Even bigger potty training issue?

[xoCourtney]

So now Miley understands "no" haha but the sad thing is she runs to her bed and lies there as if she's in trouble. Why does she do this? She started to poop on the carpet and I said "Miley, no! Go to your pad, potty." now she's sitting in her bed holding her poop

[Ldyrev1]

Ruh Roh! I can understand completely. What I learned from listening to others here on YT is that the pups respond so much better to positive reinforcement than they do to negative. For example instead of saying "no", just pick her up and put her on her potty pad and when she does her business, then give her lots of praise. Yippy!!! Praise her like crazy and she will get it!

I think when we criticize bad or negative behavior, they get confused and really aren't sure what the right thing to do is. By putting her on her potty pad and wildly praising her when she goes there, she associates your happiness with what she did right.

My DH was getting after our Princess Sophie about going poo on the carpet, every time she did it wrong, he got all mean looking and angry sounding. Then she began going in the hallway around the corner from the den. She was hiding it because she didn't understand what the right thing to do was. When I finally convinced him to try it my way, she came around really fast. She hasn't had an accident in the house for quite some time now.

Good luck!! Your pup will be on the right track soon with some positive reinforcement.

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by Ldyrev1

Ruh Roh! I can understand completely. What I learned from listening to others here on YT is that the pups respond so much better to positive reinforcement than they do to negative. For example instead of saying "no", just pick her up and put her on her potty pad and when she does her business, then give her lots of praise. Yippy!!! Praise her like crazy and she will get it!

I think when we criticize bad or negative behavior, they get confused and really aren't sure what the right thing to do is. By putting her on her potty pad and wildly praising her when she goes there, she associates your happiness with what she did right.

My DH was getting after our Princess Sophie about going poo on the carpet, every time she did it wrong, he got all mean looking and angry sounding. Then she began going in the hallway around the corner from the den. She was hiding it because she didn't understand what the right thing to do was. When I finally convinced him to try it my way, she came around really fast. She hasn't had an accident in the house for quite some time now.

Good luck!! Your pup will be on the right track soon with some positive reinforcement.

Okay! but usually by the time I get over there she get's up and runs away afraid. I don't understand why she's so afraid of me and then yesterday......I was doing laundry and she followed me to the laundry room and I went to pick her up and she ran away from me and I got really frustrated that she kept running from me and I ran after and and picked her up and she let out this big welp like she was dying or something I still have that sound stuck in my head. That was the most hurtful thing I probably ever dealt with. I don't understand why she hates me.

[kjc]

Yes, they get confused and start thinking that 'going potty' anywhere is a 'no' (the more sensitive pups anyway). Best to just ignore the mistakes and praise the heck out of the successes. She'll catch on bc she only wants to please you and make you happy!

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by kjc

Yes, they get confused and start thinking that 'going potty' anywhere is a 'no' (the more sensitive pups anyway). Best to just ignore the mistakes and praise the heck out of the successes. She'll catch on bc she only wants to please you and make you happy!

Okay I will try that! Half of the time she goes on her pad or in her crate (it also has a pad on the bottom of it).

[Deb1]

Praise, smile, happy voice, play & get excited when she goes on the potty pad! Clean up the accidents but don't shame her.

Tatiana was an easy one to train! She loves to be praised and looks to me for praise and that "Good Girl" phrase! Even when she is outside and I tell her to "potty" she will look at me while she goes and then comes running for some praise & play.

I suggest you spend lots of quality time playing and praising her to get her to trust you. She sounds like she is getting fearful of you getting upset with her. She will bond with you once she knows you won't get upset if she has an accident. Good Luck!

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by Deb1

Praise, smile, happy voice, play & get excited when she goes on the potty pad! Clean up the accidents but don't shame her.

Tatiana was an easy one to train! She loves to be praised and looks to me for praise and that "Good Girl" phrase! Even when she is outside and I tell her to "potty" she will look at me while she goes and then comes running for some praise & play.

I suggest you spend lots of quality time playing and praising her to get her to trust you. She sounds like she is getting fearful of you getting upset with her. She will bond with you once she knows you won't get upset if she has an accident. Good Luck!

Yeah not gonna lie its probably because one day she literally pee'd everywhere in my room BUT on the pad and I got really frustrated and put her in her playpen with a potty pad and water and her bed and a toy and said no potty miley! and i left her there until she pottied again which wasnt for like an hour. so she probably is terrified now so when she makes an accident should I just not say anything at all?

[kjc]

Originally Posted by xoCourtney

Yeah not gonna lie its probably because one day she literally pee'd everywhere in my room BUT on the pad and I got really frustrated and put her in her playpen with a potty pad and water and her bed and a toy and said no potty miley! and i left her there until she pottied again which wasnt for like an hour. so she probably is terrified now so when she makes an accident should I just not say anything at all?

