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linz06 · 08-28-2006, 09:49 PM

Layla does this too, she has since I can remember, and she's almost 11 months old now. I've tried teaching "drop it" with her toys for months but she just isn't getting it, she seems to only learn things (like sit, lay down) when i have the toy and she wants it. When she has something she shouldn't have, she either runs under the couch, or runs behind my drumset, and goes in between and around it if i try to reach at her. As soon as I say "treat" or she hears crumpling of the bag she'll drop it immediately and come to me. But if I move towards the thing she had before she gets a treat, or even after she gets it, she'll run back and grab it again. It seems like she's just doing it to get treats.
I could ignore her but she loves underwear, and I have a male classmate living with me. That's just awkward. And if I ignore her when she gets a kleenex or paper, it doesn't matter. She just wants it to rip it up anyway. So I end up cleaning a whole floor full of ripped up paper.
I don't know what to do anymore

FirstYorkie · 08-28-2006, 11:17 PM

Lindsey,

It would help if you could either keep treats on your person or else stashed in any room where she might go with forbidden item. Then, either say "treat" or let her see that you have one. As she's dropping the item, say "drop it". Then, roll the treats in the opposite direction so that she chases them and you can reach what you are trying to get. She will eventually learn what "drop it" means.

It's important that you practice this many, many times with low value items like her toys. It's also important that you give back the item that she has as often as you can. You don't want "drop it" to always mean the end of her fun! In fact, your goal should be that you give back what she has in her mouth 90% of the time. That's alot of practice with lower value objects!

Brookef18 · 08-29-2006, 04:40 AM

At Chewy's training class last night we learned drop it. I was told you have two toys that are the same... You throw one and when they get it you dangle the other one and say drop it. They want what ever you have so they drop the one and you give them the other... You can throw them and play fetch this way if your dog will do that. Any way they get the idea that you want them to drop the thing they have....
Chewy takes off when he has some thing (even a treat) the trainer said to reward with treats and hold him while he is eatting it to learn that he doesn't need to run. Also when you give some thing like a treat you bring your hand back so the dog needs to come into your space to get it. If you extend your arm to give something it encourages them to grab and run! hope this helps!

linz06 · 08-29-2006, 05:42 AM

Thanks FirstYorkie! I'm going to start that tonight. Hopefully this one works out!

Pattie · 08-29-2006, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by linz06

Layla does this too, she has since I can remember, and she's almost 11 months old now. I've tried teaching "drop it" with her toys for months but she just isn't getting it, she seems to only learn things (like sit, lay down) when i have the toy and she wants it. When she has something she shouldn't have, she either runs under the couch, or runs behind my drumset, and goes in between and around it if i try to reach at her. As soon as I say "treat" or she hears crumpling of the bag she'll drop it immediately and come to me. But if I move towards the thing she had before she gets a treat, or even after she gets it, she'll run back and grab it again. It seems like she's just doing it to get treats.
I could ignore her but she loves underwear, and I have a male classmate living with me. That's just awkward. And if I ignore her when she gets a kleenex or paper, it doesn't matter. She just wants it to rip it up anyway. So I end up cleaning a whole floor full of ripped up paper.
I don't know what to do anymore

One thing that can make it easier is to buy a short handled rake, I find it makes cleaning up the paper so much easier then a broom (which makes it fly away) The rake I bought is meant for a small garden area-is has a 6 inch span at the rake end - a child's toy rake would work just as easy. I also use this to reach inside their playpens as opposed to climbing inside them.
My ujnderstanding is that they do not give up on the destructive "puppy play" until well after 2 years old. Chloe is 14 months and doesn't show any signs of not finding paper amusing

, Sissy on the other hand is only 5 months and she has just discovered this "play". My rake was well worth the $4. I paid for it

PS the rake works on my wood floors as well as my carpet areas

linz06 · 08-29-2006, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pattie

One thing that can make it easier is to buy a short handled rake, I find it makes cleaning up the paper so much easier then a broom (which makes it fly away) The rake I bought is meant for a small garden area-is has a 6 inch span at the rake end - a child's toy rake would work just as easy. I also use this to reach inside their playpens as opposed to climbing inside them.
My ujnderstanding is that they do not give up on the destructive "puppy play" until well after 2 years old. Chloe is 14 months and doesn't show any signs of not finding paper amusing

