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Old 04-13-2012, 01:04 PM   #1
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Joel is just figuring out how to run out the door, so I was wondering whats a good way to teach him not to. I dont want to make him stay away from the door because he goes there to tell me potty.
I'm still working on "come". I keep treats with me and all day and keep calling him and giving him treats, and earlier he ran outside and had that "Im out here, and you cant get me" look, so I was scared he was gonna take off if I went after him, so I called him in and he came right away, and I gave him treats.
I was so happy teaching him to come actually worked for something important. But I dont know how to teach him to not run out in the first place.
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Teaching "stay" is key. Victoria Stilwell had a show where she taught the dogs to sit and stay on a little rug by the door.

While I believe training is of the utmost importance, I also had to put a gate up to keep my boys from the door. The other human in my house failed to give the stay command when opening the door and Teddy bolted out and chased the UPS truck. Luckily I was returning home and saw it happen. I called Teddy to me and he came. All it takes is one failure for tragedy to happen, so I put up the gate.
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Im not having luck with teaching stay, he wont even laydown on command without me putting the treat down where he lays. But I should try the rug idea, and just practice it alot. And it doesnt help that the huamans here dont help, lol. One minute there annoyed that he doesnt listen to them and the next minute they say they dont think they should or need to teach him stuff, and you cant have it both ways,and why is it that when he doesnt listen he's all the sudden "my" dog,lol. if you want him to listen to you, you'll have to help. Sorry for the rant.

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My dog is my first dog...... so you will get better advice from others, I'm sure. Don't over-do the training - start with one task, get it down pat and then move to the next task, still incorporate the first "skill" rewarded with a treat. Brutus never responded to the come command, but he now comes when we clap? I have idea how that happened, but once he did it once and was rewarded with HEAVY praise and a treat - that was it. I think these little guys want approval and thrive off of it. In the beginning I thought the alpha male theory was bogus - but it's not! Brutus has to sit or down before he gets fed, or before I will greet him when I come home. I love the little guy, but I am the boss and I think they react better to consistant reactions from us (moms and dads). Kinda like training a skin kid. Good Luck
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Thanks for the advice, I got him taught to sit before everything, that was the first thing he learned, and he's doing pretty good with come, now I need to work on stay.
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How to Stop Bolting out the door

This is basically what we teach in puppy class. We call it Greeting. We encourage active learning. In other words get friends and family to help with the exercise lesson. It takes some effort to set this up but it is so worth it. Open your door to measure where it comes into the room. Make that your NO
DOG Boundary you may mark this area off with a rug, a line of masking tape or what ever is handy and works. The idea is to give your dog a visual and verbal clue. He/ she must sit and stay behind the NO DOG Boundary. Hang a leash on the door knob, so it is always there when you need it. Have your helper knock, or ring the bell three times. If your dog is barking more than three times to alert you, give the Enough cue . For them to stop barking. Don't rush to the door walk calmly. Puppy should be on leash. Chose a word you intended to use forever and every time, we use WAIT. (we also use Wait at curbs before crossing the street) When you get to the boundary, have the dog Sit. Now put your hand up like you are blocking traffic and say WAIT. At first you may have to keep facing the dog and back up to the door. Early on it is ok to repeat Wait and give the hand signal. Open the door a crack, if they bolt foreword, close the door. Walk them back to the Sit and Wait Spot. Give the cue Sit, Wait. Repeat this Greeting Exercise at least 10 times. Ideally it is most effective when repeated randomly over the period of two or three days. It may take about 50 repetitions

for the cues to be understood and obeyed.
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Definitely put gates up at every door before there is an accident! I have gates at two of my doors...the other one goes out to a fenced in yard so I don't worry about it.
Dream baby makes some really nice gates!
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Okay, It took me 10 minutes to teach him to go and stay away from the door when I tell him.
The area I dont want him in is the foyer or whatever thats called where the door is,lol so thats where the "line" where he's not aloud to be when the door is opened.
All I did was I would open the door and pretend to greet someone and when he would come to the door I said "someones here, go" and once he passed the line I would put him in his "timeout" and I only had to do it 2 times until he would run in the living room when I said go.
And I even made it harder and had my sister go out and knock, and shes his second favorite person,lol and she knocked and I said "aunties here, go" and he didnt even come by the door!
So the real test will be when the daycare kids come, but I think he'll be good.
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Im not having luck with teaching stay, he wont even laydown on command without me putting the treat down where he lays. But I should try the rug idea, and just practice it alot. And it doesnt help that the huamans here dont help, lol. One minute there annoyed that he doesnt listen to them and the next minute they say they dont think they should or need to teach him stuff, and you cant have it both ways,and why is it that when he doesnt listen he's all the sudden "my" dog,lol. if you want him to listen to you, you'll have to help. Sorry for the rant.
We have the same issues here, with the dogs and the humans.
I have the same problem with the dogs thinking that every time the door opens that it is time to go. Go where Idk, because they never use that door. We have a garage door leading right out to the dog run that they use for potty time. I have been working with them for the past 18mos or so useing the "rug" idea. But instead it is where the carpet and wood sepreate. They must be on the carpet away from the door before we open it. We've made some progress but it's not 100% yet. Now if I can only get them to shut the H*LL up when someone comes to the door, I would be a happy camper!

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Okay, It took me 10 minutes to teach him to go and stay away from the door when I tell him.
The area I dont want him in is the foyer or whatever thats called where the door is,lol so thats where the "line" where he's not aloud to be when the door is opened.

All I did was I would open the door and pretend to greet someone and when he would come to the door I said "someones here, go" and once he passed the line I would put him in his "timeout" and I only had to do it 2 times until he would run in the living room when I said go.

And I even made it harder and had my sister go out and knock, and shes his second favorite person,lol and she knocked and I said "aunties here, go" and he didnt even come by the door!

So the real test will be when the daycare kids come, but I think he'll be good.
Only 2 times and he got it already. Nice job.....
I wish mine were that easy to train, but I do have four to deal with, Big difference.
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Yea, its easier with one, but Rosco does bark at the door but hes not much of a problem and hes old so hes aloud to do whatever he wants lol, its so hard for me to get mad at Rosco. But I want Joel to learn he has to stay away from the door no matter what Rosco does.
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Teaching "stay" is key. Victoria Stilwell had a show where she taught the dogs to sit and stay on a little rug by the door.

While I believe training is of the utmost importance, I also had to put a gate up to keep my boys from the door. The other human in my house failed to give the stay command when opening the door and Teddy bolted out and chased the UPS truck. Luckily I was returning home and saw it happen. I called Teddy to me and he came. All it takes is one failure for tragedy to happen, so I put up the gate.
OMG!!! this is soooooo correct!!! Just one little slip up and it is all over but the crying......I think it is wonderful when you can see your dog bolting out a door, and you can holler, "STOP" or "STAY" or "SIT", or "BACK" and they stop dead in mid stride and come running right back to your side... what a testament ot an outstanding job of training!!! But, I just do not trust it....to me, that is a tragedy just looking for someplace to happen. So, the inside of my "House Beautiful" is fenced and cross fenced, with every door that exits the house, blocked from access by any adverturesome Yorkie-kid! I have double French doors that open out onto my private court yard from the Master Bedroom......I have an ex-pen stretched out in front of them so if another human "forgets" and opens those doors and leaves them ajar for even a minute, no one runs out, unnoticed, and then falls into the pond or gets carried off by a hawk. A/C men, pest control man, contractors (I am STILL fixing up following Ike from 2 years ago!!)....they are BAD about coming and going and leaving doors ajar.....MY BIGGEST NIGHTMARE!!!!
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