Exactly! No mean face either! Just clean it up and move on. When she hits the mark, praise her and treat her like there's no tomorrow. Make it the best ever she's heard from you! Carry on ( I would have been embarrassed the first time I praised Sapphire if anyone had seen or heard me. She even looked at me weird for a minute!)

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by kjc

Exactly! No mean face either! Just clean it up and move on. When she hits the mark, praise her and treat her like there's no tomorrow. Make it the best ever she's heard from you! Carry on ( I would have been embarrassed the first time I praised Sapphire if anyone had seen or heard me. She even looked at me weird for a minute!)

okay and yes that's what I don't praise too over the top because it's embarrassing lol but if that's going to help her go then i'm all for it!

[yorkietalkjilly]

She sounds scared. Ease off on your tone of voice and become a matter-of-fact teacher. I use the world "uh oh" as I say that word differently than I do "no" in times of surprise or stress and I reserve "no" for use when a dog has long learned something, knows it well and is disobeying me.

[xoCourtney]

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

She sounds scared. Ease off on your tone of voice and become a matter-of-fact teacher. I use the world "uh oh" as I say that word differently than I do "no" in times of surprise or stress and I reserve "no" for use when a dog has long learned something, knows it well and is disobeying me.

okay I was told to give a firm "No!" and clap my hands once (I chose to snap my fingers because it wasn't as loud) but now I really do feel like she's terrified of me. She's become more comfortable with me since I laid off a little but not as comfortable as she could be.

[Maximo]

Originally Posted by Deb1

Praise, smile, happy voice, play & get excited when she goes on the potty pad! Clean up the accidents but don't shame her.

Tatiana was an easy one to train! She loves to be praised and looks to me for praise and that "Good Girl" phrase! Even when she is outside and I tell her to "potty" she will look at me while she goes and then comes running for some praise & play.

I suggest you spend lots of quality time playing and praising her to get her to trust you. She sounds like she is getting fearful of you getting upset with her. She will bond with you once she knows you won't get upset if she has an accident. Good Luck!

Originally Posted by yorkietalkjilly

She sounds scared. Ease off on your tone of voice and become a matter-of-fact teacher. I use the world "uh oh" as I say that word differently than I do "no" in times of surprise or stress and I reserve "no" for use when a dog has long learned something, knows it well and is disobeying me.

The bed is her safe place. That is why she is running to it.

[kjc]

Originally Posted by xoCourtney

okay I was told to give a firm "No!" and clap my hands once (I chose to snap my fingers because it wasn't as loud) but now I really do feel like she's terrified of me. She's become more comfortable with me since I laid off a little but not as comfortable as she could be.

She will forgive you. I would definitely not clap or snap fingers with her... she sounds very sensitive and those types of noises can instill fear in her. You may be able to work at desensitizing her to those sounds and especially begin to disassociate them with bad behavior down the road when she's older. Some dogs/pups can take it but some can't and they get scared and will begin to run and/or hide from their owner.

[yorkietalkjilly]

I don't clap and make noises like that when training a tiny Yorkie pup. I use positive reinforcement methods only. Aversives are usually frightening to small dogs.

[Ldyrev1]

Originally Posted by xoCourtney

Okay! but usually by the time I get over there she get's up and runs away afraid. I don't understand why she's so afraid of me and then yesterday......I was doing laundry and she followed me to the laundry room and I went to pick her up and she ran away from me and I got really frustrated that she kept running from me and I ran after and and picked her up and she let out this big welp like she was dying or something I still have that sound stuck in my head. That was the most hurtful thing I probably ever dealt with. I don't understand why she hates me.

Ok, I've had to deal with that too. Princess Sophie was running away from me all the time when I realized that every time I reached for her I was picking her up and she wasn't wanting to be picked up. It's taking a long time to get her out of that habit but she's coming around so a lot of times now, when I reach down to her, I just pet her back and tell her what a good girl she is.

As for her running away while you are trying to potty train her, it's really important to be consistent. Never scowl or give her a mean expression when she makes a mistake. Gently pick her up (and yes you may have to go get her if she has run away), make no negative remarks like "bad girl" or "bad potty", and gently take her to the pad and if she has already had an accident on the floor/carpet/whatever, tell her "good potty" while she is on the pad.

Something you also need to do, and I forgot about this before, but you need to figure out when she normally goes potty. If you watch her closely for a few days, you will begin to notice that after X number of minutes after eating or drinking she needs to potty. When you get her regular schedule figured out you can then be sure to take her outside or to her potty pad and she will come around. The key though, again, is be consistent. When we were first potty training Princess Sophie, the entire bottom of her play pen was covered with potty pads and in the morning, she stayed there till she potted. Then I knew for a while at least she could have some free time. Restricting their area of activity is a big part of all of this. We now know that about 25 minutes after supper, she needs to go potty and so, we avoid accidents!

I sure hope this helps and I am very sorry for the wordy post. Again, good luck and keep us posted.