, Sissy on the other hand is only 5 months and she has just discovered this "play". My rake was well worth the $4. I paid for it

PS the rake works on my wood floors as well as my carpet areas

Thanks for the advice! I just usually picked most of the peices up by hand until i got time to vacuum. I'll look for a little rake next time I go shopping!

shirly29 · 08-29-2006, 04:24 PM

This is what I have done since my Harley was a baby and it works wonders for me. I have a whistle and everytime I blow it he gets a treat. I do this at least 10 times a day when he is not in the same room as me. now he is 4 mnts old and whenever he hears that whistle no matter where he is or what he is doing, he comes rip tearing to me for a treat. This has been a great tool for me to get him to come with no hassles or problems. Works EVERYTIME. Hopefully if you try it, this will work for you. Good luck with your puppy.

dcelmo · 08-29-2006, 04:37 PM

I agree with all the advice. Chewie does the same thing , but at 10 months, he has it all figured out. If he grabs something he shouldn't have it gets my attention and it is a game. The only thing that stops him is a treat and he knows it. He will go outside bring in a tree branch and drop it on the floor and look at me, "where's my treat?" I know that it is bad to reward bad behavior, but I don't have all day to chase a dog! As many of you know it is the nature of the Yorkie! They are just too smart and figure things out very quickly! Good luck and I hope you find something that works for you.

Pattie · 08-29-2006, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shirly29

This is what I have done since my Harley was a baby and it works wonders for me. I have a whistle and everytime I blow it he gets a treat. I do this at least 10 times a day when he is not in the same room as me. now he is 4 mnts old and whenever he hears that whistle no matter where he is or what he is doing, he comes rip tearing to me for a treat. This has been a great tool for me to get him to come with no hassles or problems. Works EVERYTIME. Hopefully if you try it, this will work for you. Good luck with your puppy.

ok you sold me.... I think for Sissy I will need this idea, Chloe was such a co-operative baby I didn't need to do anything. It made me feel like Chloe loved me and Sissy did not but I know Sissy is just independant. But she is also a piggy and loves little pieces of her treats... Great idea thank you

Pattie · 08-29-2006, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dcelmo

I agree with all the advice. Chewie does the same thing , but at 10 months, he has it all figured out. If he grabs something he shouldn't have it gets my attention and it is a game. The only thing that stops him is a treat and he knows it. He will go outside bring in a tree branch and drop it on the floor and look at me, "where's my treat?" I know that it is bad to reward bad behavior, but I don't have all day to chase a dog! As many of you know it is the nature of the Yorkie! They are just too smart and figure things out very quickly! Good luck and I hope you find something that works for you.

The treats I give mine are Pedigree training treats, they are small as they are and I can make 8 pieces out of them, I can not believe those itty bitty pieces can hurt and I agree, chaisng them all day is not good and time consuming. I like it when they listen even if it for a piece of treat which is smaller then half a pea!hat works for me too

shirly29 · 09-05-2006, 05:07 PM

I was just wondering if you tried the whistle idea and how it is working for you.

Pattie · 09-05-2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shirly29

I was just wondering if you tried the whistle idea and how it is working for you.

We did we did! ANd then when they responded, I gave them a little teeny piece of their treats. It works great.... thank you for the idea

It's strange how and why things work with our little ones. My friend came over and we sat in the yard having pizza. He was whistling as I showed him a diagram I made of the dog's new bed (I want him to build one for me to match) As he whistled (altho he was whsitling a song, not toot toot like I do with the whiste) they came a running, looking for a treat - he gave them a smidgeon of pizza. I didn;t like that but they did

(usually I do the no table food thing except for banana & nectarine & peaches)

Bnot · 09-11-2006, 09:32 AM

Wow, reading the replies, will help me. Venus will run from me, when its time to come inside! I will try the treat, to get her in also!

