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12-19-2007, 02:28 PM | #1 |
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| Yorkies and Children ... I would love to talk about about policies of some pet rescue organizations in not adopting any of their Yorkies into families with children. This is the response I received from several rescue organization when applying to take in another rescue. Thus far I have limited experienced, having only rescued two female Yorkies. Both Yorkies were rescues who had been very abused and neglected, but have been wonderful with my six-year-old daughter, Hannah (and vice versa). I'm hoping to initiate a conversation about this so I can understand why some rescue organizations won't adopt to permanent homes with children. I'm also hoping some may consider changing these blanket policies because there are probably a lot of great homes out there with children who would love a Yorkie. I have attached a video of my daughter with Tika (who we've had for three days now) and how cute they interact with each other. Tika is very nervous with everyone she meets, but gets very excited when Hannah comes home from school. I personally think it's good for Yorkies and children learn to play together and love each other. |
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12-19-2007, 02:42 PM | #2 |
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| I see no problem with how your daughter interacts with Tika. That is just not how some kids act though. Some parents don't raise their children to respect animals. The rescue can't know for sure unless they spend time with you and that is not possible. I would never allow a family with younger children (maybe 4 years old and under) to adopt a Yorkie because it is common for kids to run and trip and fall. Falling on a Yorkie would mean serious injury or death for it.
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12-19-2007, 02:59 PM | #3 |
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| I agree about yorkies and children. My Sawyer loves my grandchildren too death, and they are very good with him; however, I would not be so trusting of all children. A yorkie can be hurt very badly by even a well meaning child. The rescue organizations do not have the time to check on all childrens behavior, so they may err on the side of safety for the dog. Your daughter is darling, and your fur baby is very lucky to be in such a nice home, but that is not always the case. have a great Holiday!
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12-19-2007, 03:05 PM | #4 |
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| I had never heard of this policy before the whole Ellen Degernes thing. And, I too thought it to be absurd. My daughter does excellent with Meka and she is 5 yrs old. and has been doing good since we got Meka at 9 wks. I do however, think that they should put a limit on it (maybe, w/ children under 5), because I can understand that kids can be rough, and envious if not given enough attention and in some cases act out on the animal for that.
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12-19-2007, 03:12 PM | #5 |
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| And.... I just wanted to add that.... Just because there isnt a child present in the home, doesnt necessarily make it that much safer for a Yorkie. I mean, why doesnt this rule apply to homes with other animals? Who's to say that another animal isnt capable of hurting a Yorkie and maybe doing way worse than a child can do?
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12-19-2007, 03:18 PM | #6 |
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| I don't agree with the policy either, but maybe their concern is more for the child than for the dog.. Rescue dogs can be unpredictable, because no one knows their history. |
12-19-2007, 03:48 PM | #7 |
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| No, I don't think it's more for the child than the dog..I think it's terrible that some breeders and rescue organizations don't want people with children having yorkies..I brought my children up around dogs(small and big), and my g-kids have been brought up with them as well..I have seen children that have been more gentle with little dogs than adults. They need to change their rules! A lot of breeders sell to adults, who have no children, and then on down the road, they end up having kids, and treat the dog like crap..I even spoke to a woman about 3 years ago that had a yorkie for sale for $100..of course I called, and she said she was already sold..I asked her why she had sold her, she said because the puppy was her baby, but when she had a baby, that the yorkie would never accept the baby, so, out went the yorkie..I think a parent should raise their kids right and teach them from a young age how to treat animals...pets are very good for children and can help them through a lot of hard times..I really do feel for you..! |
12-19-2007, 05:07 PM | #8 |
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| I'd like suggest a way for Yorkie rescue organizations to determine if the parent has good parenting skills, leading to a safe, loving environment for the Yorkie. Before I adopted Tika, I spent some time applying to various Yorkie rescue organizations. Some had questionnaires or application forms that were short and some had questionnaires or application forms that were very in depth. The best questionnaire (in my opinion) was one that asked basic, open-ended questions about the Yorkie breed such as "Please tell us about the Yorkshire Terrier breed's teeth" and "What special health issues should you watch for in a Yorkshire Terrier." These questions weeded out the people that really know about the breed from the ones that didn't. So in regards to children, why not ask a series of questions such as "What kind of experience does your child/ren have with pets?" and "What would you do if you walked in and your child was being rough with the dog?" and Answers to these questions would really give a rescue operation insight into how parenting is done. I'm not saying it is a good idea to send a Yorkie who doesn't like children to a home with children, but to determine based on the breed and it's size that all dogs should never live in a home with children limits their dogs' chances for finding a loving, forever home. For example, I have a wonderful home with the ability to provide unlimited veterinarian care because of my business. When Tika is fully house trained and settled in, I could very easily take in another "wounded soul" and spoil him/her for the rest of his/her life. Being rejected from providing a good home for a dog that needs me because I have a daughter doesn't make sense to me. |
12-19-2007, 05:22 PM | #9 |
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| I know, it makes you feel like you're punished for having children, when you can easily love a child and a dog..I don't know what it is with certain breeders, and rescues..to me, I would much rather have a dog around children playing with them and loving them and getting love back in return, than to put with an older person that won't get on the floor and play with them..I know exactly where you're coming from..Lucky for me, I never ran in to any breeders like this! |
12-19-2007, 05:45 PM | #10 |
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| I understand both sides to this, I have a young daughter who is so gentle and can safely handle copper and another tiny female I was pup sitting. Emma knows the rules and that she is big enough to potentially cause harm to them by stepping on them and dropping. She doesn't run in the house, or even outside if the dogs are around. All Em knows is little dogs. However, I have two neighbors with good kids that no matter how many times i remind them not to pick up the dogs and so forth they cannot seem to remember. They get too excited at the idea of a "tiny puppy" I would not place a dog in these homes because it wouldn't be safe, I think that it is too hard to judge a young child that you don't know, the potential risk is too much. But when I look at rescues it makes me sad because we would be a great home for one of those little angels, we have a lot of love to give and the resources and knowledge available but we also have a young daughter.
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12-19-2007, 05:49 PM | #11 |
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| I have to add the highlight of my day is seeing Emma on the floor playing with copper, watching them play fetch or her teaching him tricks. There is nothing neater.
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12-19-2007, 06:12 PM | #12 |
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| The purpose of a rescue organization is to find the best home possible for dogs that have already lost one home for one reason or another. It's about what is best for the dogs, not about the people applying. Small children and small dogs are generally not a good mix. They are just too fragile. Why take a chance on the safety of a dog they have been entrusted to place in the best situation possible? I have heard too many stories of toy breed dogs being dropped by small children with tragic results. A friend lost her little Yorkie puppy years ago. Her husband was a vet and their daughters were wonderful with the puppy. Unfortunately, one of her daughters let a friend hold the puppy and the puppy started wiggling. He was dropped and broke his back. He had to be euthanized. |
12-19-2007, 06:47 PM | #13 |
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| That's a tragic story. But couldn't the same situation happen if you adopted out a Yorkie to a grandmother and her grandchildren came over for a visit? |
12-19-2007, 06:56 PM | #14 | |
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12-19-2007, 07:45 PM | #15 |
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| Of course tragedies can happen with any age person and a small dog. The goal is to minimize the risk, though. Rescue groups get hundreds of applications and must "profile" to find the ideal adopter. Families with small children, renters, students, people who have given up a pet before, people without vet references, etc., all are a higher risk group. Since the goal is to find the best home for the dog, people who have these risk factors are usually passed over. Don't forget, good breeders of toy breed dogs usually won't sell their puppies to families with young children either. |
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