes to good use ?

I guess it's a STATUS thing isn't it ? Personally.. if I HAD 8 grand and bought a puppy - I sure wouldn't brag about it to anyone unless I liked being laughed at. If I were a breeder selling at those prices - my clients would ALL be named "Mr. & Mrs. EASY Money"

[SoCalyorkiLvr]

Originally Posted by sylvan

Do people need to be able to brag that they spent that much on a dog so it makes them more special? Does advertising pups here mean that they aren't of value? I guess I'll have to start training my pups to sell themselves since I am apparently doing something wrong.

No...of course not... and I am sorry that any one would interpret what I said to mean that. I was merely responding to Kimberly's assertion that Tanya must have used a "cool sales pitch". She did nothing of the sort and I don't know anyone who advertises what they paid for their dog fo rfear of the exact reaction we are getting on this thread. I expect the general public not to understand paying that much for a dog, but I expected more understanding from the members here who own this breed and know what they do for you and how valuable they are. The negative reaction seems wierd to me.

[hockeymom]

Now let me see if I have this right, I want to make sure after reading all this that I have this all figured out.

You can take a piece of crap, dip it in gold, and sell it to someone for $100,000,000.00. In the end (no pun intended, well, maybe) don’t you still have a piece of crap? Or am I still not getting it?

[feminvstr]

Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

So, from your comments I assume you feel the same about Kimberley's "friend", Yorkmont.
.

Yorkmont is not my friend but she is a very very nice lady anyone wanting to chat about tinies should give her a call. I had a fun and informative conversation with her!!!

Kim Yorkmont purposely breeds for under 3lbs where as Tanya hopes for something under 3 lbs there is the difference! Tanya does clearly stated on that thread she breeds 3-6!

here is one of her quotes well i made a promise i would breed the dogs as to the standard i would like to buy and the looks i would buy and my opionion and mine only is the 3-4 lbs are the greatest size for apts and pets can take them anywhere not to big not to small here is another but she wasnt solicting huh?? I hope someone on YT gets her so we can watch her grow up! and finally her last one Hi i dont understand you statement but i dont have 2 lbs dogs my dogs are 3-6 lbs sometimes i get smaller but very seldom so i dont know where you get this from

but Kim you said she has been perfecting her breeding to get these small ones and she said she doesnt purposely breed them FUNNY HUH!

[StewiesMom]

Originally Posted by red98vett

I mean NO offense to people with money - but as someone said - IF someone WANTS to spend 8 GRAND on their dog - Why not get a 2 THOUSAND dollar yorkie and DONATE the rest to a shelter where their money goes to good use ?

I said that. and I stand by it. So many homeless dogs. No reason to charge so much for a dog and overcharge for below breed standard.

Anyway, I have absolutely nothing else to say as I feel that a lot things are being repeated. In a few decades, the Yorkshire Terrier breed might be completely ruined and I will be a very sad woman.

[feminvstr]

Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

I was merely responding to Kimberly's assertion that Tanya must have used a "cool sales pitch". .

get your quotes right KIM I said no such thing...but I did find that she did post she wanted a YT member to buy her so she could watch her grow so I guess that would be the "soft sell" !!!

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by SoCalyorkiLvr

No...of course not... and I am sorry that any one would interpret what I said to mean that. I was merely responding to Kimberly's assertion that Tanya must have used a "cool sales pitch". She did nothing of the sort and I don't know anyone who advertises what they paid for their dog fo rfear of the exact reaction we are getting on this thread. I expect the general public not to understand paying that much for a dog, but I expected more understanding from the members here who own this breed and know what they do for you and how valuable they are. The negative reaction seems wierd to me.

I can only speak for myself - I love yorkies and I feel that this TREND towards extremely small yorkies... and yes - I call it a TREND...is wrong.

Over-Pricing these extremely small yorkies and gouging people due to their size is wrong. That's not being negative - that's caring about a beautiful breed.

Healthy puppies at a FAIR price is what we all want. I know you love the Trendy looks of the new yorkies Kim....that's fine - go for it - but to say they should be selling up to TEN thousand dollars doesn't sit well with me...

[ReconsMomma]

Originally Posted by StewiesMom

I said that. and I stand by it. So many homeless dogs. No reason to charge so much for a dog and overcharge for below breed standard.

Anyway, I have absolutely nothing else to say as I feel that a lot things are being repeated. In a few decades, the Yorkshire Terrier breed might be completely ruined and I will be a very sad woman.

Very well said Kristy. I really dont understand why things here turned into a debate as they many times do. My understanding here was that opinions were wanted. So why not just state them and be done?? Why debate each and every damn question reguarding breeding or size or price or whatever?? Sorry but it is a little annoying when most of the threads referring to these things turn into a debate.

[JCarlson2004]

I am leaving work late now - it's 5:45 and I usually leave at 5:30 but I got so caught up w/ this thread. I can't imagine how many pages it will be when I come into work tomorrow - or it may even be closed.

I just want to say that we all should not "argue" because we all love Yorkies or any dog for that matter. So everyone please have a great evening and I'll talk to you tomorrow.