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10-13-2006, 02:49 PM | #1 |
Donating YT 5000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio
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| Bark Busters dog training? Has anyone used the Bark Busters dog training company? Looking for any helpful positive or negative information. Thanks! |
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10-13-2006, 02:57 PM | #2 |
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| Welcome to YT! I have a neighbor that used them a few years ago and she raves about the results. I don't know too many details though, sorry! |
10-13-2006, 03:41 PM | #3 |
I Love My Yorkies Donating Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana
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| Ive heard of them but I have not used them. If you do tell us how it was because Im curious to know
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10-13-2006, 05:26 PM | #4 |
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| Thank You! We have a 4 1/2 yr. old Yorkie Poo and a 4 month old Yorkie and we are trying to find the best training route to go, so everyone gets along! We are researching all the options in our area, but I will let everyone know if we decide to go with Bark Busters and how it works! |
10-14-2006, 06:42 PM | #5 |
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| Bark Busters is popular around here because they have a "guarantee" but that is only if you do exactly as they say. So if the dog doesn't behave they just say you weren't doing it right. Just be careful. I'm not a fan. We go to a local independent place where the trainer has a MS in animal behavior and is a Certified Pet Dog Trainer
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10-15-2006, 05:19 PM | #6 |
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| Bark Busters is out. Clicker method? We have already decided against Bark Busters. We have talked with three people that have used them in our area and they were not happy. They said their methods scared their dogs and they all used them only twice. We are now looking into training where they use the clicker. Does anyone have thoughts on that. |
10-15-2006, 05:23 PM | #7 |
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| Clicker is good We do "positive reinforcement" which is the same as clicker, just without the clicker. We just say "YES!" This is especially good for training tricks but is also great for loose leash walking and everything else. They may also encourage the NILIF (Nothing in life is free) which means you ask your dog to do something, like sit, before you feed them, throw their toy, etc. It teaches them patience and establishes you as the leader (not "pack" leader, just as in you control the resources). So far it's worked very well for us. I find that Loki looks forward to "homework" and going to class and he enjoys earning rewards!
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10-15-2006, 05:30 PM | #8 |
I <3 Ferdinand Donating Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Arizona
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| Clicker training is GREAT! It's all positive training. It seems to work really well, but you have to be sure to keep up with it. Petsmart has really good clicker training, and if you are not happy with the results you can repeat the classes without any questions asked.
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10-18-2006, 08:05 AM | #9 |
Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto
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| I had barkbusters come to my home once - they're not very good at all. They basically tell you to scare your dog into compliance. |
10-18-2006, 05:01 PM | #10 |
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| That's what we found out from a few people who used them in the area. They said they throw a bag of chains at them to scare them! |
10-18-2006, 06:18 PM | #11 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Missouri
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| They were not training correctly if they threw the training aid at the dog. I was told specifically NOT to throw it at the dog, but to drop it at my feet to make noise to get the dog's attention to stop a behavior. The chain is in a canvas bag, for noise only. It's used very similiarly to the Can of Coins that other people have found very useful. Also, BarkBuster's is not based on scaring the dog into compliance. |
10-19-2006, 12:27 AM | #12 |
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| They supplied us with the names of several people as references and we called all of them and not one of them was happy with the service. They all either only had them come out 1 or 2 times and they all said they felt their dogs were frightened and they all sought training somewhere else. I was disappointed because we thought based on what we had read and talking with the company that it sounded like a good training method. I was surprised to get the responses from their own references! |
10-19-2006, 05:09 AM | #13 |
Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Missouri
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| I'm not 100% satisfied right now either, BUT, before BarkBusters: 1. Was peeing on the floor often 2. Barking incessantly at night outside and then couldn't come inside and be still, she wanted to be biting our feet or barking at the door. 3. Couldn't walk on a leash very well AFTER 1. Potty training is 90% better!!!! Has only peed on the floor if left in a room alone after eating or drinking (like if I go to put the kids to bed and forget to put her out first) 2. She actually started laying down by me at night while I watch tv, which had NEVER happened before and we can actually watch movies at night now because she's much calmer! She is more content to be with us and not be patrolling the house or backyard. 3. She walks on a leash much better and is happier doing so than before. I can only tell you my first hand experience. I still am working with a trainer. We will be working next time on setting invisible boundaries when someone is at the door so she will stay back and not bark.......wish us luck. Right now she runs to the door and barks usually crazy and then tries to get them or run out the door. She's gotten a little better since we started the training but we haven't worked on this specifically yet. |
10-19-2006, 06:04 AM | #14 |
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| BarkBusters is a franchise. I don't believe you need any certifications to open one, as you don't technically need any certifications to be a "trainer" You might have had an OK experience but someone else might have a terrible one. We've covered all of these things in positive reinforcement training classes and I didn't even need anyone to come to my home. And there is no scaring involved. You can train your dog to go to their "spot" or crate or whatever when the doorbell rings just by practicing and giving them a treat every time for doing so. You condition them to go to the "spot" and wait for the treat when the bell rings... Leash walking is easy to teach. I've seen HUGE dogs who are terrible pullers learn to walk nicely in an 8 week CGC course. I taught Loki in about 2-3 weeks with a 20 min walk every day. You just stop when they pull, and then they let slack in the leash you praise them and give them a treat and keep walking. We solved the hyper dog problem by sending Loki to daycare once a week and wearing him out before bedtime. He also has gotten significantly better now that he's grown out of his "puppy" stage. I'm glad that it helped you but I would absolutely NOT recommend them. I've heard so many horror stories.
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10-19-2006, 07:48 AM | #15 |
Donating YT 2000 Club Member | We also go to a local kennel for training. The owner/trainer competes and her dogs are awesome. We used the clicker training & found good success with it. We are in Novice obedience now, all the other dogs are going to show & compete, except us! Jaxon loves it! When we pull in the parking lot, he gets really excited. We are off-leash - and he is doing great!
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