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08-31-2006, 06:37 PM | #1 |
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| Help - Question with 2 Untrained Yorkies and 1 crate! Okay I have a question and need some serious advice. I have a 9 month old boy who is not potty trained 100% yet. I just got another girl that is 8 months old who is not either. My hubby has finally had it and snapped. It really takes a lot to make him snap so I need to do something. I tried crate training my little boy when I got him and no matter how small I made the crate he went pee in it anyways and just laid in it. Now with both of them peeing my hubby thinks we should try the crate thing again. My question is this? Can I put both of them in the crate together and do you think this would be an effective way to potty train them? Seriously they need to learn and I am at my wits end too. It is just so annoying that they just do not get it yet - ya know!!! I love my babies but would really love it if they would get this down.
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08-31-2006, 06:47 PM | #2 |
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| Just bumping this up for you |
08-31-2006, 07:10 PM | #3 |
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| have you tried confining them to hard surface areas and using pee pads? If you have a fenced area in you yard what about a doggie door. I personally think if you try crating them they are going to make a terrible fuss, now that they are not used to it. |
08-31-2006, 07:23 PM | #4 | |
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08-31-2006, 07:50 PM | #5 |
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| I would go back to crate training. I'm not sure about putting them together though. Maybe someone else can give advice regarding them being in the same crate. But I would go back to crating them. Don't give up. I know it's a challenge. I crate Kiki and I also bought a belly band for him when I can't keep my eyes on him 100%. He is 10 months old and is doing a lot better.
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09-02-2006, 12:54 AM | #6 |
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| Are you taking them out on-leash and supervising, or only trying to get them to use the doggie door? You need to be consistent and praise and treat every time they go outside. They won't pick this up on their own - you need to teach them. If you aren't already, try taking them out on leashes so you are right there to reward them. I think crate training is fine. At first Loki would pee and lay in it when we'd miss signals or leave him too long. Once his bladder matured a little bit he was fine as long as we only left him for short periods of time. It took us a few weeks to figure out what to do (and what NOT to do) and it took over a year for him to be able to hold it even 5-6 hours in there. We didn't increase the amount of time too quickly - we went VERY slowly. (Especially since he wasn't left for long periods of time on a regular basis, so it's not fair to be home with him all week and then crate him for 8 hours on Saturday.) We STILL use the crate when we are gone. He bolts to his crate when we pick up our keys - he knows he gets a treat and a good nap without us bugging him. I don't think crate training is something you just do until they are housetrained and then stop. We use the crate every day, even if only to give him his Kong after dinner. Good luck!
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09-02-2006, 01:51 AM | #7 |
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| I dont know about the two unbroken house furbabys in a crate... I put bella (my un broken house trained and un crate broken puppy) and Bunny (my house broken and crate trained furbaby ) in a crate together. I think Bunny told Bella if she had to step in her mess she was going to get it when they got out of it BC Ever scent I put them together a few times in the crate. Bella has gotten the idea no to pee or poo in her crate. Good luck on crate training! It will take a little time but they will get it. Olivia, Bunny and Bella |
09-04-2006, 04:41 PM | #8 |
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| I can't offer any advice on actually getting them housebroke. I'm ready to pull my hair out with my two!!! But it's not all their fault, I've been terribly sick with this pregnancy and have been on bed rest, so I haven't been able to be very diligent with the housebreaking. I do however, have advice about putting them in the same crate. I have two puppies, one is 8 months old and the other is 6 months old. I would not put them both in the same crate at the same time. I tried that with mine as my youngest one didn't like to be alone. It lasted all of about 5 seconds before my other was like "uh, no way!! Let me out!" I think they both need their own space. The main idea behind crate training is that the dogs won't go potty in there, because it becomes their "den". I think it would be a lot more successful if each had their own "den". Mine actually enjoy their crates very much now. I leave the crates open and during the day or at night when I'm up too late, I'll try to find them and there they are, in their crates just looking at me, like, "aren't you going to go to bed, lady?" I've heard that crate training is a very good way to housebreak. The only thing is that it takes some major commitement and consistency. My problem is the consistency. They say to take the dog out in the morning, if the dog does both pee and poop, the dog can stay out of the crate, feed and water and then it's back in the crate, then you take the dog out every 15 to 20 minutes until they pee and poop (they need to pee and POOP, after each meal), if they pee and poop, then they get supervised freedom for a half hour, at which time, take them out to try to go, if they don't pee (they shouldn't have to poop), they go back in the crate and you repeat taking them out every 15 or 20 minutes, until they pee. Then start all over with the supervised play time. Like I said, I think the key to crate training is consitency and commitment. I, myself, need to get better at it. I'm too soft and feel so terribly guilty for putting them back in their crates. but talking with my vet about the guilty feeling, his response was "if you are consistent with the crate training, they will only be in their crates constantly for two weeks. That's all it takes if you are consistent with the crate and schedule. It's better they are secluded for two weeks during the training then for the rest of their lives, because they never get fully housebroke". He has a point. Good luck and so sorry about the huge post. I get long winded laying here in bed, twiddling my thumbs!
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09-04-2006, 04:49 PM | #9 |
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| Just in reference to separate crates or not, it really depends on the temperament of the dogs. Mine have grown up together and will not sleep separately. They have always been crated together and will whine if separated at night and when we go out for errands, so maybe give it a try (when you are home to gauge the reaction) and see how they react. My $0.02 |
09-04-2006, 06:09 PM | #10 |
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| From day 1 Timmy was awesome. He never pottied in his kennel. Then when I got Mimi 1 month later she was total opposite. She pottied in the kennel and whined all night long (I had them in the same kennel). The following day I bought her own kennel and put the devider in. She would still go potty in the kennel so I kept making it smaller and smaller until she stopped. My opinion...I would get her own sleeping area for now. Since my babies are now 5&6 months old and they are 100% pad trained they now sleep with me. If they need to use the bathroom in the middle of the night they wake me up and I let them out my room. |
09-05-2006, 05:48 AM | #11 |
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| Thanks guys for the help and advice. So far it has been two days since I have been trying this new technique and so far so good. I feel less guilty leaving them in the crate when they are together plus they do well together. So far no accidents in the crate. I will keep you guys updated - thanks again.
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