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Old 07-25-2011, 04:10 AM   #46
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Wow wish I never read this. No animal deserves to be hit or human till they bruise. This little guy has to be so confused and scared. My hope is if she is this short tempered she is not hitting you also.

I am sorry but I believe this little guy needs to find a loving home he deserves this after this kind of treatment. I know you love him and would hate to see him go. But if she has threatened to kill him. Which I am sure she could accidentally do. Not to mention the internal damage that could being done and not even know it.

I pray this little guy will be okay. And I pray she is not beating you
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That is so sad....Please crate as punishment. They do not train the same way that humans do... and I don't even really like spanking for humans. You only send mixed messages and confuse the dog- creating more mishaps and more accidents.

If nothing else can you take the dog in yourself?? Or do you live there as well?
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That is so sad....Please crate as punishment. ?
I'm sorry but I disagree with this as well. Crating is not punishment. A crate should be a safe place for the dog to go and should never be used as a punishment too.
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you could tell your Mum that it is worth getting her dog checked for a UTI, and not wait til there are bigger problems.
If left, an infection can cause bladder stones, and that will then need some serious money spending at the vets...either for an operation or some special food to get rid of the stones.
You story is very disturbing, and i'm sorry, but your Mum is a big bully.
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If the dog doesn't generally lose bladder control like that, it could be an infection. My mother's Pom did that and he either had an ear infection or something of the sort. It doesn't seem connected, but he'd lose control when he had an infection.

However, if it's just that he still isn't totally housebroken, I would probably invest in some belly bands if nothing else just to prevent him from getting hurt. You need to explain to your mom that he is of such a small size that she is really hurting him. She should know if you'd seen bruises!

It wouldn't hurt to take him to the veterinarian and get him checked out. That's what I would suggest ... That and the belly bands. See if you can get him to go outside and leave the belly bands on when he's inside, ... At least until you're confident enough to try and work on it inside the house. I would suggest working on it when your mother is not around. Maybe invest in some good pet mess cleaner (I use Fizzion for odors, and I really like Petzorb for pee -- the crystals absorb the moisture from the carpet and you can vacuum or scoop it up) ... Hopefully that would give your mom a little more peace of mind about the little man making messes.

I hope that helps!
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I'm sorry but I disagree with this as well. Crating is not punishment. A crate should be a safe place for the dog to go and should never be used as a punishment too.

Understandable. I mean in the sense of Time out - its arguably better then hitting though if that's her mothers tendency. But I do see where you are coming from.
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I woke up several times last night worrying about this situation. Although I was convinced that it was not written by a young child, I was still concerned that the violence could get worse, if this was a real situation. I prayed for Dani, her mother and the doggies.
Like the rest of you, this makes me sad and sick at heart. The YT people are wonderfully supportive, and I am proud to be a part of this community.
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I am just sick after reading what has happened to this poor little defenseless dog. There is no excuse to ever beat anyone or anything into submission. Why did I even open this thread to read this horror story

I'd bet my life the dog has a UTI and just cannot control his bladder. Dogs to do ever pee out of spite no matter what your mother might think. Are there other signs that he might be sick? A UTI is very painful and he might shake or squat repeatedly trying to release his bladder.

As for your mother beating him into defecating, I am almost in tears even thinking about the fear she must have cause him and her rage issues. I have never read on this board of such an abusive situation between an owner and their pet. I fear for anyone that comes into contact with her and for your safety as well. You last post has further raised my concern when you say

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Once again, I tried talking to my mom today about not spanking at the store, and she didn't listen to me. But I will be keeping an eye on her and the dog. Next time she starts spanking the dog too hard, I will try and stop her, even if she does something to me.
Spanking is a swat on the bottom. What you described is a violent beating and abuse. i have three children and three dogs and have never raised my hand in anger to any of them. I just cannot imagine living in your world that is filled with such violence.
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Sorry I missed this post where you explained how you have already attempted once to show your Mom a training manual and that approach didn't work. Also she feels that you are "just a gullible kid".

I am also concerned about a later post where you are worried about interferring with this "punishment of Luke" should she ever do again what you have already witnessed once.

To this I say to you: Do Not Interfere if there is concern for your safety. Quietly walk away go to the phone and dial your local animal control, or here we call it SPCA - society for prevention of cruelty to animals. In fact there maybe a website that they run which may guide you even further on what to do in this situation

Another tactic you might employ is phone and ask to speak with your regular vet. Speak to him/her about the situation and ask for their advice. It would be timely if Luke is due for his annual exam, and the vet can call your Mom, to set up the same.

