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[LEFT]This whole thing started out October 5th 2006, you had an ad up stating that you had yorkie puppies so i sent you a reply that i was interested in getting a little girl!!! Below is the email i sent:

Name: Alexandria
Date: Oct 5, 2006

hi my name is alexandria i live in burbank in california a have a
really clean apartment an i was woundering if i could please adopt one of ur
puppies i would be able to pay for she shipping fee just not the $500 for
the pup if u choose to let me adopt i would e-mail u pics every month an
send u videos to show u that the puppy is doing good please find it in ur
hearts to let me adopt this pup i would spoil it to death thanks for ur
time please if u could e-mail me back
~alexandria~


then she replyed with this:


thanks for emailing me I would love for you to adopt one but sweetie I do
offer payment plans I do understand everyone is not able to afford the price
so how about this..I can allow you to pay for the shipping 125$ and pay 200$ for the pup totaling 325$ If you want to pay the 125$ for the deposit now and then the remander
pay off in segments. Hows that Im willing to work with you if you really
want the pup. Thanks

So we had an agreed deal of $325

thank u so much i dont get my pay check till the 13th so well fix everything then thanks a bunch god bless an if u have pix could u plz email them to me thanks

her email back to me:

oh ok thats fine the 13th if you could keep me posted on how things are
with you and I would be happy to hold the pup until then...and sure I
attached it email thanks so much and god bless

my email to her:

when i do get the money on the 13th how do we do this do i mail it to u whats ur mailing address i was thinking i might be able to pick it up i've never had a puppy shipped im a lil nervous bout that but im sure everything will be okay

She sends me care instructions and payment method:

payment process

My husband and I do are payment there a service called green dot
If you would go to www.greendotonline.com

scroll down to the bottom right hand side and type in your zipcode were
is says locations of stores...stop in any of the locations and pick up a universal greendot
moneypack...is many different brands if you turn the greendot over it will cost 4.95$
the cheapest one they have...you will then go to the cashier and she will
transfer the funds from there....we will need the long digit
confirmation number on the back of the greendot for are records....and thats it!


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mother long enough to eat and drink at will and with out prompting. We take
every precaution to make sure your puppy arrives in your home healthy, happy and worry free for you.
Some puppies, especially the small breeds such as Yorkies and
Chihuahuas, can stay in our kennel up to 12 weeks. These breeds are more fragile when they are young and need extra time to mature and grow than the larger breeds. Although you may be impatient to see your new puppy, it is
worth the wait to make sure he/she arrives at your home healthy and remains that way.When your puppy is ready to go to his new home 8weeks, we will arrange airline transportation of the puppy. Saturday is our normal shipping
day but special arrangements can be made if Saturday is not convenient for you.We ship puppies primarily with Continental Airlines Cargo Service.
Airline shipment costs $125-175 and that charge is paid to the airline. Some
airports do not have cargo service and your puppy will need to be
shipped VIP to the airport closest to you. Please choose the major airport you
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Winter/Summer Shipment Warning: Due to low temperatures around the
country, shipping during the winter months can be difficult. The temperature at
the origin airport, the connecting airport and the arriving airport must be
above 10 degrees. Airlines will cancel shipments to airports with
temperatures below 10 degrees. Likewise, in the summer temperatures
must be below 85 degrees for shipment. If your puppy's shipment is canceled due
to temperatures, we will make every effort to ship the puppy as soon as
the weather looks favorable. We may have to ship late in the afternoon and
we have to be ready to ship any day of the week to avoid temperature
conflicts.Your puppy will be in a comfortable, reusable shipping kennel with
plenty of food and water for the trip. He/she will be placed in a temperature
controlled and comfortable part of the plane. A veterinarian will
inspect your puppy prior to the flight to certify that he or she is healthy.



