Fair warning this is a RANT!

[MyFairLacy]

Originally Posted by mayfateleadyou

1. yes it does cost money. There are some people that breed one or two pairs of dogs to simply improve on the breed and want to produce a few wonderful little babies (I call these hobby breeders) They know what they are doing and want to provide a picture perfect yorkie. Except for showing(which is really not the majority of yorkie owners do) if I bred one litter of 3 it would cost me approximatly the following

$60 for food for eukanuba(may be misspelt) for three months
$400 if a c-section is needed
$200 for vet checks and shots and deworming
$150 dew claws and tail docking (which most breeders do themselves)
$70 for puppy pads for 3 months
$100 if you want to include electricity and water for taking care of the babies
= 980

these are the basics in raising a litter of 3 puppies. Medical prices are based on my vet that I have used since I was 15.

Testing you should do anyways to be a "pet owner" such as testing blood work and diseases just to make sure your baby is healthy to began with.

If I charged $500(which everyone knows is VERY rare) for each puppy I would still come out with a profit of about $500.

There are breeders out there that love the breed want to stay within the standards and raise healthy babies that dont do this as a full time job. It is a matter of finding that breeder. It is possible and all it requires is patience and knowledge.

Do realize I am not dissing on full time breeders which I deeply respect who charge more for the puppies. But not everyone owns 15+ yorkies

You left out health screening the mom and dad. $30-$50 for each physical exam. $100 each for a full blood panel. $80-$100 for a Bile Acid Test. Brucellosis Test (not sure what this costs). Plus the cost of any additional screening a breeder decides to do (thyroid, certifications, etc). And then there is the cost of tail docking, puppy exams, vaccinations, emergency trips. And a c-section might be $400 where you are but it costs most $1000plus for a c-section.

[piptickle]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

I understand where you are coming from, but what if the vet bills all of a sudden come to $5000 or even $10,000? I have a good friend that has spent $14,000 on her dog's vet bills in the past 4 months! He is only 9 months old now. If someone can't afford to pay $1000 for a yorkie, I'm sorry but I do wonder what they'll do if major vet bills arise. Dogs are expensive to own...can be VERY expensive. And yorkies are an expensive breed to buy...if someone can't afford the purchase price of a healthy, well-bred puppy then my advice to them is to continue saving their money until they can. No one should buy a puppy because they found a "cheap one"....price shouldn't dictate which puppy someone buys. Price of a puppy would probably be the last question I would even ask a breeder...just not important to me. I mean, no, I'm not going to pay $5000 for a pet...but $1000-$3000 is worth it for a healthy, well-bred puppy from a reputable breeder. Think about it...you're going to have this dog for at least 15 years...that's only $100-$200 per year of it's life..not much for the love our babies give us.

I had to save to buy my pup approx 1500 US dollars.
I couldn't afford to spends thousands on vets bills but I can afford monthly insurance payments! Thats the whole point of pet insurance! I don't know how it works in the US, but I have life long insurance which means they will continue to pay out for the same illness/injury for as long as needed (the dogs whole life if necessary!) upto a value of approx $15.000 per illness/injury! I pray I will never need to make such a claim but I have peace of mind!

[patty58]

I agree with the op. I could never afford to pay thousands for a yorkie. Murfee cost $500 from a flea market. He was a gift from my son and daughter in law. He has been very healthy and is a beautiful baby. I had him for 3 years before I found YT. I didn't know that maybe we shouldn't have bought him at a flea market. It took me a long time before I got up the
nerve to say anything about where I got him here on YT. I was so afraid of getting slammed. I think there should be yorkies in the price range of the average person who just wants a pet, not to show, just to love.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by magicgenie

If you can find a good Yorkie for $700 you should buy it. I haven't seen any good ones for that in about 15 years.

I think someone on a budget can find a nice yorkie for 700. Most people are looking for pet quality not show

[mayfateleadyou]

Originally Posted by MyFairLacy

You left out health screening the mom and dad. $30-$50 for each physical exam. $100 each for a full blood panel. $80-$100 for a Bile Acid Test. Brucellosis Test (not sure what this costs). Plus the cost of any additional screening a breeder decides to do (thyroid, certifications, etc). And then there is the cost of tail docking, puppy exams, vaccinations, emergency trips. And a c-section might be $400 where you are but it costs most $1000plus for a c-section.

as i said in the pricing health screening bile acids blood work should be done anyways. I am having all done on both my yorkies. Doesnt mean I am going to breed. Which in a long time from here I may start to do because I love the breed and want to improve on it. I do have mentor that has been breeding yorkies for 20+ years and am no rush to start so I am taking my time. I understand the price of yorkies are based on where you live which is probably why you dinf a lot of yorkies for under a 1000 here in AL.

