Do you approve of different colored yorkies?

[Nancy1999]

Originally Posted by Hannah3183

I have a black and tan yorkie and I love her no matter what color she's supposed to be. I think people shouldn't be so stuck up about it and just love their dogs how they are .

People are always posting something like this, and I guess you don't understand the debate. No matter which side of the debate you're on, I'm sure they all agree on one thing, it has nothing to do with being "stuck-up." It's a debate on breeding, and which dogs should be bred, not a debate on some puppies are better than others, or some puppies should be loved more. I think all of us agree that we should love our dogs no matter what they look like, some of us just don't think you should breed a dog, just because you love him.

[Nancy1999]

Whoops, double post.

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by Yorkshire Allen

I figured I'd just point out that cafe au laite, and the VERY popular ''red'' color...used to not be recognized in poodles. Also, parti-colored poodles are now recognized by the United Kennel Club. (As well as black and tan, and brindle...)

I have not bred yorkies (yet:P) , but I am feeling sympathy at some attacks towards parti-colored, chocolate, and golden breeders here. What makes them irresponsible, or disrespectful of the breed as a whole? I think we can disagree with each other, but I've not saw one pro-alternate color personally attack a ''traditional'' color person...but I've saw vice-versa I'm new to this forum and I'm already seeing ugliness!

There have been no attacks on this thread. Just a very passionate discussion.

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by Pinehaven

While I do believe that breeding for breed type, conformation, temperament and health are a goal that all should strive for, this is a breed registry and not coat color registry. Many breed registries have multiple coat colors and color combinations in their breeds. Coat color doesn't make their breed any less true to the physical and structural standard just because the dogs are not all the exact same color.

While I applaud those who have extensively researched the early history of the Yorkshire Terrier, much of what their conclusions are based on, are their own opinions and theories because there was little information on the unregistered, non pedigreed founding dogs who were used to begin this breed. Some theories are that the Maltese was used in the breed, others feel they were not. I think what is correct in both thoughts is that terrier type dogs were used to begin this breed. I don't think that anyone can guarantee, that they know what visible or hidden genes were in those terrier type dogs because pedigrees on most were not kept.

The standards were written over 100 years ago, back in the days when an off colored pup in the litter, would be drowned because they were thought to be inferior and unhealthy. We know today, this type of thinking is obsolete and very incorrect; these colors should have a rightful place in the breed, we may not see them in the show ring any time soon but maybe one day we will.

This is a breed registry, but the breed standard has color restrictions. Most breed standards do. So, basically what you are saying is that it is ok to breed a blue and tan Biewer and show it and its ok to breed a non-masked Rott and show it and it would be ok to breed and show a black brindle Labrador also. These are all known colors that have been known to crop up in these breeds and the blue and tan is directly related to the Biewer and is in the gene pool. Do you think that the parent club of these breeds are just going to change the standard for the people that want to breed outside the standard? Why cant I show a blue and tan Biewer? Because the Biewer standard says I cant. Any ETHICAL Biewer breeder does not breed dogs that are not to the written standard. Same as all the other breeds, including the Yorkie. Why do you think its ok to breed outside the Yorkie standard? Thats what I dont understand.

[Yorkshire Allen]

Inferring that someone's breeding ethics aren't good because of color breeding...to me it sounds like an attack, passionate or not.

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by Yorkshire Allen

Inferring that someone's breeding ethics aren't good because of color breeding...to me it sounds like an attack, passionate or not.

To me it sounds like an opinion. As you can tell, many people just don't agree with it--we all have our reasons for feeling one way or the other. I don't think it's an attack on ethics so much as an expressed feeling of just not understanding them. I personally would question the motivations of anyone who breeds them because I have run accross so many people breeding with no goal other than to produce something different that will pull in more money. Does that mean that is the case with everyone? No...some of the parti breeders that have posted in this thread have proven their are exceptions. There are lots of things that have been said here that could be deemed an attack if you choose to interpret them that way.

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by Yorkshire Allen

Inferring that someone's breeding ethics aren't good because of color breeding...to me it sounds like an attack, passionate or not.

Have you ever read any of the by-laws and code of ethics of the parent clubs of any breeds? An ethical breeder is one that breeds to the standard of what ever breed they are breeding.

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by Yorkshire Allen

Inferring that someone's breeding ethics aren't good because of color breeding...to me it sounds like an attack, passionate or not.

sorry, the door bell rang. Anyway, I am not saying JeanieK or Pinehaven or any other off standard breeder are "bad" people. I am sure that they are all nice and probably fun to be around. Most "dog" people are!! We just dont agree on breeding practices. No one is attacking anyone. sorry you are perceiving it like that. If you stay around the dog world long enough, you will develope thick skin.LOL

[yorkiekist]

Originally Posted by BamaFan121s

To me it sounds like an opinion. As you can tell, many people just don't agree with it--we all have our reasons for feeling one way or the other. I don't think it's an attack on ethics so much as an expressed feeling of just not understanding them. I personally would question the motivations of anyone who breeds them because I have run accross so many people breeding with no goal other than to produce something different that will pull in more money. Does that mean that is the case with everyone? No...some of the parti breeders that have posted in this thread have proven their are exceptions. There are lots of things that have been said here that could be deemed an attack if you choose to interpret them that way.

You say things so nicely!

[BamaFan121s]

Originally Posted by yorkiekist

You say things so nicely!

LOL...well I'm glad someone thinks so!

[chachi]

If you stay around the dog world long enough, you will develope thick skin.LOL[/QUOTE]

LOL so true!!!!! Also if you stay on this forum long enough you develop thicker skin. I havent seen any attacks on this thread either

[kat1york]

Originally Posted by Yorkshire Allen

The new colors are gorgeous. No matter if you agree or disagree with them, they are gorgeous!

Yes they r indeed gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!
I wish I could get a multi-colored lil sister for my Jack.
Have to do my research on breeders.
Kat

[oopsmyhalofello]

Even though I totally understand and respect the opinion of breeding to standard, I don't think that all off-color breeders are unethical at all. A good majority of them are striving to get the off-color's recognized.

[mscat]

Here is my opinion... A Yorkie that is not the right colors , to me, should not be considered a Pure bred Yorkie.... A parti colored Yorkie? To me that is a mixed breed, not A pure bred.
A Biewer is a specific breed of dog... It is not called a Biewer Yorkie. I have a hard time accepting off colored Yorkie's true to the breed because they are technically not.
As much as they are beautiful , I feel like they are of a mix breed. .. I am sorry, I do not want to offend anybody.
As for the Black and Tan Yorkie, I understood that a young puppy, ar a dog less the a few years old could still have these colors. When they mature their true adult colors appear. I have not seen an adult dog retain a black and tan coat the rest of it's life... I probably am mistaken though.

[kat1york]

Originally Posted by oopsmyhalofello

Even though I totally understand and respect the opinion of breeding to standard, I don't think that all off-color breeders are unethical at all. A good majority of them are striving to get the off-color's recognized.

Kat