Chocolate Parti Yorkies

[kelkiss5]

Well I defintly take no offence. But isnt it just so interesting the way that our yorkies carry different color genes.

[Brooklynn]

Genetics are interesting

Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

[kelkiss5]

They are indeed, and it is someting I have gotten interested in a lot recently. Gives me an excuse to stay at the computer longer. LOL

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by kelkiss5

They are indeed, and it is someting I have gotten interested in a lot recently. Gives me an excuse to stay at the computer longer. LOL

I need to stay away from the computer, kills my back! LOL...but genetics are interesting and it's something worth studying

[ARCHIE]

I enjoyed reading this thread. I have learned so much from all of you.
It was very interesting. Your Chocolate Party Yorkie is beautiful.

[Pinehaven]

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I have a black yorkie and I showed her at one time but that was before I learned it was not correct to be in the show ring....Puppies are born black and tan and can be shown as puppies what the DQ is for is for an adult yorkie but you have to know how and when your dogs lines change colors and no it's not specified with an age but read the standard again and it will say puppies are ok to put in the show ring because of course they haven't turned blue yet.

Just throwing out some more thoughts, I've tried to simplify the genetic stuff ....

I am aware that puppies are allowed to show but I still think YTCA should have put an age requirement on when a dog's coat should change by to insure that the "not to standard" black coated yorkies won't show. If most people finish their dogs by 1 1/2 or 2, than an age limit of 2 1/2 could have been made? But with no limits on age for color change, a 2 or 3 year old dog (who is no longer a puppy) could concievably show, this is a dog who hasn't a grey hair on his body but their owners are claiming that "their lines talk longer to turn blue"? YTCA has just left a big door open, for this to happen in my opinion.

Originally Posted by Brooklynn

I wouldn't put an adult "black" yorkie in the ring because that's not what the standard calls for...the black gene does help for a dark steel blue which is correct but if the white gene exists (which I haven't studied so I can't say it does or doesn't) and I got a parti colored yorkie first thing I would do is spay and neuter both male and female and all puppies because it's incorrect.

With people dyeing their yorkies to be the correct color I'm sure some people will also show dogs who are black because there is no age limit or restrictions to the color change.

Instead of breeding the off colored black yorkie to help improve the steel blue color, why not find a darker steel blue dog to breed back to the lighter blue dogs? By breeding a homozygous blue/grey (carries 2 grey genes) to a black (carries no grey genes), the puppies will be blue as adults but they will be heterozygous for the grey gene (they will only carry 1 grey gene from the homozygous blue/grey parent; the black parent doesn't have a grey gene to pass on) ... if those pups then breed back to a black or anther heterozygous blue/grey, you'll be producing black (non grey) and blue (grey) puppies (when adults).

If that's acceptable, why can't someone breed their off colored Golden to a blue coated yorkie, to enhance the tan/gold color in their pups? In both scenarios, neither dog has the correct genetic makeup according to the current YTCA standards.

[Brooklynn]

Originally Posted by Pinehaven

Just throwing out some more thoughts, I've tried to simplify the genetic stuff ....

I am aware that puppies are allowed to show but I still think YTCA should have put an age requirement on when a dog's coat should change by to insure that the "not to standard" black coated yorkies won't show. If most people finish their dogs by 1 1/2 or 2, than an age limit of 2 1/2 could have been made? But with no limits on age for color change, a 2 or 3 year old dog (who is no longer a puppy) could concievably show, this is a dog who hasn't a grey hair on his body but their owners are claiming that "their lines talk longer to turn blue"? YTCA has just left a big door open, for this to happen in my opinion.



With people dyeing their yorkies to be the correct color I'm sure some people will also show dogs who are black because there is no age limit or restrictions to the color change.

Instead of breeding the off colored black yorkie to help improve the steel blue color, why not find a darker steel blue dog to breed back to the lighter blue dogs? By breeding a homozygous blue/grey (carries 2 grey genes) to a black (carries no grey genes), the puppies will be blue as adults but they will be heterozygous for the grey gene (they will only carry 1 grey gene from the homozygous blue/grey parent; the black parent doesn't have a grey gene to pass on) ... if those pups then breed back to a black or anther heterozygous blue/grey, you'll be producing black (non grey) and blue (grey) puppies (when adults).

If that's acceptable, why can't someone breed their off colored Golden to a blue coated yorkie, to enhance the tan/gold color in their pups? In both scenarios, neither dog has the correct genetic makeup according to the current YTCA standards.

If a judge knows the standard or breeder/exhibitor by the time a dog reaches say 2 or 3 and it's still black or a light silver you can pretty much guarantee it's a black dog or a silver yorkie (common sense)...then you shouldn't take it in the ring and deserves a DQ in my humble opinion...but like it's been stated so many times...each "individual" has their own interputation of what is the correct color....Now I will say this....in my breeding/showing practices color is down the line for me...health is the most important and then how well that dog is put together ie..structure, movement, top line, good front, good rear movement, ear set, bite and then try to achieve that perfect color of a dark steel blue icing on the cake per say...so when you start with off colored yorkies...lets say a golden, chocolate, parti ect...I do not know the health issues that dog may have and why it was being bred in the first place because those colors are not part of what is accepted in the yorkie standard. Again this is all coming from what I believe whether it be right to some or wrong to others.
I go by what I believe in how I read the standard and what I see in the show ring and what I like in a yorkie. It may differ from others and that's ok.
Donna Bird
Brooklynn's Yorkshire Terriers

[kelkiss5]

So did you ever find the stud you were looking for??????

[YORKIEMOM2B2006]

omg they are gorgeous!

[diggy4]

I want to kiss her!!! She is beautiful and I am so glad this thread was started !!! I learned something new and I got to see an new kind of YORKIE!! YAY!! well new to me anyway... I hope you find the perfect stud and have many bouncing balls of Biro fluff!!!!!! Best of luck and please keep us posted I would love to follow your journey

[Lilacss]

She is a beauty.This has been a very interesting thread.Wishing you all the
best finding her a male companion.

[KathyinCali]

She is beautiful. I hope you will keep us up to date on your search and of course future puppies!

I have enjoyed this thread. Thank you for sharing

[tbohearon]

Is your girl AKC registered. I would love a puppy of hers when you breed her.

[delicatepuzzle]

Here is my contribution to the biros/chocolate parti's ... Check out my avatar. I love my Ella.