[mayfateleadyou]

Originally Posted by patty58

I agree with the op. I could never afford to pay thousands for a yorkie. Murfee cost $500 from a flea market. He was a gift from my son and daughter in law. He has been very healthy and is a beautiful baby. I had him for 3 years before I found YT. I didn't know that maybe we shouldn't have bought him at a flea market. It took me a long time before I got up the
nerve to say anything about where I got him here on YT. I was so afraid of getting slammed. I think there should be yorkies in the price range of the average person who just wants a pet, not to show, just to love.

Again people afraid to say something on here so as not to get "SLAMMED" seriously people should YT be in such a position to have reputation to rudely insult someone because of niave knowledge and not experinced. Sad is a very sad thing!

[ChantalB]

In Toronto... PJ's (god I hate that store) Sell there Yorkshire $3000-$4000 ($2000 on sale when older).

That is what I call a rip off!!!! They attract people with there monthly payment... but if you haven't paid by 12 months!! oh boy they scam you with 20% interest...

As a breeder myself... I can tell you that breeding is very costly (when you spoil the babies and spend time with them the way I do anyway).

I think the price you sell your puppies at is a personal decision. I sell my dogs starting at $1000 + I think it is fair... but again.. it is a my personal believe. By the way my dogs aren't show dogs.... obviously show/breeding quality should sell for more...

But $3000-$4000 for a dog from puppy mills WTF... I really hate PJ's...and any other pet store that sell dogs other than rescue one.

When they said You Get What You Paid For...

bahhhh...Not always..... that is for sure!!!

[magicgenie]

Originally Posted by chachi

I think someone on a budget can find a nice yorkie for 700. Most people are looking for pet quality not show

You're describing the kind of breeding that has produced unsound Yorkies we're seeing out there today.

[chachi]

Originally Posted by magicgenie

You're describing the kind of breeding that has produced unsound Yorkies we're seeing out there today.

I got my first one for 600 and I dont think hes ugly. I wanted pet quality and thats what I got. I think its really insulting to say all yorkies in that price range are ugly but reading your other posts I can see why you said it

[red98vett]

thank you for saying that. I probably will never be in the position to get another - and if breeders all started doing this - ALOT of people would have to go with another breed.

There are MANY GOOD HOMES OUT THERE THAT don't have 'wealth' and while I'm working for a living now - I still know if I WANTED to - I could get another and be ok with the vet bills etc because I'm saving each time I get a paycheck.

while I'm content with my 2 girls - a little puppy in the future is such a nice thought....but at this time - a dream only....BUT - if all breeders got on the money-wagon & charged outrageous prices - it would be an IMPOSSIBLE dream.

which really sucks.

[JuicyGirl]

Originally Posted by magicgenie

You're describing the kind of breeding that has produced the unsound Yorkies we're seeing out there today.

They may be to you, but not to someone else.

[mayfateleadyou]

No offense the lady that originally bought my stormy paid 600 for her and she is a beautiful pup that is healthy and happy and very energetic

[jfalz73]

I dont often get involved in these kind of threads, but.....that is an UGLY statement (and so untrue!) if i ever heard one!!!!!!!!!!

[MyFairLacy]

I never understand those that publically say how much they spent for their dog because I wouldn't do that. I didn't pay for either one of my yorkies actually...one was a gift and the other was a gift for my sister (although I now have him). But i do know how much both cost. They were both very inexpensive so far as yorkies go. Lacy was found out of the newspaper classifieds. Are they ugly? No. But are they good representations of the breed? No, not at all. They were bred without a second thought to quality and health. Thank God they are healthy, except for their luxating patellas, which luckily don't bother them currently. I feel SO fortunate they haven't had any major health problems considering they came from BYBs. And I love them to death...they are my world..and I wouldn't trade them for anything in the world...they are perfect to me and I love them. But I know my dogs came from backyard breeders, and I know they are poor examples of the breed. There are plenty of yorkies in the Dallas Morning News classifeds for less than $600, but they are from backyard breeders and are poor quality puppies. My next dog will come from a reputable show breeder...it is important to me to have a quality, wonderful example of the breed...on that looks like a yorkie should look, and one that was bred with health in mind. And I know I'll have to pay a good amount for that, and it's worth it to me to buy from a reputable breeder.

[red98vett]

Whoa !!! There comes a time where some things just don't need to be written or said. There's many people who did NOT pay a ton of money (me being one of them) - that I'm sure are pretty offended by that blanket statement.....

Sure they are breeders throwing 2 dogs together - but that has nothing to do with this thread. The thread is about being a little nicer to someone on a budget. GOD - with the soaring economy and the cost of living - it must be SO nice to make so much money off the backs of your dogs...

sorry - but your statement was snobbish and in general - just mean. We all can't have showdogs - and I DO agree there are too many people breeding - but to call these dogs 'ugly and unsound' is just mean. This site is too big for comments like that....