08-28-2006, 09:49 PM	#46
linz06 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,154	Layla does this too, she has since I can remember, and she's almost 11 months old now. I've tried teaching "drop it" with her toys for months but she just isn't getting it, she seems to only learn things (like sit, lay down) when i have the toy and she wants it. When she has something she shouldn't have, she either runs under the couch, or runs behind my drumset, and goes in between and around it if i try to reach at her. As soon as I say "treat" or she hears crumpling of the bag she'll drop it immediately and come to me. But if I move towards the thing she had before she gets a treat, or even after she gets it, she'll run back and grab it again. It seems like she's just doing it to get treats. I could ignore her but she loves underwear, and I have a male classmate living with me. That's just awkward. And if I ignore her when she gets a kleenex or paper, it doesn't matter. She just wants it to rip it up anyway. So I end up cleaning a whole floor full of ripped up paper. I don't know what to do anymore __________________ Lindsey and Layla, Lucy, and Kash

08-28-2006, 11:17 PM	#47
FirstYorkie YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: American in London Posts: 1,739	Lindsey, It would help if you could either keep treats on your person or else stashed in any room where she might go with forbidden item. Then, either say "treat" or let her see that you have one. As she's dropping the item, say "drop it". Then, roll the treats in the opposite direction so that she chases them and you can reach what you are trying to get. She will eventually learn what "drop it" means. It's important that you practice this many, many times with low value items like her toys. It's also important that you give back the item that she has as often as you can. You don't want "drop it" to always mean the end of her fun! In fact, your goal should be that you give back what she has in her mouth 90% of the time. That's alot of practice with lower value objects! __________________ FirstYorkie We Love Clicker-Training!

08-29-2006, 04:40 AM	#48
Brookef18 Donating YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cape Cod Ma Posts: 1,855	Teaching Drop it At Chewy's training class last night we learned drop it. I was told you have two toys that are the same... You throw one and when they get it you dangle the other one and say drop it. They want what ever you have so they drop the one and you give them the other... You can throw them and play fetch this way if your dog will do that. Any way they get the idea that you want them to drop the thing they have.... Chewy takes off when he has some thing (even a treat) the trainer said to reward with treats and hold him while he is eatting it to learn that he doesn't need to run. Also when you give some thing like a treat you bring your hand back so the dog needs to come into your space to get it. If you extend your arm to give something it encourages them to grab and run! hope this helps!

08-29-2006, 05:42 AM	#49
linz06 Donating YT 500 Club Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 3,154	Thanks FirstYorkie! I'm going to start that tonight. Hopefully this one works out! __________________ Lindsey and Layla, Lucy, and Kash

08-29-2006, 04:24 PM	#52
shirly29 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: carlisle Posts: 10	Try A whistle This is what I have done since my Harley was a baby and it works wonders for me. I have a whistle and everytime I blow it he gets a treat. I do this at least 10 times a day when he is not in the same room as me. now he is 4 mnts old and whenever he hears that whistle no matter where he is or what he is doing, he comes rip tearing to me for a treat. This has been a great tool for me to get him to come with no hassles or problems. Works EVERYTIME. Hopefully if you try it, this will work for you. Good luck with your puppy.

08-29-2006, 04:37 PM	#53
dcelmo Senior Yorkie Talker Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Victorville, CA Posts: 181	I agree with all the advice. Chewie does the same thing , but at 10 months, he has it all figured out. If he grabs something he shouldn't have it gets my attention and it is a game. The only thing that stops him is a treat and he knows it. He will go outside bring in a tree branch and drop it on the floor and look at me, "where's my treat?" I know that it is bad to reward bad behavior, but I don't have all day to chase a dog! As many of you know it is the nature of the Yorkie! They are just too smart and figure things out very quickly! Good luck and I hope you find something that works for you.

09-05-2006, 05:07 PM	#56
shirly29 Yorkie Talker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: carlisle Posts: 10	I was just wondering if you tried the whistle idea and how it is working for you.

09-11-2006, 09:32 AM	#58
Bnot YT 1000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mobile AL Posts: 1,399	Wow, reading the replies, will help me. Venus will run from me, when its time to come inside! I will try the treat, to get her in also!