Prep for your new one
Your new puppy will arrive to you in a Pet Taxi, or Pet Carrier. There
will be a piece of carpet inside that the puppy can sit or lay on.
Underneath this piece of carpet will be your paperwork, such as shot record, AKC
papers, dog food information etc. inside a ziplock bag. Your puppy is
up to date on all vaccinations but you will need to finish the series that is
required for him to be fully immune to any of these diseases. Try not
to take the puppy to a place that other animals have been and put him
down. The dog food and nutri-cal will be taped to the top of the taxi. The
airlines will feed them only if there is a delay in flight. I will give them
nutri-cal right before take off so their blood sugar will not get low,
you will need to give your puppy nutri-cal as soon as you pick the puppy
up. I require that you call me the minute you have the puppy in your arms. I
also like to know that the airlines have done their jobs by keeping them
safe for us.
Your new puppy should be in a confined area when you are not watching
it very carefully. It will not know about danger since it has been
protected so very carefully here. I recommend a human baby play pen at first, put a
puppy pee pad in one corner and the food, bed and toys in the other corners.
In the cold months you can put a clip on light with a 75 watt bulb over
the puppy’s bed. (These clip on lights can be purchased at Wal-Mart)
Puppy needs to be warmer than you are for a little while. The puppy will be able to
move away from the warmth if it is too warm. When your puppy is not in the
play pen you will need to watch very carefully not to step on it. Puppies
love to be right under your feet, you will need to learn to walk with a shuffle
to ensure not hurting it. Do not leave your puppy sitting on anything that
it can not get down by itself. Falling off of a chair can kill your new
puppy. Do not let children hold the puppy standing up. Puppies are very wiggly
and can be dropped. A fall from a standing person can kill your new puppy.
Your new puppy needs to eat and this is very important. The Science
Diet Puppy dry food and water needs to be available to your puppy at all
times. Puppies eat a little bit all day long. Do Not change your puppy’s
food, it can cause diarrhea and possibly worse. If your new puppy will not eat, please do not hesitate to call me at home, , or email me. You can give
nutri-cal to your puppy every day as a treat or reward for doing
something good, it will also keep the puppy's blood sugar up. You can not
overdose your puppy but it can cause diarrhea if given too much.
Try not to over handle your new puppy. I know it is tempting to hold
and play with this absolutely adorable creature but let the puppy rest as
much as needed. This is important. You are going to do a great job, I just
know it!

God Bless you and your new life with this precious baby!
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Date: Oct 7th, 2006

My response:


can i have a phone number to conntact u on plz thanks that would be great. one more thing where are u guys going to be shipping her from like
what state or country u are in. Is it a gurl? if yes is she spayed or not?


her response is:

yes she is a girl her name is kimie and we are in dallas texas and no
she is not spayed and sure you can have my number its 817-555-5555 please if you call leave a message Im usually working but I do return messages with a couple of minutes

(i dont want to post her real number for obvious reasons)


Date: Oct 9th, 2006

I respond back:




k im going to be able to pay u $200 later on this week and im still working on the $125 okay just wanted to keep u posted



she responds with this:

note: i called her that day and she told me she has a contract she would mail to my house for me to fill out and mail back to her...

ok wonderful I will keep an eye out for your email later this week
thanks for checking back with me on things I appreciate that...talk with you
soon


my response:

Date: Oct 12th, 2006


are u going to to scheduale the flight cause i dont know how to im going to give u the pin for the greendot tomorrow how is she doing? do u know how much she weighs now? i cant wait to get her lolz hope to hear from u soon
~alexandria~

her response:

no i havent set a flight yet I was waiting on your reply back on the
confirmation code on the greendot before proceeding on the last vet
appt and the flight out please get with me tommorw morning with the status
thanks and god bless christy


My response with the greendot number for her:

good morning there is some of the money $200 im going to go buy another greendot card and put the money in that one too okay The green dot confirmation # is

how is lil kimie doing well i'll email u back with the other pin later bye

note: i then sent her the $125 later that day so according to our agreement i had already paid in full...


her response:

thanks so much and i will process the payment and send you a
invoice/reciept for your payment made

her again:

ok i just wanted to confirm i got this payment as well and I will
process it and send a invoice on this one as well...I will send that both invoices one i get off work later this evening and give you information on the vet appt date and time as well as we can look into some flights out for the pup when the pup is ready to come. I will need your full name, address, phone number,nearest major airport name so i can try to book ahead of time.
Thanks
and I will talk with you later alex god bless


My response:

Date: Oct 13th, 2006

the nearest airport would be the LAX my number is (323)555-5555or (323)555-5555um i dont have my california id yet my but my boyfriend does so he is going to come with me to get her his name is daniel an my name is alexandria but if u could put his name under the pick up that would be great k just tell me when u are free to ship her that would be great im free tomorrow till till 3:30 then i have work from 4pm to 10:30pm an on sunday i go in at 11am to 5pm but during the week im free at all times so i will have plenty of time to spoil her lolz so please get back at me asap via email. and thank u so much for working out this deal with me God Bless
~alex~

Her response to me:

I was wanting to know when is the remander of the money going to be
sent sweetieI cant ship the pups until 8-9 weeks old and the pup is not old enough
yet to be sent

Note: remander of the money what???? i sent all of it we agreed on 325 i sent 325 humm something is not right???


What i told her:

how much more money do u need i thought i sent one card with 125 and the other with 200

She tells me this:

yes sweetie the total for the pup is 625$
you sent 325$

I respond with this:

Date: Oct14th, 2006

i though the agreement was $325

thanks for emailing me I would love for you to adopt one but sweetie I do
offer payment plans I do understand everyone is not able to afford the price
so how about this..I can allow you to pay for the shipping 125$ and pay 200$ for the pup totaling 325$ If you want to pay the 125$ for the deposit now and then the remander
pay off in segments. Hows that Im willing to work with you if you really
want the pup. Thanks

Her response:

yes 325$ is what you payed for the deposit for the pup which holds the
pup until it ready to ship in a week and a half from now it has to be of
age to ship or the airport will not put the pup on the plane because it is a
requirement...

I was trying to explain the full price of the pup is 625$
you have allready placed the deposit of 325$ which leaves the balance
owed of 300$
you dont have to pay 300$ right now you have plently of time to come up
with the fundsI am saying I can work with you on the price if it is to much or
something like that just let me know..


My response:

lets make this simple wat is the last price u are willing to do for kimie i want her so bad my best friend told me she would loan me some money plz email me back asap thx a bunch sorry for the trouble

She says:

Hi sweetie again I'm sorry we are having so much trouble with this
ok if you can come up with 200$ more or at least 175$ then sure I can
work with you on getting this puppy to you when ready not a problem

Me and my fiance were talking about this lady being fishy and that i might be best not to get the pup but i said no i want her and i already sent the money so just pay her the remainder and we can get her!!!


So then my fiance responds with:
Date: nov 16th, 2006

this is danny im going to send you a money gram payment of 326 so that you can send the pup to us asap That way to have a total of $651 so that should be more than enough
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Finally on the nov 30th, 2006 we get an email:


Thank you i recived the money and sent you the invoice in another email,I've been off work since yesterday cause of the last minute blizzard that came are way once it passes which it will
I will talk with my boss and pick a day and see if its ok with you guys for pick up and I will let my husband know its ok to go ahead and book the it.

We say:
okay thanks so much just let us know soon as the weather clears I hope you guys are alright take care and god bless

Then the lies begin as i found out her on yorkie talk later she always uses the same lie as to why she cant get the pup to the airport...

The blizzard was awful my husband recked are car in that blizzard luckly hes
alivewe are talking with the insurance people to get a new ride or so forth
thank you sooo much for the concern I didnt think it was going to get
as bad as it did we hardly have weather like that...I think thats why
people hear dont know how to drive in such condition we are so use to
hot weather..but thank you for her schedule that will help me alot
and I will figure out something and let you guys know soon thank you
again

we ask:

do you think its going to be possible to get her by sunday because i had planned a welcoming party for her because really after this sunday its going to be very difficult to pick her up almost impossible if not we can wait till the end of next week then maybe you will have your car fixed

She says:

Ohhhh Thank you guys soooo much I appreciate that
Im just overwhelmed at the moment with this and that would be
great for us...I will need a little time to get our insurance people to
pay for the claim so we can afford another way around at the moment
I will no more on wednesday they set me a phone appt with
the claim adjuster to view and let us know what they can do for us.
If you could check back with me wednesday night or thursday morning
about the outcome I would appreciate it thanks sooo much again...