Yet another idea is to watch with your MOM one of the televised dog training shows, Caesar Milan, At the end of my Leash, etc.

Know this you are certainly not gullible at all about dog training, but have a kind heart, and a desire to do what is right for Luke.

Is there anyone else in your family that might be able to talk to your Mom? An older sister, brother, aunt, uncle, good adult friend?

If you ever need more help just post on this thread, or private message (pm) one of the responders here.
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I was hoping this was a hoax but fear it is not.

I don't want to presume but it sounds like your mother is very abusive and I fear for Luke and for you. If your mother is treating you in any way like you describe her treatment of Luke, she is wrong. It is not OK for her to hit!! It is not OK for her to cause fear- for Luke or for you. If you are in fear or in danger in her house, you can get help. You can reach out and tell a teacher or other trusted adult in your life. You can call the CPS hotline wherever you are in CA.

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I hope you will do what you can to protect Luke from this terrible abuse and also yourself if necessary.
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"To this I say to you: Do Not Interfere if there is concern for your safety. Quietly walk away go to the phone and dial your local animal control," I'm not allowed to call animal control.

I confronted my mom last night and told her that I would call animal control if she beat Luke too hard again. She got angry, and told me I would get in trouble. I told her if she does anything to me, I'll call my dad. She got mad at me, and said if I ever talk like her to that again, more trouble.

I don't think I'm in real danger. She has made empty threats to me before, like I said, the dogs are my priority.

And about Luke, he's fine today. Yesterday, too, he was playing around and running outside. He seems to be urinating normally, so maybe he doesn't have a UTI after all.
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I don't want to presume but it sounds like your mother is very abusive and I fear for Luke and for you.
These are my fears as well. I hope this is a hoax, however if it is not...

This situation should be addressed by another adult and not a child of the abuser whether he/she is a small child, teenager, or a young adult especially if that person remains in the immediate care of the abuser. It is not your responsibility to stop your mother as much as you (and we all) want to help your dog. You can place an anonymous call to both child protective services and/or the local humane society... or simply dial 911 if you are in immediate fear of your life. Remember also that as much as you may feel alone, there are people out there who are not only willing but WANT TO HELP! It may take a call of this nature to ensure someone knows of your situation. Please don't assume someone really knows what is going on.
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This poor little dog should be rehomed and given a chance at a real life with love and joy throughout the day. No dog should live like this. I could not read this thread until now and am sorry that I did but OP was brave to post it. Now be brave and convince your mom she and the dog will be way better off in separate homes. You are this dog's last chance at a real life.
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"To this I say to you: Do Not Interfere if there is concern for your safety. Quietly walk away go to the phone and dial your local animal control," I'm not allowed to call animal control.

I confronted my mom last night and told her that I would call animal control if she beat Luke too hard again. She got angry, and told me I would get in trouble. I told her if she does anything to me, I'll call my dad. She got mad at me, and said if I ever talk like her to that again, more trouble.

I don't think I'm in real danger. She has made empty threats to me before, like I said, the dogs are my priority.

And about Luke, he's fine today. Yesterday, too, he was playing around and running outside. He seems to be urinating normally, so maybe he doesn't have a UTI after all.
Good luck You're such a good writer. Maybe write your Mom a letter and tell her how you feel and how you need her help to solve your pup's problems. Keep it non-confrontational.
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"To this I say to you: Do Not Interfere if there is concern for your safety. Quietly walk away go to the phone and dial your local animal control," I'm not allowed to call animal control.

I confronted my mom last night and told her that I would call animal control if she beat Luke too hard again. She got angry, and told me I would get in trouble. I told her if she does anything to me, I'll call my dad. She got mad at me, and said if I ever talk like her to that again, more trouble.

I don't think I'm in real danger. She has made empty threats to me before, like I said, the dogs are my priority.

And about Luke, he's fine today. Yesterday, too, he was playing around and running outside. He seems to be urinating normally, so maybe he doesn't have a UTI after all.
Are you close to your dad? Does he know how your mother can be at times? Could you stay w him if things got worse at your house?

I would not talk about calling anyone to your mom again. You can always come on here and tell somebody. We could call someone to help Luke or you if either one of you needed something or someone. Capt. Noonie offered to help if you needed, and she is in Ca. You could always private message her.

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