UPDATE!! Neighbors dog attacked Abbey...AGAIN!

[red98vett]

Originally Posted by abbey lee

I do understand what you are saying and if Abbey was injured, I would call. But I am a lover of all dogs, and these dogs were following dog instincts and I don't want to punish the DOGS bc they have an irresponsible OWNER. We do have a leash law, and I did explain that to her and tell her that if i do see them without a leash again, whether anything happens of not, I will contact management. It's a difficult situation any way you look at it...

I agree with this ...if they were vicious you wouldn't have a dog anymore

she needs to NOT hit them for something like this - it only instills fear & it's her fault all the way cause they weren't on a leash -

TALK TO HER - tell her how you feel and about her hitting them and say her dogs HAVE TO BE ON A LEASH or you'll be forced to report it. You can stay friends as long as she gets responsible. It sounds like she felt terrible and she should - it was her fault...but things can be resolved if she does her part and quits letting them run free.

That's what happened to the girls and I while we were on our walk - a pitt OFF LEASH charged us (I grabbed the girls and held them under my chin) & while I wasn't scared - I was waiting for a chuck of my body to be removed by very sharp teeth - but no way was that dog getting my girls

[abbey lee]

Originally Posted by YORKIE_mom_2008

First of all it doesn't sound like an aggression problem exactly. It sounds like her dogs are not properly socialized or disiplined. how old is this girl? These dogs sound as if they could definatly hurt something or someone if this "pinning-down" dominance behaviour isn't stopped. Invite her to yorkietalk! (even though she doesn't have a yorkie she could learn alot)

She's my age, like 22. She is young and probably has a lot of other things going on. Most people my age (who are in college) they get dogs and then they do not have the proper amount of time to spend with them and train them. I don't want Abbey to fear these dogs...it's extra hard bc she has been living there for a couple of years and I recently moved in and all these people have always taken their dogs out with no leash (not just her). So I'm like the new kid on the block with the tiny dog that is demanding leashes when these dogs have not been on leashes for a very long time. But it IS necessary bc even before I had Abbey the dogs would run and jump on ME, which I did not really appreciate.

A lot of people are telling me to complain to management or call animal control, but I feel if I just sit her down, and kindly talk to her, she is more likely to understand and follow through with keeping them on leashes. If I run and tell management she will know it was me and most likely resent me and be less likely to restrain her dogs. Not to mention, she is still my neighbor and before getting outside people involved I would like to try and civily work it out with her one on one.

Thanks for the advice though...

[abbey lee]

Originally Posted by bchgirl

Even in a rental property that allows pets...those pets must NOT be a nuisance to other tenants....at this point she isn't being responsible. I would contact management...and have it documented each and every time.

These dogs are, in fact, living in her apartment ILLEGALLY. At my complex you are allowed 2 animals MAX. She has these 2 large dogs and 2 cats. From speaking with her personally, I also found out she has not paid the pet deposit on any of her pets. If the complex found out she was keeping 4 animals they would force her to get rid of 2 and pay over $1000 in fees for the other ones she kept. They may even evict her. This is also a problem with complaining to management, they would come down on her hard and force her to fork over lots of money. This on top of our already ridiculous rent would no doubt clean her out. While I don't agree with her having the dogs if she is not able to pay the pet deposit, I know how hard it is being a struggling colleghe student. I was lucky enough to have my grandmother help me with my deposit for Abbey.

I also hate my management and the way they handle things. They most likely would not be concerned for my dog but more concerned with collecting money...they are money hungry.

For this reason, I am choosing to keep it between me and her, bc she is more likely to listen to me if I am calm with her. She knows I have the power to get her lots of fines, soooo chances are she won't mess up again and will keep them on leashes.

[YORKIE_mom_2008]

Originally Posted by abbey lee

She's my age, like 22. She is young and probably has a lot of other things going on. Most people my age (who are in college) they get dogs and then they do not have the proper amount of time to spend with them and train them. I don't want Abbey to fear these dogs...it's extra hard bc she has been living there for a couple of years and I recently moved in and all these people have always taken their dogs out with no leash (not just her). So I'm like the new kid on the block with the tiny dog that is demanding leashes when these dogs have not been on leashes for a very long time. But it IS necessary bc even before I had Abbey the dogs would run and jump on ME, which I did not really appreciate.

A lot of people are telling me to complain to management or call animal control, but I feel if I just sit her down, and kindly talk to her, she is more likely to understand and follow through with keeping them on leashes. If I run and tell management she will know it was me and most likely resent me and be less likely to restrain her dogs. Not to mention, she is still my neighbor and before getting outside people involved I would like to try and civily work it out with her one on one.

Thanks for the advice though...

Totally agree and i wasn't suggesting that you go to management as, like you say, she probably has alot on her mind/plate and i think more neighbours should be as nice and understanding as you are. (you should still invite her to yorkietalk)!