Then we get to thinking that she might be lieing so we send her this:
Date: dec 5, 2006


hey i just finished watching the weather channel for the flying conditions and the best day to ship kimmie would have to be thursday not only does alex have the day off but all the other days of this week both texas and california are going to be haveing bad weather so it would be best if you get the flight booked tomorrow which is wed and ship her thursday that way you have the 24 hour notice for the airport and everything and also her vet check certificate that u got earlier this week will be current okay soo we will be expecting her on thrusday so to make it simple u just pick a time for us to pick her up pererably after 12 for the pick up here in california and that would be fine okay below is alex's information again so we dont waist any more time with that


We dont hear from her till Dec 18th, 2006 via phone she says that she has no way to get to the airport so were start getting angry because she is clearly lieing and its fustrating so we hang up and email her this:

u guys need to find a way to get there. i called my uncle
and gave him all the information i have on u so he just says if i dont get kimme the yorkie soon his lawyer will handle it so he is giving u some time to send her

she says:
ok thats a good deal and I will make prepartion some how some way this week to get her to you...thanks for responding back


we ask on the 23rd:
my uncle would like to know if you made the preparations yet to send her
he's only giving you till the end of this week... and send kimmie the yorkie...


she then lies:

the flight is allready booked and ready to go for
tuesday after chrismtas leaving at 3:45 arriving at 7:20pm they were booked
allready for today thank you...theres no need to sue me
if Im have made arrangements to get the pup there


we called the airport:

i just called the airport and they said that there is nothing booked under yours or my name they checked several times this is bull**** that dog should have been on the plane a long a** time ago im going to call my uncle at work now and press charges this is rediculous.


so in oct 30th she write calls me telling me the flight times and to go pick kimmie up today so i get dressed and go why im on the way to the airport she emailed me this:

the pup should be there in a matter of minutes!! please call me and let me know you got her after you read her instructions and so forth on how to take care of her and you have any basic questions please let me know I will help you understand its very important not to switch anything it can cause her to get sick and die...thanks


Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007

i emailed her
i have followed all the instructions and she is doing great she has the most perfect personality and daniel has fallen in love with her she is officaially the baby in the house we bout her a hoodie cause its cold out here so when we go out she can be warm i'll email you the pics. i just have a few questions for you where are the papers for her they werent on her kennel? could you send me a pic of her parents and her brothers and sisters im making a
scrapbook for her. thanks very much for everything and blessing our family
with this beautiful baby


She respondes with:

glad you like her
your right she is a sweety
and ok that would be great I would
love to see her..and sure I should get
those done with weekend for you for the
scrap book.


i ask:


did u get a chance to take the pics?


she says:

ohh crap Im sorry sweetie I forgot
ok I'll tell him to do so for you..
How is she..

note: who is him??? i thought she breedes them in her home??


i ask:

hi i have a problem i need to know what shots the yorkie i got from
you guys has had cause the health certificate i got doesnt specify so
could you guys email me back with that info cause i dont want to overdose her on any shots oh and when can you send her akc paper like i said before they were there with her thanks a bunch

she tells me:

look in your stuff from the airline theres a small paper that tell you the birthdate of the puppy and what it has allready had you give that paper to the vet and they know how to go about understanding it. IF you cant find it let me know and I may be able to find out .



note: how does the breeder not noe what shots she has given her babbies??? something is not right...


i respond;

yea i cant seem to find it could you please find out for me her birthday was oct 21, 2006 she has an appointment for th 2nd of feburary so if i could noe by then taht would be great thanks


note: the puppy she sent me wasnt the one i had originally asked for the one i had asked for had been born in august so this is weird


she tells me this:

nope her birthday is nov 17 she is not the same puppy I orginally wanted to give to you she got bigger than expected so I thought i was doing you a favor by giving you another puppy that a puppy was you orginally wanted..since I waited so long to send the first one and it got to old.

note: wow this lady is nuts she doesnt even know what do she sent me

so i tell her this:

okay then if her birthdate is november 17 how did they allow u to put her on the plan tha would have made her 6 weeks old and 2 days and that would also mean that u sent me the wrong papers cause the papers u sent he say that her name is trisha and the birthdate is oct 21 and the health certificate is dated 12/29/06 that was the day before u sent her i have scanned it and attached it to this email i just want to noe what shots shes had so that i dont overdose her on any get back to me as soon as you can thanks

she says this:

yes your correct I must of been thinking of another litter or something
yes whats on that paper is correct and no your not going to over dose her
none she has only had deworming and no shots so yes go ahead and proceed on
her puppy shots I dont know what I was thinkking about thanks for scanning that it
helped me understand what you were referring to...

note: omg she hasnt had any shot and she's 8 weeks old this is sooo sad so i took her to get her shots hummm is she a good breeder???? i dont thinks so

i emailed her and ask for the pictures of the parents and she sends me both i posted them in another thread and this is the link if you read that thread it will show you that that picture was stolen from someones website


http://www.yorkietalk.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=101625

its funny because when i asked for the pictures and if she had taken them she responed with he sure did again who is this he i know its not her husband[/LEFT]
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okay so yea till this day i havent gotten the akc papers and i still dont know where coco came from this lady has lied about her name where she lives everything i have been talking to one of the lady's on here and we now beleve that this lady who sold me coco bought her off of someone else and sent her to me because i had threatened to sue her so know my goal is to find out where coco came from and if her parents are okay and if there not to rescue them i will not stop my search till i find out the truth
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wow sorry you had to go through all this. definetly sounds fishy to me. you still don't have all your answers? maybe she is a puppy mill, and that is who the he is.. someone who cleans the cages or seomthing. did she sell other breeds on her site?
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What a horrible ordeal! You should report her to AKC or the Humane Society!!!
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Wow that's complicated. At least you got a puppy! It sounded so much like a scam I thought she was going to take your money and you'd never hear back from her.

People don't sell puppies(yorkshire terriers) for in the $300's so right there should have tipped you off this was going to be difficult. I'm really happy you did get one though, so many have been ripped off it's heartbreaking.

Where did you find her ad?
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People don't sell puppies(yorkshire terriers) for in the $300's so right there should have tipped you off this was going to be difficult. I'm really happy you did get one though, so many have been ripped off it's heartbreaking.

I agree. This whole thing sounds fishy to me and I woudn't have even went though with it. I am skeptical about buying puppies over the internet, unless it was a YT member that I new.
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yea 300 did sound fishy but i had already sent the money then i enede up sending another 325 so it totaled to 651 and im not sure if i put it up there but i sent another 50 so vet stuff so it ended up being 700 i was scared the whole time that it was going to be a scam so i went on her hard i would curse her out threaten her with sueing and things of that sort till i got my pup because sh had told me she wasnt goint to return the money to me but n-e-ways then it turns out the puppy didnt have any shots!!!!!

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Wow that's complicated. At least you got a puppy! It sounded so much like a scam I thought she was going to take your money and you'd never hear back from her.

People don't sell puppies(yorkshire terriers) for in the $300's so right there should have tipped you off this was going to be difficult. I'm really happy you did get one though, so many have been ripped off it's heartbreaking.

Where did you find her ad?
i found her ad on domestic sale
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It's sounds like the "breeder" got scared and just bought a yorkie off the 'black market' just to please you. Especially if it wasn't the same puppy she was allegedly advertising to you...
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wow sorry you had to go through all this. definetly sounds fishy to me. you still don't have all your answers? maybe she is a puppy mill, and that is who the he is.. someone who cleans the cages or seomthing. did she sell other breeds on her site?
ive seen her advertise kittens poms and chi's
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What a mess. I can't blame you. With all the lies and fishiness I would want to know the truth too - just for my own piece of mind.

How is your puppy? Is she healthy?
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It's sounds like the "breeder" got scared and just bought a yorkie off the 'black market' just to please you. Especially if it wasn't the same puppy she was allegedly advertising to you...
yea i think so to but i will find outim kinda obsesed with finding out im still in contact with her she has tried to patch things up with her nice lies but i have found out everything she speaks out of her mouth is a lie im sending her an email right now
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Wow! I am so sorry to hear about your whole ordeal Alex. That woman totally sucked. At least, you did end up with a puppy. Too bad Coco don't have papers and you will never know where she originally came from. I hope that woman gets caught and go to jail Goodluck on your search!
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