[FL Tink]

I am sure the girl was not as upset with her dogs as she was with HERSELF and was just taking it out on the dog. Because it was HER fault not the dog's.
This is the very reason I use a harness and a 6 foot leash. I can have Bella reeled in close to me and pick her up without even bending over.
A 6 foot leash not one that extends out allows for better control. Maybe if you try it you wont have to avoid other dogs all the time, just the bigger ones. So sorry you are having these problems

[Daywalker]

This young lady is not being responsible, she must learn to be a pack leader. The next incident might be a child, for the children and other dogs safety she and her dogs need professional help. TAKE THEM TO SCHOOL!!!!--the next time something happens the incident may be so tragic [ it might not be your dog, but some little kid ] that these dogs might be put down! Tell her they will be happier [if they are trained]and everyone else will be too. She will have to find the time and money----if she wants to be a good neighbor,person,owner and pack leader. --D.W.

[Lula168]

I am so glad to hear Abbey is Ok I was so worried reading this post.

I live in a condo complex as well and it is scary as we have other dogs who live there and some are on leashes some are not. Another annoying thing is all sharing a lawn and how other owners let their dogs poop all over the lawn and everyone gets asked not to bring their dogs out anymore because people don't pick up after themselves!!

But honestly this post has opened my eyes because even though the other dogs seem harmless they can do damage merely because of the size difference.

abbey gets extra treats and kisses tonight

[MyPeanutAbbyGra]

Originally Posted by abbey lee

I do understand what you are saying and if Abbey was injured, I would call. But I am a lover of all dogs, and these dogs were following dog instincts and I don't want to punish the DOGS bc they have an irresponsible OWNER. We do have a leash law, and I did explain that to her and tell her that if i do see them without a leash again, whether anything happens of not, I will contact management. It's a difficult situation any way you look at it...

In my opinion, you are handling the situation the way it should be handled. And it sounds like you've thought in advance about how to not let it happen again

I'm glad that your Abbey wasn't hurt.

[tanksmom]

I feel for little Abbey but I also feel for you. I to am TOO nice alot of the time and its hard to get past that behavor. I hope you can grow from this and be the stronger person for youe puppy AND yourself.

[JCarlson2004]

Originally Posted by mainegirl

Your so much nicer than me.

I would have after this second attack told her she needs to get rid of those dogs and since she "hates" them that shouldn't be difficult, then I'd go to the building management. It's not fair your Babies are at risk all the time.

It's nice that your so kind and level headed

Same here. Thank goodness little Abbey is ok, poor baby.

[Juliealfies mum]

Thankfully Abbey is fine, this the reason Lottie barks at every dog she meets. She was grabbed by another dog and I had to pick her right up and then it happened again with another bigger dog Which ended up scratching the back of my legs as it was trying to get at Lottie.....so she barks at every dog she see's unless she knew them from before and with them she is allright
It has also made Alfie very protective of her

I hope that Abbey will get over this and you too but it is difficult not to worry about them.

[abbey lee]

Originally Posted by Juliealfies mum

Thankfully Abbey is fine, this the reason Lottie barks at every dog she meets. She was grabbed by another dog and I had to pick her right up and then it happened again with another bigger dog Which ended up scratching the back of my legs as it was trying to get at Lottie.....so she barks at every dog she see's unless she knew them from before and with them she is allright
It has also made Alfie very protective of her

I hope that Abbey will get over this and you too but it is difficult not to worry about them.

I think from now on she will be a bit weary of bigger dogs (which may be a good thing). From my experience, even dogs that are kind and gentle may snap and go after a smaller dog. They view them as the see squirels, rats, and other small creatures they like to chase. It is simple dog instinct. Thankfully, she has Nuppy to reassure her that not all dogs are evil.

But you can never be too careful. When I was younger, I had a yorkie named Tasha who was very tiny. She lived with our BIG sheep dog, Jazz for years. And Jazz was always very kind and gentle with her and the sweetest dog you will ever meet. Even when Tasha would get in her face. Well, one night we came home and found Tasha bloody on the back porch. Jazz had bit her and she was dead.

This is a trajic story, but it shows how the kindest of dogs can turn on a little one. And how fragile our little ones are that one snip can kill them...

[Peters]

some people are just irresponsible no matter what size dogs they have any just take it for granted things will be ok im glad your little dogs ok though

[Nuvia]

OMG that is horrible i'm glad both u and ur baby r ok.

[LunasMomma]

That's so scary! I'm glad that Abbey is okay, my goodness Can you report this girl to the management of the apartments? I'm sure that there is a leash law in your area, call the non-emergency police number and ask about that, or animal control. That's just BULL that you can't even walk your dogs without fear

Hugs!!!